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01/13/2006 10:35 AM
Brett Shirley wrote: Al, I always wished that Microsoft would support multiple file versions like VMS did. I'm just curious, if you have the time, for my own edification, what was this VMS file system feature? Could you elaborate how it worked? It's a simple thing. You edit a file and when you save the file a new version of the file was created in the same directory. Say you edited login.com (in VMS this is not a binary) for the first time and saved your changes the directory would look something like this: LOGIN.COM;2 time/date stamp LOGIN.COM;1 ... Unless you have file version limits set or manually purged one could have up to 32768 copies of the file. It did chew up space but made rolling back bad command procedures really easy. It did cause problems on occasion but was very handy. Oh - lexical functions would be nice too. al Cheers, BrettSh [msft] SDE - ESE On Thu, 12 Jan 2006, Al Lilianstrom wrote: Don't forget the VAXMate and PCSA v1.1. What a interesting pair... My brother in law worked for DEC at that time and had a VAXStation II and a Pro350 that he had bought from DEC in his basement. Kept trying to sell me the Pro. VMS was great. I turned off my last VAX just over 2 years ago. It had been up and running for 8 years. Great OS, great hardware, lousy company management. I always wished that Microsoft would support multiple file versions like VMS did. al Lee, Wook wrote: Ah, now we're really dragging out the old war horses. My first job at DEC was writing CBI courses for the DECmate WPS+ list processing module. They gave me a Robin (think VT100 with a processor and dual 5.25" floppy disks) to use at home (a little basement studio next to the laundry room in the basement of my apartment building in Acton, MA.) My second job was writing a device driver in C for a Polaroid CRT-to-film peripheral called the Polaroid Palette (had a mini-high resolution B&W CRT and a Color-filter wheel all controlled by a Z80 processor) for the very same Rainbow PC. In those days, Digital could not decide on a PC strategy. There were three different product lines that all had some potential but none of them took off. We had the Rainbow which was close to what became mainstream with an 8088 or 8086 processor, the DECmate with was basically a secretarial workstation running WPS+ and not much else and the Pro 350 which was a repackaged PDP-11 that spent a few years as the console device for some of the bigger VAXen. If I recall correctly, the Pro 350 OS was based on RSTS. Those were the good old days before 1987 and Black Tuesday. I think I had some Digital options at something like $150. Sigh. Wook -----Original Message----- From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kat Collins Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 6:18 PM To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: DEC 2006 Anyone remember the Rainbow? It was DEC's attempt at a Personal computer. Launched in early '83, if I remember... ran its own proprietary DEC-OS and was not compatible with any IBM-DOS apps. It died a year or two later, but the marketing stickers held up for about 10 years!! I had one stuck to my daughter's mirror and damned if I could get it off!! And the DECwriter and the Gold key..... ahhhh - sweet memories!! On 1/11/06, joe wrote: Ah but people using DEC and attending DECUS were smarter than the average bear.... To this day the people I meet who grew up on DEC are more well rounded and knowledgeable in the field than the norm. The good ol days... Anyone remember Mike Mayfield and the RSTS/E Monitor Internals books he wrote? Only place to get the real scoop on the internals so you could really wreak havoc. I think he also wrote the original Trek too so if your system was still up after poking around in the internals you could play a video game on your DecWriter or VT52. I got my first official corporate support position supporting OS/2 and Win31 on Token Ring back in the mid 90's because I knew DEC. The 8 or so people in the panel interview started asking me questions about the equipment the job was for (OS/2 Win31 tcp/ip Token Ring) and I couldn't answer any of the questions so they saw DEC on my resume and started asking DEC questions and a couple of hours later we were all laughing and I had my choice of the three open positions they had even though I knew nothing about any of them. :) -----Original Message----- From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John McGlinchey Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 4:13 PM To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: DEC 2006 My experience is just the opposite. I attended DECUS (The other DEC, Digital Equipment Computer Users Society Symposia) a few times back in the 90's and the casinos complained that the attendees were not losing enough money. This was attributed to 1) most of the attendees knew the odds were against them so they kept their money in their pockets where it belonged and 2) the ones that did play were pretty good at it and were winning too much. I'll not be attending but I'm sending someone that works for me instead. Have a good conference. John McGlinchey -----Original Message----- From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thommes, Michael M. Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 3:38 PM To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: DEC 2006 I think you are going to find the same at Green Valley - http://www.greenvalleyranchresort.com/gaming/index.html Leave your car and house titles at home! List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ -- Kat Collins - "The Email of the species is more powerful than the Mail!" "The human voice is the organ of the soul." Henry Wadsworth Longfellow List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ -- Al Lilianstrom CD/CSS/CSI Al.Lilianstrom@xxxxxxxx List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ -- Al Lilianstrom CD/CSS/CSI Al.Lilianstrom@xxxxxxxx List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/

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