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AD000001400 User is Offline

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11/24/2005 6:55 AM
Yesterday morning I had to change my Win2k Server up a bit. I wanted a new static IP address, and the ISP told me that in order to do that, I needed a new NIC (MAC Address). So, I switched the cables on the back of the server, and got the new IP for my external card. I then reversed the settings on both NIC's, so that my (new) internal card used the old internal settings, and the (new) external card used the old external settings. I double-checked the DNS server settings, and they were properly updated. I don't use DHCP internally, so I figured that should be all that I needed to do. However, I have lost my internal network connectivity. The DFS no longer works, from my network machines to the server, though it does work from the server out. I also can no longer connect to the printer which is connected through the server. When I try to map an external drive, when I click on the browse button, all the machines show up except for the server. I've checked each of the workstations, and they can all connect to each other, but as far as they are concerned, the server does not exist. Obviously there is something on the server that I missed, but I have no idea where to even start looking. Can anyone help me to figure this out? Thanks. -- Harald Gill Without Dreams...Life is Nothing List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/

sbradcpa

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11/24/2005 7:41 AM
If this was an SBS box and a DC I'd be majorly wincing and telling you to use the change IP address wizard... if we do it manually we do this: How do I move my server to new hardware: http://www.smallbizserver.net/Default.aspx?PageContentID=324&tabid=141 We do this trick of installing loopback adapters to 'hold' the internal gunk stuff before we move cards. Did you do that? Harald wrote: Yesterday morning I had to change my Win2k Server up a bit. I wanted a new static IP address, and the ISP told me that in order to do that, I needed a new NIC (MAC Address). So, I switched the cables on the back of the server, and got the new IP for my external card. I then reversed the settings on both NIC's, so that my (new) internal card used the old internal settings, and the (new) external card used the old external settings. I double-checked the DNS server settings, and they were properly updated. I don't use DHCP internally, so I figured that should be all that I needed to do. However, I have lost my internal network connectivity. The DFS no longer works, from my network machines to the server, though it does work from the server out. I also can no longer connect to the printer which is connected through the server. When I try to map an external drive, when I click on the browse button, all the machines show up except for the server. I've checked each of the workstations, and they can all connect to each other, but as far as they are concerned, the server does not exist. Obviously there is something on the server that I missed, but I have no idea where to even start looking. Can anyone help me to figure this out? Thanks. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/

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11/24/2005 8:32 AM
Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] burped the following on 24/11/2005 11:40 AM: If this was an SBS box and a DC I'd be majorly wincing and telling you to use the change IP address wizard... if we do it manually we do this: How do I move my server to new hardware: http://www.smallbizserver.net/Default.aspx?PageContentID=324&tabid=141 We do this trick of installing loopback adapters to 'hold' the internal gunk stuff before we move cards. Did you do that? I guess you better start wincing... :) It is a DC (SBS box?). All I did was switch the cables on the back of the machine. Then, I opened the properties for the card that is now external, and I copied the settings. Then I opened the properties for the card that is now internal, and copied those settings. Once that was done, I copied the settings to the (new) external card, and then did the same for the (new) internal card. No cards were physically removed or changed, only which network cable was plugged in where was changed. After that I rebooted the machine. Once the reboot was complete, I checked the DNS, which now showed the new IP for my external card. I had hoped that that would be it, but it wasn't. I can get access to the Internet, but I cannot see the server. It's as though the server has dropped from the network. Yet at the same time, if I open up a commandline window, and ping the server by name, I get a response (TCP protocols, I guess are still working?). I checked the protocols installed for each NIC, and they are all there, with the internal NIC having them all active. What protocols do I need to have installed for internal networking? Right now I have IPX/SPX, NetBeui, and NetBios, as well as Client for MS networks, and File & Printer sharing, all of which are enabled. -- Harald Gill Without Dreams...Life is Nothing List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/

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11/24/2005 8:39 AM
Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] burped the following on 24/11/2005 11:40 AM: If this was an SBS box and a DC I'd be majorly wincing and telling you to use the change IP address wizard... if we do it manually we do this: How do I move my server to new hardware: http://www.smallbizserver.net/Default.aspx?PageContentID=324&tabid=141 We do this trick of installing loopback adapters to 'hold' the internal gunk stuff before we move cards. Did you do that? The server is running only Windows 2000 server. I use 3rd party products for everything else...ie Apache web server, Mercury email, Serv-U FTP. -- Harald Gill Without Dreams...Life is Nothing List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/

