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dpala@xxxx.yyy
 | | 09/21/2005 5:23 AM |
| Hi,
We're in the process of planning to migrate from Notes to Exchange and one
the dependenices of this migration is a SAN environment. Has anyone utilized the services of any independent consulting bodies to
carry out a SAN assessment. Essentially, helping in the process of
determining requirements and laying out a path to successful deployment with
considerations for high availability, scalability and future considerations. Thanks, List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
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| bdesmond
Posts:995
 | | 09/21/2005 6:04 AM |
| I work for a consulting firm that does these sorts of things, so, yes I know
people utilize consulting firms to do this stuff. :)
Thanks,
Brian Desmond
brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
c - 312.731.3132
-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Devan Pala
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 11:04 AM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: SAN Assessment
Hi,
We're in the process of planning to migrate from Notes to Exchange and one
the dependenices of this migration is a SAN environment.
Has anyone utilized the services of any independent consulting bodies to
carry out a SAN assessment. Essentially, helping in the process of
determining requirements and laying out a path to successful deployment with
considerations for high availability, scalability and future considerations.
Thanks, List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
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| aricbernard
Posts:4
 | | 09/21/2005 6:41 AM |
| Yep, lots of consulting firms do his sort of work. Who is the SAN
vendor? Typically they will be happy to come out and help with this
kind of activity as it usually means additional sales now or in the
future.
Aric
-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Brian Desmond
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 10:45 AM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: SAN Assessment
I work for a consulting firm that does these sorts of things, so, yes I
know
people utilize consulting firms to do this stuff. :)
Thanks,
Brian Desmond
brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
c - 312.731.3132
-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Devan Pala
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 11:04 AM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: SAN Assessment
Hi,
We're in the process of planning to migrate from Notes to Exchange and
one
the dependenices of this migration is a SAN environment.
Has anyone utilized the services of any independent consulting bodies to
carry out a SAN assessment. Essentially, helping in the process of
determining requirements and laying out a path to successful deployment
with
considerations for high availability, scalability and future
considerations.
Thanks, List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx
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| jmedeiros@xxxx.yyy
 | | 09/21/2005 6:53 AM |
| Hi Devan,
May I ask what vendor you are using for your SAN's? We use HP EVA 5000's, MSA 1500's and MSA 1000's. HP offers much of what you need through their professional services group and their presales team. I am also sure if you choose an IBM or EMC, etc.. they also offer such services and are experts on their product lines and implementation path. I would start with your vendor first and then compare their proposal to qualified consulting firms if time permits.
Jose
-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Devan Pala
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 8:04 AM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: SAN Assessment Hi,
We're in the process of planning to migrate from Notes to Exchange and one
the dependenices of this migration is a SAN environment.
Has anyone utilized the services of any independent consulting bodies to
carry out a SAN assessment. Essentially, helping in the process of
determining requirements and laying out a path to successful deployment with
considerations for high availability, scalability and future considerations.
Thanks, List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
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| dpala@xxxx.yyy
 | | 09/21/2005 10:10 AM |
| Well we don't have a preferred vendor. We're looking at all the obvious
choices: HP, EMC, StorageTek (SUN) etc. Right now its more important to just get an independent (non-vendor
specific) assessment carried out. Thanks,
"Firefox - Rediscover the web "
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Bernard, Aric"
Reply-To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To:
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: SAN Assessment
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 14:25:57 -0400
Yep, lots of consulting firms do his sort of work. Who is the SAN
vendor? Typically they will be happy to come out and help with this
kind of activity as it usually means additional sales now or in the
future.
Aric
-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Brian Desmond
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 10:45 AM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: SAN Assessment
I work for a consulting firm that does these sorts of things, so, yes I
know
people utilize consulting firms to do this stuff. :)
Thanks,
Brian Desmond
brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
c - 312.731.3132
-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Devan Pala
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 11:04 AM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: SAN Assessment
Hi,
We're in the process of planning to migrate from Notes to Exchange and
one
the dependenices of this migration is a SAN environment.
Has anyone utilized the services of any independent consulting bodies to
carry out a SAN assessment. Essentially, helping in the process of
determining requirements and laying out a path to successful deployment
with
considerations for high availability, scalability and future
considerations.
Thanks, List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx
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http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
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| dpala@xxxx.yyy
 | | 09/21/2005 10:14 AM |
| Hi Brian,
Sure. Is it something your firm does or do you have references?
