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neiger@xxxx.yyy

11/21/2005 7:20 AM  
Hi “



Has
anyone had good or bad experiences with Enterasys networking equipment? We are
planning to go with Cisco, but some Enterasys sales folks promise twice the
performance at half the price. (ok, maybe not quite that good but¦.)



Any
thoughts?



Thanks.



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11/21/2005 7:31 AM  
What are you looking at using them for? I've used their
outdoors wireless solutions for shots of a couple miles between buildings with
very good success.
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Noah
EigerSent: Monday, November 21, 2005 1:17 PMTo:
ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [ActiveDir] OT: Enterasys vs
Cisco
Hi


Has
anyone had good or bad experiences with Enterasys networking equipment? We are
planning to go with Cisco, but some Enterasys sales folks promise twice the
performance at half the price. (ok, maybe not quite that good
but¦.)

Any
thoughts?

Thanks.

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neiger@xxxx.yyy

11/21/2005 7:38 AM  
The whole thing: routers, switches, wireless APs, and they
apparently have branched out in Jaccuzis so we are considering that as well ;-)



From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderkooi@xxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005
11:29 AM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:
Enterasys vs Cisco



What are you looking at using them for? I've used their
outdoors wireless solutions for shots of a couple miles between buildings with
very good success.





From:
ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Noah Eiger
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005
1:17 PM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Enterasys
vs Cisco

Hi “



Has
anyone had good or bad experiences with Enterasys networking equipment? We are
planning to go with Cisco, but some Enterasys sales folks promise twice the
performance at half the price. (ok, maybe not quite that good but¦.)



Any thoughts?



Thanks.



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11/21/2005 11:51 AM  
I've got a bunch of their Matrix C2 switches, and they're
working pretty well.  The config commands are easier than Cisco to achieve
comparable settings, and the default QOS settings work perfectly with our
VOIP.  I plan to add more of them next year; they're a good value for the
money.

HTH
Derek
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Noah
EigerSent: Monday, November 21, 2005 12:17 PMTo:
ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [ActiveDir] OT: Enterasys vs
Cisco
Hi


Has
anyone had good or bad experiences with Enterasys networking equipment? We are
planning to go with Cisco, but some Enterasys sales folks promise twice the
performance at half the price. (ok, maybe not quite that good
but¦.)

Any
thoughts?

Thanks.

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Posts:416

11/22/2005 3:52 AM  
The VPNs are the only thing that is heavy duty here. That™s a significant
amount of encryption. The gige is a pretty standard piece these days.



I can recommend Cisco gear, but it looks like you™re through that part. I™m
not really familiar with enterasys™ product line.



Thanks,
Brian
Desmond

brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx



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From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Noah Eiger
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005
1:51 AM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:
Enterasys vs Cisco



Thanks. Some detail:

- routers to terminate both ends of a point-to-point T1 as
well as two bonded T1s to the Internet. Firewall and VPN termination for up to
250 simultaneous tunnels. From Cisco: 2821 with 1 WIC and 1 dual-port WIC.

- Full gigabit switches with roughly 96 ports similar to two
3750s or 3550s. There is some discussion about the cost-benefit of the very
fast backplane afforded by the 3750™s SmartStack interconnection.

- wireless APs similar to Aironet 1200

- branch office routers with firewall, wireless, and VPN
capable of connecting to the 2821. Similar to Cisco 871W

- all copper Cat 6



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From: Brian Desmond [mailto:brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005
8:35 PM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:
Enterasys vs Cisco



Without you going into much further detail about what exactly are you
planning to do, you might as well include Linksys and DLink in that comparison
too.



How much traffic are you passing? What kind of WAN interfaces? Current?
Planned? Projected? How many kps? How many mbps? Firewalls? How many
interfaces? How much switch port density? Copper? Fiber? 100TX? Gige? 10GigE?
DWDM? Catch my drift?



Thanks,
Brian
Desmond

brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx



c -
312.731.3132





From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Noah Eiger
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005
2:17 PM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Enterasys
vs Cisco



Hi “



Has
anyone had good or bad experiences with Enterasys networking equipment? We are
planning to go with Cisco, but some Enterasys sales folks promise twice the
performance at half the price. (ok, maybe not quite that good but¦.)



Any
thoughts?



Thanks.



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Posts:416

11/22/2005 4:36 AM  
Without you going into much further detail about what exactly are you
planning to do, you might as well include Linksys and DLink in that comparison
too.



How much traffic are you passing? What kind of WAN interfaces? Current?
Planned? Projected? How many kps? How many mbps? Firewalls? How many
interfaces? How much switch port density? Copper? Fiber? 100TX? Gige? 10GigE?
DWDM? Catch my drift?