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11/24/2005 9:01 AM
Harald, Am I reading this right, that you changed the MAC addresses on both NIC's (swapped 'em) or just changed the TCP/IP settings? Also to clarify, the server is resolving the internal IP via DNS correctly, and you can access the box via the internet on the external IP... But internally you can't browse to the server? Have I understood your problem? Thanks! :) themolk. > -----Original Message----- > From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Harald > Sent: Friday, 25 November 2005 4:54 AM > To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [ActiveDir] Server Disappeared > > Yesterday morning I had to change my Win2k Server up a bit. I > wanted a new static IP address, and the ISP told me that in > order to do that, I needed a new NIC (MAC Address). So, I > switched the cables on the back of the server, and got the > new IP for my external card. > > I then reversed the settings on both NIC's, so that my (new) > internal card used the old internal settings, and the (new) > external card used the old external settings. > > I double-checked the DNS server settings, and they were > properly updated. I don't use DHCP internally, so I figured > that should be all that I needed to do. > > However, I have lost my internal network connectivity. The > DFS no longer works, from my network machines to the server, > though it does work from the server out. I also can no longer > connect to the printer which is connected through the server. > > When I try to map an external drive, when I click on the > browse button, all the machines show up except for the server. > > I've checked each of the workstations, and they can all > connect to each other, but as far as they are concerned, the > server does not exist. > > Obviously there is something on the server that I missed, but > I have no idea where to even start looking. Can anyone help > me to figure this out? > > Thanks. > > -- > Harald Gill > Without Dreams...Life is Nothing > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/

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11/24/2005 9:35 AM
Molkentin, Steve burped the following on 24/11/2005 1:00 PM: Harald, Am I reading this right, that you changed the MAC addresses on both NIC's (swapped 'em) or just changed the TCP/IP settings? Yes, I switched the cables to the NICs, and then reversed the TCP and other settings. Also to clarify, the server is resolving the internal IP via DNS correctly, and you can access the box via the internet on the external IP... But internally you can't browse to the server? Have I understood your problem? From a workstation, I can ping the server using its name, or IP address. From the outside world, I can also see the server via IP address, but outside DNS hasn't updated yet, so by name from outside is still going to the old address. Internally, using normal network protocols, I see nothing of the server, AD, or anything. -- Harald Gill Without Dreams...Life is Nothing List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/

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11/24/2005 9:42 AM
Have you "bounced" (rebooted, or shutdown/restarted) the server since the changes? themolk. > -----Original Message----- > From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Harald > Sent: Friday, 25 November 2005 7:33 AM > To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Server Disappeared > > Molkentin, Steve burped the following on 24/11/2005 1:00 PM: > > >Harald, > > > >Am I reading this right, that you changed the MAC addresses on both > >NIC's (swapped 'em) or just changed the TCP/IP settings? > > > > > Yes, I switched the cables to the NICs, and then reversed the > TCP and other settings. > > >Also to clarify, the server is resolving the internal IP via DNS > >correctly, and you can access the box via the internet on > the external > >IP... But internally you can't browse to the server? Have I > understood > >your problem? > > > > > From a workstation, I can ping the server using its name, or > IP address. From the outside world, I can also see the server > via IP address, but outside DNS hasn't updated yet, so by > name from outside is still going to the old address. > Internally, using normal network protocols, I see nothing of > the server, AD, or anything. > > -- > Harald Gill > Without Dreams...Life is Nothing > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/

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11/24/2005 11:11 AM
Molkentin, Steve burped the following on 24/11/2005 1:40 PM: Have you "bounced" (rebooted, or shutdown/restarted) the server since the changes? themolk. Several times. -- Harald Gill Without Dreams...Life is Nothing List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/