Thanks,
"Firefox - Rediscover the web "
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Brian Desmond"
Reply-To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To:
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: SAN Assessment
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:44:38 -0400
I work for a consulting firm that does these sorts of things, so, yes I know
people utilize consulting firms to do this stuff. :)
Thanks,
Brian Desmond
brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
c - 312.731.3132
-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Devan Pala
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 11:04 AM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: SAN Assessment
Hi,
We're in the process of planning to migrate from Notes to Exchange and one
the dependenices of this migration is a SAN environment.
Has anyone utilized the services of any independent consulting bodies to
carry out a SAN assessment. Essentially, helping in the process of
determining requirements and laying out a path to successful deployment with
considerations for high availability, scalability and future considerations.
Thanks, List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx
List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
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| hcoleman
Posts:133
 | | 09/21/2005 10:27 AM |
| If you have the time, pick up a copy of Pierre Bijaoui's "Scaling
Microsoft Exchange 2000." I don't think it's been updated for Exchange
2003, but most everything he covers in there carries forward. It's very
good information on building storage infrastructure for Exchange,
including SANs.
It may not replace a consulting engagement, but it will give you enough
background to understand (and question) any recommendations.
-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Devan Pala
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 4:00 PM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: SAN Assessment
Well we don't have a preferred vendor. We're looking at all the obvious
choices: HP, EMC, StorageTek (SUN) etc.
Right now its more important to just get an independent (non-vendor
specific) assessment carried out.
Thanks,
"Firefox - Rediscover the web "
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Bernard, Aric"
Reply-To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To:
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: SAN Assessment
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 14:25:57 -0400
Yep, lots of consulting firms do his sort of work. Who is the SAN
vendor? Typically they will be happy to come out and help with this
kind of activity as it usually means additional sales now or in the
future.
Aric
-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Brian Desmond
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 10:45 AM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: SAN Assessment
I work for a consulting firm that does these sorts of things, so, yes I
know people utilize consulting firms to do this stuff. :)
Thanks,
Brian Desmond
brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
c - 312.731.3132
-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Devan Pala
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 11:04 AM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: SAN Assessment
Hi,
We're in the process of planning to migrate from Notes to Exchange and
one the dependenices of this migration is a SAN environment.
Has anyone utilized the services of any independent consulting bodies to
carry out a SAN assessment. Essentially, helping in the process of
determining requirements and laying out a path to successful deployment
with
considerations for high availability, scalability and future
considerations.
Thanks, List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx
List archive:
http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
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| AD00000275
Posts:0
 | | 09/21/2005 10:33 AM |
| We have an HP EVA5000. Works like a champ, excellent support, easily
expandable.
But....can be a PITA to set up Host Bus Adapters....a small
inconvenience for the flexibility and storage.
-----Original Message-----
From: Devan Pala [mailto:dpala@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 3:00 PM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: SAN Assessment Well we don't have a preferred vendor. We're looking at all the obvious
choices: HP, EMC, StorageTek (SUN) etc.
Right now its more important to just get an independent (non-vendor
specific) assessment carried out.
Thanks,
"Firefox - Rediscover the web "
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Bernard, Aric"
Reply-To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To:
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: SAN Assessment
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 14:25:57 -0400
Yep, lots of consulting firms do his sort of work. Who is the SAN
vendor? Typically they will be happy to come out and help with this
kind of activity as it usually means additional sales now or in the
future.
Aric
-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Brian Desmond
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 10:45 AM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: SAN Assessment
I work for a consulting firm that does these sorts of things, so, yes I
know people utilize consulting firms to do this stuff. :)
Thanks,
Brian Desmond
brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
c - 312.731.3132
-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Devan Pala
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 11:04 AM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: SAN Assessment
Hi,
We're in the process of planning to migrate from Notes to Exchange and
one the dependenices of this migration is a SAN environment.
Has anyone utilized the services of any independent consulting bodies to
carry out a SAN assessment. Essentially, helping in the process of
determining requirements and laying out a path to successful deployment
with
considerations for high availability, scalability and future
considerations.
Thanks, List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
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| aricbernard
Posts:4
 | | 09/21/2005 10:50 AM |
| And if you do have or considering HP SAN equipment, call you HP
representative and let them know you need help with capacity planning
and configuration for your SAN for Exchange. Most of the folks at HP
involved with this kind of activity follow Pierre's (an HP employee)
methodology and best practices.
