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james
Posts:0
 | | 09/29/2007 7:13 AM |
| Would be interested in hearing about the experiences of large enterprises
who previously had a non-routable Active Directory domain and how they may
have renamed them. Not interested in how so much as I am interested in
who...
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| josemedeiros007
Posts:2
| | 09/30/2007 2:38 AM |
| Hi James,
>From my experience, I only renamed a domain called Aeronet and Mirapoint but
it was on NT4 which required starting with the PDC then BDC's , then
removing all the servers and workstations from the domain and re-adding them
with the new domain name.
I haven't had the need yet to rename a 2003 AD domain, but I would probably
think that it's probably better to just build a new Forrest and Migrate to
it using the ADMT?
Any one else care to comment?
Jose Medeiros
www.myspace.com/josemedeiros1
----- Original Message -----
From: "James McGovern"
To:
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 4:13 AM
Subject: [ActiveDir] Renaming Domains
> Would be interested in hearing about the experiences of large enterprises
> who previously had a non-routable Active Directory domain and how they may
> have renamed them. Not interested in how so much as I am interested in
> who...
>
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| ZJORZ
Posts:131
| | 09/30/2007 9:52 AM |
| migration or renames...both can take a crap load of work to accomplish...both are considered changes and because of that risks are involved and it is important to mitigate risks when doing changes. it may also depend on the size of the environment what you can/will chosse and if you have a backout plan or not for each step taken
* migration allows for a phased approach... step-by-step you accomplish your task
* domain rename...it is an all or nothing approach and it impacts all the DCs in the forest no matter what domain they are in
also see:
http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/archive/2005/11/24/154.aspx
http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/archive/2006/05/24/1037.aspx
http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/archive/2006/07/21/additional-information-about-domain-renames.aspx
Met vriendelijke groeten / Kind regards,
Ing. Jorge de Almeida Pinto
Senior Infrastructure Consultant
MVP Windows Server - Directory Services
LogicaCMG Nederland B.V. (BU ISA Eindhoven)
( Tel : +31-(0)40-29.57.777
( Mobile : +31-(0)6-26.26.62.80
* E-mail :
________________________________
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org on behalf of Jose Medeiros
Sent: Sun 2007-09-30 08:38
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Cc: james@architectbook.com
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Renaming Domains
Hi James,
>From my experience, I only renamed a domain called Aeronet and Mirapoint but
it was on NT4 which required starting with the PDC then BDC's , then
removing all the servers and workstations from the domain and re-adding them
with the new domain name.
I haven't had the need yet to rename a 2003 AD domain, but I would probably
think that it's probably better to just build a new Forrest and Migrate to
it using the ADMT?
Any one else care to comment?
Jose Medeiros
www.myspace.com/josemedeiros1
----- Original Message -----
From: "James McGovern"
To:
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 4:13 AM
Subject: [ActiveDir] Renaming Domains
> Would be interested in hearing about the experiences of large enterprises
> who previously had a non-routable Active Directory domain and how they may
> have renamed them. Not interested in how so much as I am interested in
> who...
>
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> List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx
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| josemedeiros007
Posts:2
| | 10/01/2007 1:29 AM |
| Hi Jorge,
I agree with you, a rename should probably be only done on a very small
domain. On larger domains / forrests a Migration is the best choice due to
time constraints and the resources required.
Jose
----- Original Message -----
From: "Almeida Pinto, Jorge de"
To:
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 6:52 AM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Renaming Domains
migration or renames...both can take a crap load of work to
accomplish...both are considered changes and because of that risks are
involved and it is important to mitigate risks when doing changes. it may
also depend on the size of the environment what you can/will chosse and if
you have a backout plan or not for each step taken
* migration allows for a phased approach... step-by-step you accomplish your
task
* domain rename...it is an all or nothing approach and it impacts all the
DCs in the forest no matter what domain they are in
also see:
http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/archive/2005/11/24/154.aspx
http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/archive/2006/05/24/1037.aspx
http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/archive/2006/07/21/additional-information-about-domain-renames.aspx
Met vriendelijke groeten / Kind regards,
Ing. Jorge de Almeida Pinto
Senior Infrastructure Consultant
MVP Windows Server - Directory Services
LogicaCMG Nederland B.V. (BU ISA Eindhoven)
( Tel : +31-(0)40-29.57.777
( Mobile : +31-(0)6-26.26.62.80
* E-mail :
________________________________
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org on behalf of Jose Medeiros
Sent: Sun 2007-09-30 08:38
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Cc: james@architectbook.com
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Renaming Domains
Hi James,
>From my experience, I only renamed a domain called Aeronet and Mirapoint
>but
it was on NT4 which required starting with the PDC then BDC's , then
removing all the servers and workstations from the domain and re-adding them
with the new domain name.
I haven't had the need yet to rename a 2003 AD domain, but I would probably
think that it's probably better to just build a new Forrest and Migrate to
it using the ADMT?
Any one else care to comment?
Jose Medeiros
www.myspace.com/josemedeiros1
----- Original Message -----
From: "James McGovern"
To:
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 4:13 AM
Subject: [ActiveDir] Renaming Domains
> Would be interested in hearing about the experiences of large enterprises
> who previously had a non-routable Active Directory domain and how they may
> have renamed them. Not interested in how so much as I am interested in
> who...
>
> List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
> List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx
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| james
Posts:0
| | 10/08/2007 10:20 AM |
| Actually interested more in the WHO vs the HOW.