sbradcpa

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11/25/2005 1:20 AM
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 154.11.128.187 I'm assuming that's the two IP addresses there? Now with the caveat that the only way I know is the SBS way which is point inward for DNS and then you do root hints/or forwarders, if this was a SBS box I'd be telling you to get rid of that 154.11.128.187 on the internal nic. See how our DNS points inward on both nics? But I'm not sure how you have yours set up. I forwarded you the screen shot of the WINS section of the tcp/ip where there's a little check box to enable netibios over tcp/ip. Mine are checked for that inside nic. Harald wrote: Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] burped the following on 24/11/2005 4:14 PM: After a meal of Ham my brain is a bit fuzzy [just ran home 'cause Dad's on dial up and his a/v expired and I'm getting a new version ...remind me to buy him DSL for Christmas] All I know is we can't just 'move' the nics... we have to tie the services/what not to a loopback, then remove the nic, then put in a new nic and transfer to the new nics. do an ipconfig/all and see what it says..on the WINS tab is Netbios over tcp/ip bound to that internal nic? What WINS tab? The only WINS tab I know of is under the TCP/IP protocol properties for the NIC, and all it has is a box for WINS server addresses. The home SBS/dual nic server [okay so no comments from the peanut gallery regarding server/domain names] Microsoft Windows [Version 5.2.3790] (C) Copyright 1985-2003 Microsoft Corp. C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig /all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : kikibitzfinal Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Kikibitzrtm.local Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : Kikibitzrtm.local Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Kingston EtherRx KNE111TX PCI Fast Ethern et Adapter Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-F0-6C-6C-D4 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled Ethernet adapter Server Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connection Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-03-47-68-F5-E4 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2 Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2 Ok, here is the result of ipconfig /all Windows 2000 IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : starfleetcmd Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : starfleet3.ca Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : starfleet3.ca bc.hsia.telus.net Ethernet adapter World: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : bc.hsia.telus.net Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Linksys LNE100TX(v5) Fast Ethernet Adapter Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-03-6D-13-18-15 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 142.179.115.117 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.252.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 142.179.112.254 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 64.114.195.133 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 154.11.128.187 154.11.128.59 64.114.195.135 64.114.195.136 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : November 23, 2005 2:33:03 PM Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : November 30, 2005 2:33:03 PM Ethernet adapter Internal Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : starfleet3.ca Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com 3C920 Integrated Fast Ethernet Controller (3C905C-TX Compatible) Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-B0-D0-24-67-63 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 154.11.128.187 List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/

ken

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11/25/2005 4:27 AM
Did you say that you can ping the internal NIC by IP address or name from a workstation? If so, it would appear that you have TCP/IP running just fine, and you have some other issue. What you mean by "Internally, using normal network protocols, I see nothing of the server, AD, or anything." I'm not sure. TCP/IP is a "normal" protocol, and you can reach the server using TCP/IP. So, something else is up. What exactly are you attempting to do? And what's happening as a result? Please list any error messages you are seeing. Additionally, if you look in your Windows Event Logs, do you see anything that might help shed light on the situation? Thanks Cheers Ken -----Original Message----- From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Harald Sent: Friday, 25 November 2005 11:44 AM To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Server Disappeared Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] burped the following on 24/11/2005 4:14 PM: > After a meal of Ham my brain is a bit fuzzy [just ran home 'cause > Dad's on dial up and his a/v expired and I'm getting a new version > ...remind me to buy him DSL for Christmas] > > All I know is we can't just 'move' the nics... we have to tie the > services/what not to a loopback, then remove the nic, then put in a > new nic and transfer to the new nics. > > > do an ipconfig/all and see what it says..on the WINS tab is Netbios > over tcp/ip bound to that internal nic? What WINS tab? The only WINS tab I know of is under the TCP/IP protocol properties for the NIC, and all it has is a box for WINS server addresses. > > The home SBS/dual nic server [okay so no comments from the peanut > gallery regarding server/domain names] > > Microsoft Windows [Version 5.2.3790] > (C) Copyright 1985-2003 Microsoft Corp. > > C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig /all > > Windows IP Configuration > > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : kikibitzfinal > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Kikibitzrtm.local > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : Kikibitzrtm.local > > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Kingston EtherRx KNE111TX PCI > Fast Ethern > et Adapter > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-F0-6C-6C-D4 > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2 > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled > > Ethernet adapter Server Local Area Connection: > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network > Connection > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-03-47-68-F5-E4 > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2 > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2 > Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2 > > Ok, here is the result of ipconfig /all Windows 2000 IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : starfleetcmd Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : starfleet3.ca Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : starfleet3.ca bc.hsia.telus.net Ethernet adapter World: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : bc.hsia.telus.net Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Linksys LNE100TX(v5) Fast Ethernet Adapter Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-03-6D-13-18-15 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 142.179.115.117 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.252.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 142.179.112.254 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 64.114.195.133 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 154.11.128.187 154.11.128.59 64.114.195.135 64.114.195.136 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : November 23, 2005 2:33:03 PM Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : November 30, 2005 2:33:03 PM Ethernet adapter Internal Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : starfleet3.ca Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com 3C920 Integrated Fast Ethernet Controller (3C905C-TX Compatible) Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-B0-D0-24-67-63 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 154.11.128.187 List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/

