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tkernUser is Offline

Posts:6

10/07/2005 8:31 AM  
thanks
darren.marelia@xxxx.yyy

10/07/2005 8:45 AM  
If the MSI product code for that app is not the same
between the GP-deployed package and the Tivoli one, then I believe it will try
to uninstall/reinstall the app to bring it under GP management. At least, the
last time I tried it that was the behavior I saw. If these are XP machines, you
could use a WMI filter to exclude machines where the app is already installed
(see Alain's earlier post on checking WMI for MSI installed
apps).
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tom
KernSent: Friday, October 07, 2005 12:30 PMTo:
activedirectorySubject: [ActiveDir] software deployment via
GPO

quick question-
if i already installed an msi based app via some other means(like
Tivoli) and then i want to redploy this app via a computer node gpo in AD
for any pc's which still didn't get it via the other means, will the pc's that
already have it try to install it again?

thanks
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10/07/2005 8:59 AM  
If you try to install an msi app silently
and it is already installed, it silently aborts “ no repair, no
reinstall, no uninstall.



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Platform Development
Applebee's International,
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913-967-2819
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that which I can not do, in order that I may learn how to do it." - Pablo
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Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005
2:30 PM
To: activedirectory
Subject: [ActiveDir] software
deployment via GPO



quick question-

if i already installed an msi based app via some other means(like
Tivoli) and then i want to redploy this app via a computer node gpo in AD
for any pc's which still didn't get it via the other means, will the pc's that
already have it try to install it again?



thanks



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10/07/2005 9:11 AM  
It should.. they would try and re-install
if you assigned the app to a computer. If you publish to a user or group of
users though, your users may be able to avoid the re-install by selecting the
app if they still needed it. Or ask you users to respond to an email if they don™t
have the app and either target their specific systems or them as a group of
users.



Regards,





Ken Jensen
Capistrano Unified School
District
San Juan Capistrano, California
The early bird may get the worm
but its the second mouse that gets the cheese...

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Sent: Friday, October
07, 2005 12:30 PM
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Subject: [ActiveDir] software
deployment via GPO



quick question-

if i already installed an msi based app via some other
means(like Tivoli) and then i want to redploy this app via a computer node
gpo in AD for any pc's which still didn't get it via the other means, will the
pc's that already have it try to install it again?



thanks



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10/07/2005 9:11 AM  
If the MSI product code for that app is not the same between the GP-deployed package and the Tivoli one, then I believe it will try to uninstall/reinstall the app to bring it under GP management. At least, the last time I tried it that was the behavior I saw. If these are XP machines, you could use a WMI filter to exclude machines where the app is already installed (see Alain's earlier post on checking WMI for MSI installed apps).

From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tom KernSent: Friday, October 07, 2005 12:30 PMTo: activedirectorySubject: [ActiveDir] software deployment via GPO

quick question-
if i already installed an msi based app via some other means(like Tivoli) and then i want to redploy this app via a computer node gpo in AD for any pc's which still didn't get it via the other means, will the pc's that already have it try to install it again?


thanks
milburnrUser is Offline

Posts:0

10/07/2005 9:14 AM  
I was assuming an identical msi in both
cases and installing with /i, it should silently abort.  If the msi has changed
(i.e. been repackaged/rebuilt) there are other possibilities.  If the package
code is the same and you run it interactively, you should get the uninstall
reinstall repair dialog.  If you want to uninstall silently you have to specify
/x.



---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Rich Milburn
MCSE, Microsoft MVP -
Directory Services
Sr Network Analyst, Field
Platform Development
Applebee's International,
Inc.
4551 W. 107th St
Overland Park, KS 66207
913-967-2819
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
"I am always doing
that which I can not do, in order that I may learn how to do it." - Pablo
Picasso

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[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005
3:41 PM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] software
deployment via GPO



If the MSI product code for that app is
not the same between the GP-deployed package and the Tivoli one, then I believe it will try to
uninstall/reinstall the app to bring it under GP management. At least, the last
time I tried it that was the behavior I saw. If these are XP machines, you
could use a WMI filter to exclude machines where the app is already installed
(see Alain's earlier post on checking WMI for MSI installed apps).





From:
ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tom Kern
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005
12:30 PM
To: activedirectory
Subject: [ActiveDir] software
deployment via GPO

quick question-

if i already installed an msi based app via some other means(like
Tivoli) and then i want to redploy this app via a computer node gpo in AD
for any pc's which still didn't get it via the other means, will the pc's that
already have it try to install it again?



thanks



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bdesmondUser is Offline

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10/07/2005 9:23 AM  
If its the same MSI, they
shouldn't. In reality, sometimes they do

Thanks,Brian Desmond
brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

c -
312.731.3132



From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tom
KernSent: Friday, October 07, 2005 3:30 PMTo:
activedirectorySubject: [ActiveDir] software deployment via
GPO

quick question-
if i already installed an msi based app via some other means(like
Tivoli) and then i want to redploy this app via a computer node gpo in AD
for any pc's which still didn't get it via the other means, will the pc's that
already have it try to install it again?

thanks
dejiUser is Offline

Posts:150

10/07/2005 10:08 AM  
I can not confirm with GPO. But if using SMS, the app will not be reinstalled
IF the msi package is the same. Unless you specifically ask it to reinstall.
I imagine the behavior will be the same via GPO.


Sincerely,

Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCP+I
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
www.readymaids.com - we know IT
www.akomolafe.com
Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about
Yesterday? -anon

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From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Tom Kern
Sent: Fri 10/7/2005 12:29 PM
To: activedirectory
Subject: [ActiveDir] software deployment via GPO
quick question-
if i already installed an msi based app via some other means(like Tivoli) and
then i want to redploy this app via a computer node gpo in AD for any pc's
which still didn't get it via the other means, will the pc's that already
have it try to install it again?

thanks
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