In many cases they can provide assistance at little or no direct cost to
you. Aric
-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Coleman, Hunter
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 3:20 PM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: SAN Assessment
If you have the time, pick up a copy of Pierre Bijaoui's "Scaling
Microsoft Exchange 2000." I don't think it's been updated for Exchange
2003, but most everything he covers in there carries forward. It's very
good information on building storage infrastructure for Exchange,
including SANs.
It may not replace a consulting engagement, but it will give you enough
background to understand (and question) any recommendations.
-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Devan Pala
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 4:00 PM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: SAN Assessment
Well we don't have a preferred vendor. We're looking at all the obvious
choices: HP, EMC, StorageTek (SUN) etc.
Right now its more important to just get an independent (non-vendor
specific) assessment carried out.
Thanks,
"Firefox - Rediscover the web "
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Bernard, Aric"
Reply-To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To:
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: SAN Assessment
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 14:25:57 -0400
Yep, lots of consulting firms do his sort of work. Who is the SAN
vendor? Typically they will be happy to come out and help with this
kind of activity as it usually means additional sales now or in the
future.
Aric
-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Brian Desmond
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 10:45 AM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: SAN Assessment
I work for a consulting firm that does these sorts of things, so, yes I
know people utilize consulting firms to do this stuff. :)
Thanks,
Brian Desmond
brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
c - 312.731.3132
-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Devan Pala
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 11:04 AM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: SAN Assessment
Hi,
We're in the process of planning to migrate from Notes to Exchange and
one the dependenices of this migration is a SAN environment.
Has anyone utilized the services of any independent consulting bodies to
carry out a SAN assessment. Essentially, helping in the process of
determining requirements and laying out a path to successful deployment
with
considerations for high availability, scalability and future
considerations.
Thanks, List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
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| Alm@xxxx.yyy
 | | 09/22/2005 2:27 AM |
| I have to say that getting help from your SAN vendor is the first choice
for understanding your current layout and your application integration;
that's what you spend all that money to do.
I can say you should likely prepare yourself for some shocking news
regarding how the SAN gets used for Exchange vs. how you've been sold
SAN in the past. Think performance vs. space though and you'll be fine. Al
-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bernard, Aric
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 2:26 PM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: SAN Assessment
Yep, lots of consulting firms do his sort of work. Who is the SAN
vendor? Typically they will be happy to come out and help with this
kind of activity as it usually means additional sales now or in the
future.
Aric
-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Brian Desmond
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 10:45 AM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: SAN Assessment
I work for a consulting firm that does these sorts of things, so, yes I
know people utilize consulting firms to do this stuff. :)
Thanks,
Brian Desmond
brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
c - 312.731.3132
-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Devan Pala
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 11:04 AM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: SAN Assessment
Hi,
We're in the process of planning to migrate from Notes to Exchange and
one the dependenices of this migration is a SAN environment.
Has anyone utilized the services of any independent consulting bodies to
carry out a SAN assessment. Essentially, helping in the process of
determining requirements and laying out a path to successful deployment
with
considerations for high availability, scalability and future
considerations.
Thanks, List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
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| LawanaGibson@xxxx.yyy
 | | 09/22/2005 2:43 AM |
| Good mornin',
We have a SAN environment within our library. We're running a FC4500
with 1.2 TB of disk space. I have seven servers connected to the SAN
and a PowerVault 136T Tape Library. We had Dell (we're a Dell shop)
come in and assess our environment; we made the decision on how much
disk space we needed, etc. So basically they took our specifications
and produced a system (hardware, mgmt software, HBA). We had them
install a "turn key" system so all we had to do was start moving data
over to the disks (or LUNS). BUT....you have to be very careful and
make sure they are giving you the most current equipment; they are not
selling you mgmt software that will not work with your server
environment....basically make sure they know your network. Make sure
your sales/technical accountant is aware of when your equipment comes
in, who they sent to install the equipment, etc. Have them/make them
document everything! I have horror stories related to our SAN
installation, but once I finally complained loud enough (and we
threatened not to pay them) they sent someone out to reconfigure our
system. We are now in the phase of upgrading our SAN environment...as a
matter of fact I'm meeting with them next week. If I had one thing to
warn you or suggest...make sure YOU are aware of what you're getting as
far as software, HBAs and drivers, SAN management software, etc.