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11/25/2005 6:15 AM
Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] burped the following on 24/11/2005 5:19 PM: DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 154.11.128.187 I'm assuming that's the two IP addresses there? Now with the caveat that the only way I know is the SBS way which is point inward for DNS and then you do root hints/or forwarders, if this was a SBS box I'd be telling you to get rid of that 154.11.128.187 on the internal nic. See how our DNS points inward on both nics? But I'm not sure how you have yours set up. I forwarded you the screen shot of the WINS section of the tcp/ip where there's a little check box to enable netibios over tcp/ip. Mine are checked for that inside nic. Enable NetBios over TCPIP is enabled. -- Harald Gill Without Dreams...Life is Nothing List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/

sbradcpa

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11/25/2005 7:09 AM
Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] burped the following on 25/11/2005 10:42 AM: That little guy isn't seeing DHCP or DNS ... on the internal network side who'd handling the DHCP? You can review these Event ID's and see a bit.... I'm not using DHCP, I never did. All the internal machines have static addresses. EventID.Net: http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=5781&eventno=167&source=NETLOGON&phase=1 EventID.Net: http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=20169&eventno=25&source=RemoteAccess&phase=1 EventID.Net: http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=31002&eventno=557&source=ipnathlp&phase=1 23/11/2005 2:34:41 PM ipnathlp Error None 31002 N/A STARFLEETCMD The DNS proxy agent was unable to bind to the IP address 192.168.0.1. This error may indicate a problem with TCP/IP networking. The data is the error code. On that entry? In the event viewer can you click on the copy button on that one and paste the entire contents? Yup, here it is. ............................. Date: 23/11/2005 Source: ipnathlp Time: 14:34 Category: None Type: Error Event ID: 31002 User: N/A Computer: STARFLEETCMD Description: The DNS proxy agent was unable to bind to the IP address 192.168.0.1. This error may indicate a problem with TCP/IP networking. The data is the error code. Data: Bytes 0000: 1d 27 00 00 ................................ -- Harald Gill Without Dreams...Life is Nothing List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/

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11/25/2005 11:50 AM
Harald - You have two NICs installed in this box, which is a DC. (Not a suggested / recommended configuration, but beside the point) Do you also have ICS installed, or Routing and Remote Access with natting installed? (Educated guess, given the 192.168.0.1 address....) Be extremely verbose on the server configuration. I suspect that the change of the NIC is going to require some reconfiguration of the ICS or RRAS. Rick -- Posting is provided "AS IS", and confers no rights or warranties ... -----Original Message----- From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Harald Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 1:07 PM To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Server Disappeared Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] burped the following on 25/11/2005 10:42 AM: > That little guy isn't seeing DHCP or DNS ... on the internal network > side who'd handling the DHCP? You can review these Event ID's and see > a bit.... I'm not using DHCP, I never did. All the internal machines have static addresses. > > EventID.Net: > http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=5781&eventno=167&source=NET > LOGON&phase=1 > > > > EventID.Net: > http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=20169&eventno=25&source=Rem > oteAccess&phase=1 > > > > EventID.Net: > http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=31002&eventno=557&source=ip > nathlp&phase=1 > > > 23/11/2005 2:34:41 PM ipnathlp Error None 31002 > N/A STARFLEETCMD The DNS proxy agent was unable to bind to the > IP address 192.168.0.1. This error may indicate a problem with TCP/IP > networking. The data is the error code. > On that entry? In the event viewer can you click on the copy button > on that one and paste the entire contents? > Yup, here it is. ............................. Date: 23/11/2005 Source: ipnathlp Time: 14:34 Category: None Type: Error Event ID: 31002 User: N/A Computer: STARFLEETCMD Description: The DNS proxy agent was unable to bind to the IP address 192.168.0.1. This error may indicate a problem with TCP/IP networking. The data is the error code. Data: Bytes 0000: 1d 27 00 00 ................................ -- Harald Gill Without Dreams...Life is Nothing List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/