Thanks,
Brian
Desmond

brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx



c -
312.731.3132





From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Noah Eiger
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005
2:17 PM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Enterasys
vs Cisco



Hi “



Has
anyone had good or bad experiences with Enterasys networking equipment? We are
planning to go with Cisco, but some Enterasys sales folks promise twice the
performance at half the price. (ok, maybe not quite that good but¦.)



Any
thoughts?



Thanks.



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11/22/2005 4:52 AM  
I think the statement of config commands being easier is pretty relative.
Personally I find IOS to be quite intuitive and I could likely punch out a basic
class map for you here even not doing it often based on the amount of time I
spend on IOS based devices¦



Thanks,
Brian
Desmond

brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx



c -
312.731.3132





From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Derek Harris
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005
6:49 PM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:
Enterasys vs Cisco



I've got a bunch of their Matrix C2 switches, and they're
working pretty well.  The config commands are easier than Cisco to achieve
comparable settings, and the default QOS settings work perfectly with our
VOIP.  I plan to add more of them next year; they're a good value for the
money.



HTH

Derek





From:
ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Noah Eiger
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005
12:17 PM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Enterasys
vs Cisco

Hi




Has
anyone had good or bad experiences with Enterasys networking equipment? We are
planning to go with Cisco, but some Enterasys sales folks promise twice the
performance at half the price. (ok, maybe not quite that good but¦.)



Any
thoughts?



Thanks.



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neiger@xxxx.yyy

11/22/2005 6:53 AM  
Thanks. Some detail:

- routers to terminate both ends of a point-to-point T1 as
well as two bonded T1s to the Internet. Firewall and VPN termination for up to
250 simultaneous tunnels. From Cisco: 2821 with 1 WIC and 1 dual-port WIC.

- Full gigabit switches with roughly 96 ports similar to two
3750s or 3550s. There is some discussion about the cost-benefit of the very
fast backplane afforded by the 3750™s SmartStack interconnection.

- wireless APs similar to Aironet 1200

- branch office routers with firewall, wireless, and VPN
capable of connecting to the 2821. Similar to Cisco 871W

- all copper Cat 6



-- nme



From: Brian Desmond [mailto:brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005
8:35 PM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:
Enterasys vs Cisco



Without you going into much further detail about what exactly are you
planning to do, you might as well include Linksys and DLink in that comparison
too.



How much traffic are you passing? What kind of WAN interfaces? Current? Planned?
Projected? How many kps? How many mbps? Firewalls? How many interfaces? How
much switch port density? Copper? Fiber? 100TX? Gige? 10GigE? DWDM? Catch my
drift?



Thanks,
Brian
Desmond

brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx



c -
312.731.3132





From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Noah Eiger
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005
2:17 PM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Enterasys
vs Cisco



Hi




Has
anyone had good or bad experiences with Enterasys networking equipment? We are
planning to go with Cisco, but some Enterasys sales folks promise twice the
performance at half the price. (ok, maybe not quite that good but¦.)



Any
thoughts?



Thanks.



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11/22/2005 7:44 AM  
Yes, it is relative.  What I should have said is
that the config commands are simpler than Cisco IOS to achieve
comparable settings -- they don't generally require as many
parameters, because the defaults work well for what I'm trying to do. 
I still run all Cisco routers; I just found the Enterasys switches to be a good
value for the money.
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Brian
DesmondSent: Monday, November 21, 2005 9:51 PMTo:
ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Enterasys vs
Cisco
I
think the statement of config commands being easier is pretty relative.
Personally I find IOS to be quite intuitive and I could likely punch out a basic
class map for you here even not doing it often based on the amount of time I
spend on IOS based devices¦


Thanks,Brian
Desmond
brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

c -
312.731.3132




From:
ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Derek
HarrisSent: Monday, November
21, 2005 6:49 PMTo:
ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Enterasys vs
Cisco

I've got a bunch of their Matrix C2
switches, and they're working pretty well.  The config commands are easier
than Cisco to achieve comparable settings, and the default QOS settings work
perfectly with our VOIP.  I plan to add more of them next year; they're a
good value for the money.

HTH
Derek


From:
ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Noah
EigerSent: Monday, November
21, 2005 12:17 PMTo:
ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [ActiveDir] OT: Enterasys vs
Cisco
Hi


Has
anyone had good or bad experiences with Enterasys networking equipment? We are
planning to go with Cisco, but some Enterasys sales folks promise twice the
performance at half the price. (ok, maybe not quite that good
but¦.)

Any
thoughts?

Thanks.

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