Because if you don't know, you could be stuck with a monster on your
hands.
-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Devan Pala
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 10:04 AM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: SAN Assessment
Hi,
We're in the process of planning to migrate from Notes to Exchange and
one
the dependenices of this migration is a SAN environment.
Has anyone utilized the services of any independent consulting bodies to
carry out a SAN assessment. Essentially, helping in the process of
determining requirements and laying out a path to successful deployment
with
considerations for high availability, scalability and future
considerations.
Thanks, List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
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| deji
Posts:262
 | | 09/22/2005 3:08 AM |
| It is something my companyΏ] does. If you are interested in talking, we can
take it off-list.
Ώ] I should say my "main" employer :)
Sincerely,
Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCP+I
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
www.readymaids.com - we know IT
www.akomolafe.com
Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about
Yesterday? -anon
________________________________
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Devan Pala
Sent: Wed 9/21/2005 3:02 PM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: SAN Assessment
Hi Brian,
Sure. Is it something your firm does or do you have references?
Thanks,
"Firefox - Rediscover the web "
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Brian Desmond"
Reply-To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: SAN Assessment
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:44:38 -0400
I work for a consulting firm that does these sorts of things, so, yes I know
people utilize consulting firms to do this stuff. :)
Thanks,
Brian Desmond
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[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Devan Pala
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 11:04 AM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: SAN Assessment
Hi,
We're in the process of planning to migrate from Notes to Exchange and one
the dependenices of this migration is a SAN environment.
Has anyone utilized the services of any independent consulting bodies to
carry out a SAN assessment. Essentially, helping in the process of
determining requirements and laying out a path to successful deployment with
considerations for high availability, scalability and future considerations.
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| prenouf
Posts:2
 | | 09/22/2005 3:23 AM |
| To get that performance number can be fairly involved and deals with getting performance data from your existing Exchange installation (if you have one), or doing some calculations based on assumptions if you don't have Exchange. Anyone who is experienced with sizing Exchange solutions on a SAN will have the knowledge to help you out with those assumptions. It will likely also involved doing validation of the performance you expect to get from the SAN once it is in place. This is important because you may find ways to improve performance even more by tweaking some configuration on the server or SAN, but more importantly you may find performance bottle necks that you can fix prior to going to production.
Depending on the size of your Exchange environment and how complex it is that performance testing could go on for 4-6 weeks. Longer if it is an incredibly complex environment (Geo-clusters etc.)
Phil
On 9/22/05, Lawana Gibson wrote:
Good mornin',We have a SAN environment within our library. We're running a FC4500with 1.2 TB of disk space. I have seven servers connected to the SAN
and a PowerVault 136T Tape Library. We had Dell (we're a Dell shop)come in and assess our environment; we made the decision on how muchdisk space we needed, etc. So basically they took our specifications
and produced a system (hardware, mgmt software, HBA). We had theminstall a "turn key" system so all we had to do was start moving dataover to the disks (or LUNS). BUT....you have to be very careful and
make sure they are giving you the most current equipment; they are notselling you mgmt software that will not work with your serverenvironment....basically make sure they know your network. Make sureyour sales/technical accountant is aware of when your equipment comes
in, who they sent to install the equipment, etc. Have them/make themdocument everything! I have horror stories related to our SANinstallation, but once I finally complained loud enough (and wethreatened not to pay them) they sent someone out to reconfigure our
system. We are now in the phase of upgrading our SAN environment...as amatter of fact I'm meeting with them next week. If I had one thing towarn you or suggest...make sure YOU are aware of what you're getting as
far as software, HBAs and drivers, SAN management software, etc.Because if you don't know, you could be stuck with a monster on yourhands.-----Original Message-----From:
ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Devan PalaSent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 10:04 AMTo:
ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [ActiveDir] OT: SAN AssessmentHi,We're in the process of planning to migrate from Notes to Exchange andone
the dependenices of this migration is a SAN environment.Has anyone utilized the services of any independent consulting bodies tocarry out a SAN assessment. Essentially, helping in the process ofdetermining requirements and laying out a path to successful deployment
withconsiderations for high availability, scalability and futureconsiderations.Thanks,List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspxList FAQ :
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| Alm@xxxx.yyy
 | | 09/22/2005 4:49 AM |
| LOL. I'm laughing because a company I used to
get paid by thought that's how long it would take as well (I spec'd the project,
and budgeted 7 weeks of lab for the environment and was being overly aggressive
for that; another story.) How long was the actual? Don't know becuase of
the politics surrounding the implementation, the engineering was influenced by
outsided entities that munged it all up and it's still not quite done. At
one point I offered to host 4K user density Exchange clusters on iPaq
devices clustered with a bluetooth piconet. Shame they didn't take me up
on that ;)
I can say that a general principal for Exchange sizing is
to focus on the attaining the desired performance level first and the space
second. Exchange is highly disk dependent for performance especially as
you scale up in db size and user density.