sbradcpa

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11/25/2005 11:59 AM
Well it depends on who you are :-) We actually highly recommend two nics in our SBS DCs :-) It was binding order. External nic was first. ICS ...ick... what are we workgroup? I'm an RRAS fan :-) [okay the SBSer will go shut up now :-) Rick Kingslan wrote: Harald - You have two NICs installed in this box, which is a DC. (Not a suggested / recommended configuration, but beside the point) Do you also have ICS installed, or Routing and Remote Access with natting installed? (Educated guess, given the 192.168.0.1 address....) Be extremely verbose on the server configuration. I suspect that the change of the NIC is going to require some reconfiguration of the ICS or RRAS. Rick -- Posting is provided "AS IS", and confers no rights or warranties ... -----Original Message----- From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Harald Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 1:07 PM To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Server Disappeared Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] burped the following on 25/11/2005 10:42 AM: That little guy isn't seeing DHCP or DNS ... on the internal network side who'd handling the DHCP? You can review these Event ID's and see a bit.... I'm not using DHCP, I never did. All the internal machines have static addresses. EventID.Net: http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=5781&eventno=167&source=NET LOGON&phase=1 EventID.Net: http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=20169&eventno=25&source=Rem oteAccess&phase=1 EventID.Net: http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=31002&eventno=557&source=ip nathlp&phase=1 23/11/2005 2:34:41 PM ipnathlp Error None 31002 N/A STARFLEETCMD The DNS proxy agent was unable to bind to the IP address 192.168.0.1. This error may indicate a problem with TCP/IP networking. The data is the error code. On that entry? In the event viewer can you click on the copy button on that one and paste the entire contents? Yup, here it is. ............................. Date: 23/11/2005 Source: ipnathlp Time: 14:34 Category: None Type: Error Event ID: 31002 User: N/A Computer: STARFLEETCMD Description: The DNS proxy agent was unable to bind to the IP address 192.168.0.1. This error may indicate a problem with TCP/IP networking. The data is the error code. Data: Bytes 0000: 1d 27 00 00 ................................ -- Harald Gill Without Dreams...Life is Nothing List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/

sbradcpa

Posts:352

11/25/2005 12:14 PM
After a meal of Ham my brain is a bit fuzzy [just ran home 'cause Dad's on dial up and his a/v expired and I'm getting a new version ...remind me to buy him DSL for Christmas] All I know is we can't just 'move' the nics... we have to tie the services/what not to a loopback, then remove the nic, then put in a new nic and transfer to the new nics. do an ipconfig/all and see what it says..on the WINS tab is Netbios over tcp/ip bound to that internal nic? The home SBS/dual nic server [okay so no comments from the peanut gallery regarding server/domain names] Microsoft Windows [Version 5.2.3790] (C) Copyright 1985-2003 Microsoft Corp. C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig /all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : kikibitzfinal Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Kikibitzrtm.local Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : Kikibitzrtm.local Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Kingston EtherRx KNE111TX PCI Fast Ethern et Adapter Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-F0-6C-6C-D4 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled Ethernet adapter Server Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connection Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-03-47-68-F5-E4 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2 Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2 C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator> Harald wrote: Molkentin, Steve burped the following on 24/11/2005 1:40 PM: Have you "bounced" (rebooted, or shutdown/restarted) the server since the changes? themolk. Several times. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/

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11/25/2005 12:45 PM
Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] burped the following on 24/11/2005 4:14 PM: After a meal of Ham my brain is a bit fuzzy [just ran home 'cause Dad's on dial up and his a/v expired and I'm getting a new version ...remind me to buy him DSL for Christmas] All I know is we can't just 'move' the nics... we have to tie the services/what not to a loopback, then remove the nic, then put in a new nic and transfer to the new nics. do an ipconfig/all and see what it says..on the WINS tab is Netbios over tcp/ip bound to that internal nic? What WINS tab? The only WINS tab I know of is under the TCP/IP protocol properties for the NIC, and all it has is a box for WINS server addresses. The home SBS/dual nic server [okay so no comments from the peanut gallery regarding server/domain names] Microsoft Windows [Version 5.2.3790] (C) Copyright 1985-2003 Microsoft Corp. C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig /all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : kikibitzfinal Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Kikibitzrtm.local Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : Kikibitzrtm.local Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Kingston EtherRx KNE111TX PCI Fast Ethern et Adapter Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-F0-6C-6C-D4 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled Ethernet adapter Server Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connection Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-03-47-68-F5-E4 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2 Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2 Ok, here is the result of ipconfig /all Windows 2000 IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : starfleetcmd Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : starfleet3.ca Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : starfleet3.ca bc.hsia.telus.net Ethernet adapter World: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : bc.hsia.telus.net Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Linksys LNE100TX(v5) Fast Ethernet Adapter Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-03-6D-13-18-15 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 142.179.115.117 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.252.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 142.179.112.254 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 64.114.195.133 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 154.11.128.187 154.11.128.59 64.114.195.135 64.114.195.136 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : November 23, 2005 2:33:03 PM Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : November 30, 2005 2:33:03 PM Ethernet adapter Internal Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : starfleet3.ca Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com 3C920 Integrated Fast Ethernet Controller (3C905C-TX Compatible) Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-B0-D0-24-67-63 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 154.11.128.187 -- Harald Gill Without Dreams...Life is Nothing List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/