-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org]On Behalf Of Jose Medeiros
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 1:30 AM
To: Almeida Pinto, Jorge de; ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Renaming Domains
Hi Jorge,
I agree with you, a rename should probably be only done on a very small
domain. On larger domains / forrests a Migration is the best choice due to
time constraints and the resources required.
Jose
----- Original Message -----
From: "Almeida Pinto, Jorge de"
To:
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 6:52 AM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Renaming Domains
migration or renames...both can take a crap load of work to
accomplish...both are considered changes and because of that risks are
involved and it is important to mitigate risks when doing changes. it may
also depend on the size of the environment what you can/will chosse and if
you have a backout plan or not for each step taken
* migration allows for a phased approach... step-by-step you accomplish your
task
* domain rename...it is an all or nothing approach and it impacts all the
DCs in the forest no matter what domain they are in
also see:
http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/archive/2005/11/24/154.aspx
http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/archive/2006/05/24/1037.aspx
http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/archive/2006/07/21/additional-informati
on-about-domain-renames.aspx
Met vriendelijke groeten / Kind regards,
Ing. Jorge de Almeida Pinto
Senior Infrastructure Consultant
MVP Windows Server - Directory Services
LogicaCMG Nederland B.V. (BU ISA Eindhoven)
( Tel : +31-(0)40-29.57.777
( Mobile : +31-(0)6-26.26.62.80
* E-mail :
________________________________
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org on behalf of Jose Medeiros
Sent: Sun 2007-09-30 08:38
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Cc: james@architectbook.com
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Renaming Domains
Hi James,
>From my experience, I only renamed a domain called Aeronet and Mirapoint
>but
it was on NT4 which required starting with the PDC then BDC's , then
removing all the servers and workstations from the domain and re-adding them
with the new domain name.
I haven't had the need yet to rename a 2003 AD domain, but I would probably
think that it's probably better to just build a new Forrest and Migrate to
it using the ADMT?
Any one else care to comment?
Jose Medeiros
www.myspace.com/josemedeiros1
----- Original Message -----
From: "James McGovern"
To:
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 4:13 AM
Subject: [ActiveDir] Renaming Domains
> Would be interested in hearing about the experiences of large enterprises
> who previously had a non-routable Active Directory domain and how they may
> have renamed them. Not interested in how so much as I am interested in
> who...
>
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> List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx
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| sbradcpa
Posts:351
| | 10/08/2007 11:07 AM |
| Not too small though .. not recommended (nor supported) to rename an
ADdomain on SBS. The internal domain naming is irrelevant and only
political in most cases anyway ...rename the exchange email domain
"branding" ...but not the AD domain.
While Exchange can make the AD domain rename journey these days
...sharepoint HATES it.
James McGovern wrote:
> Actually interested more in the WHO vs the HOW.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org]On Behalf Of Jose Medeiros
> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 1:30 AM
> To: Almeida Pinto, Jorge de; ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Renaming Domains
>
>
> Hi Jorge,
>
> I agree with you, a rename should probably be only done on a very small
> domain. On larger domains / forrests a Migration is the best choice due to
> time constraints and the resources required.
>
> Jose
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Almeida Pinto, Jorge de"
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 6:52 AM
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Renaming Domains
>
>
> migration or renames...both can take a crap load of work to
> accomplish...both are considered changes and because of that risks are
> involved and it is important to mitigate risks when doing changes. it may
> also depend on the size of the environment what you can/will chosse and if
> you have a backout plan or not for each step taken
>
> * migration allows for a phased approach... step-by-step you accomplish your
> task
> * domain rename...it is an all or nothing approach and it impacts all the
> DCs in the forest no matter what domain they are in
>
> also see:
> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/archive/2005/11/24/154.aspx
> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/archive/2006/05/24/1037.aspx
> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/archive/2006/07/21/additional-informati
> on-about-domain-renames.aspx
>
> Met vriendelijke groeten / Kind regards,
> Ing. Jorge de Almeida Pinto
> Senior Infrastructure Consultant
> MVP Windows Server - Directory Services
>
> LogicaCMG Nederland B.V. (BU ISA Eindhoven)
> ( Tel : +31-(0)40-29.57.777
> ( Mobile : +31-(0)6-26.26.62.80
> * E-mail :
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org on behalf of Jose Medeiros
> Sent: Sun 2007-09-30 08:38
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Cc: james@architectbook.com
> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Renaming Domains
>
>
>
> Hi James,
>
> >From my experience, I only renamed a domain called Aeronet and Mirapoint
>
>> but
>>
> it was on NT4 which required starting with the PDC then BDC's , then
> removing all the servers and workstations from the domain and re-adding them
> with the new domain name.
>
> I haven't had the need yet to rename a 2003 AD domain, but I would probably
> think that it's probably better to just build a new Forrest and Migrate to
> it using the ADMT?
>
> Any one else care to comment?
>
> Jose Medeiros
> www.myspace.com/josemedeiros1
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James McGovern"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 4:13 AM
> Subject: [ActiveDir] Renaming Domains
>
>
>
>> Would be interested in hearing about the experiences of large enterprises
>> who previously had a non-routable Active Directory domain and how they may
>> have renamed them. Not interested in how so much as I am interested in
>> who...
>>
>> List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
>> List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx
>> List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx
>>
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>
>
>
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