sbradcpa

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11/26/2005 1:54 AM
Okay so which list member is closest to Rick and can slug him? There are some things you just can't do virtually via email. :-) back at ya in the meantime.... Rick Kingslan wrote: So, then - it's resolved and Harald is all happy? Cool... Now, about that two NICs in a DC attached to the Internet thing. I really hope I NEVER hear an SBSer complain that Windows is not a secure operating system given THAT configuration.... ;op Rick -- Posting is provided "AS IS", and confers no rights or warranties ... -----Original Message----- From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 5:59 PM To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Server Disappeared Well it depends on who you are :-) We actually highly recommend two nics in our SBS DCs :-) It was binding order. External nic was first. ICS ...ick... what are we workgroup? I'm an RRAS fan :-) [okay the SBSer will go shut up now :-) Rick Kingslan wrote: Harald - You have two NICs installed in this box, which is a DC. (Not a suggested / recommended configuration, but beside the point) Do you also have ICS installed, or Routing and Remote Access with natting installed? (Educated guess, given the 192.168.0.1 address....) Be extremely verbose on the server configuration. I suspect that the change of the NIC is going to require some reconfiguration of the ICS or RRAS. Rick -- Posting is provided "AS IS", and confers no rights or warranties ... -----Original Message----- From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Harald Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 1:07 PM To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Server Disappeared Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] burped the following on 25/11/2005 10:42 AM: That little guy isn't seeing DHCP or DNS ... on the internal network side who'd handling the DHCP? You can review these Event ID's and see a bit.... I'm not using DHCP, I never did. All the internal machines have static addresses. EventID.Net: http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=5781&eventno=167&source=NET LOGON&phase=1 EventID.Net: http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=20169&eventno=25&source=Rem oteAccess&phase=1 EventID.Net: http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=31002&eventno=557&source=ip nathlp&phase=1 23/11/2005 2:34:41 PM ipnathlp Error None 31002 N/A STARFLEETCMD The DNS proxy agent was unable to bind to the IP address 192.168.0.1. This error may indicate a problem with TCP/IP networking. The data is the error code. On that entry? In the event viewer can you click on the copy button on that one and paste the entire contents? Yup, here it is. ............................. Date: 23/11/2005 Source: ipnathlp Time: 14:34 Category: None Type: Error Event ID: 31002 User: N/A Computer: STARFLEETCMD Description: The DNS proxy agent was unable to bind to the IP address 192.168.0.1. This error may indicate a problem with TCP/IP networking. The data is the error code. Data: Bytes 0000: 1d 27 00 00 ................................ -- Harald Gill Without Dreams...Life is Nothing List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/

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11/26/2005 3:08 AM
That sounds goofy that you needed a new MAC address. However if that is what they said, no use arguing with the rain. You just get wet. You don't need to swap the physical hardware around, most desktop/server NICs allow you to specify what MAC address they are. Just change that. -----Original Message----- From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Harald Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 1:54 PM To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ActiveDir] Server Disappeared Yesterday morning I had to change my Win2k Server up a bit. I wanted a new static IP address, and the ISP told me that in order to do that, I needed a new NIC (MAC Address). So, I switched the cables on the back of the server, and got the new IP for my external card. I then reversed the settings on both NIC's, so that my (new) internal card used the old internal settings, and the (new) external card used the old external settings. I double-checked the DNS server settings, and they were properly updated. I don't use DHCP internally, so I figured that should be all that I needed to do. However, I have lost my internal network connectivity. The DFS no longer works, from my network machines to the server, though it does work from the server out. I also can no longer connect to the printer which is connected through the server. When I try to map an external drive, when I click on the browse button, all the machines show up except for the server. I've checked each of the workstations, and they can all connect to each other, but as far as they are concerned, the server does not exist. Obviously there is something on the server that I missed, but I have no idea where to even start looking. Can anyone help me to figure this out? Thanks. -- Harald Gill Without Dreams...Life is Nothing List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/

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