As for sizing, you also generally want to work with
restoration times (restoration of data, service, etc) and work backwards to
derive your density that you need to achieve and then play that back to the disk
subsystem and layout. Exchange is spindle hungry for most SAN
implementations, very similar to other two-phase commit database
applications. There are some nuances to be aware of, but basically the
same concept applies.
Lawana is absolutely correct in how to get the proper
configuration and how important it is. Some SAN vendors I've dealt
with include that evaluation and supported configuration service in the
maintenance. Something to check on. I have ALWAYS gone back to the SAN
vendor to get the thumbs up on the configuration prior to even testing.
Saves a lot of time that way.
My 0.035 anyway.
ajm
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Phil
RenoufSent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 11:21 AMTo:
ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: SAN
Assessment
As someone else mentioned, when sizing a SAN for Exchange you are more
concerned about performance than the size of the storage. That means that
although you need to make sure you have enough disk space, more important is
ensuring that the number of disks you get will meet the performance needs of
your Exchange solution.
To get that performance number can be fairly involved and deals with
getting performance data from your existing Exchange installation (if you have
one), or doing some calculations based on assumptions if you don't have
Exchange. Anyone who is experienced with sizing Exchange solutions on a SAN will
have the knowledge to help you out with those assumptions. It will likely also
involved doing validation of the performance you expect to get from the SAN once
it is in place. This is important because you may find ways to improve
performance even more by tweaking some configuration on the server or SAN, but
more importantly you may find performance bottle necks that you can fix prior to
going to production.
Depending on the size of your Exchange environment and how complex it is
that performance testing could go on for 4-6 weeks. Longer if it is an
incredibly complex environment (Geo-clusters etc.)
Phil
On 9/22/05, Lawana
Gibson LawanaGibson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Good
mornin',We have a SAN environment within our library. We're
running a FC4500with 1.2 TB of disk space. I have seven servers
connected to the SAN and a PowerVault 136T Tape Library. We had
Dell (we're a Dell shop)come in and assess our environment; we made the
decision on how muchdisk space we needed, etc. So basically
they took our specificationsand produced a system (hardware, mgmt
software, HBA). We had theminstall a "turn key" system so all
we had to do was start moving dataover to the disks (or
LUNS). BUT....you have to be very careful and make sure they
are giving you the most current equipment; they are notselling you mgmt
software that will not work with your serverenvironment....basically make
sure they know your network. Make sureyour sales/technical
accountant is aware of when your equipment comes in, who they sent to
install the equipment, etc. Have them/make themdocument
everything! I have horror stories related to our
SANinstallation, but once I finally complained loud enough (and
wethreatened not to pay them) they sent someone out to reconfigure our
system. We are now in the phase of upgrading our SAN
environment...as amatter of fact I'm meeting with them next
week. If I had one thing towarn you or suggest...make sure YOU
are aware of what you're getting as far as software, HBAs and drivers, SAN
management software, etc.Because if you don't know, you could be stuck
with a monster on yourhands.-----Original Message-----From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Devan PalaSent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 10:04 AMTo:
ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject:
[ActiveDir] OT: SAN AssessmentHi,We're in the process of
planning to migrate from Notes to Exchange andonethe dependenices of
this migration is a SAN environment.Has anyone utilized the services
of any independent consulting bodies tocarry out a SAN assessment.
Essentially, helping in the process ofdetermining requirements and laying
out a path to successful deployment withconsiderations for high
availability, scalability and
futureconsiderations.Thanks,List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspxList
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| aricbernard
Posts:4
 | | 09/22/2005 5:06 AM |
| Lawana provides some really great advice here. I found the URL for a
document that covers a lot of the point spoken of in the message above.
Even though it does include references to specific hardware platforms
(as examples) it contains a lot of really good information that may be
of value to you.
The document is "free" but you do need to have an "HP Passport" to get
at it (you can get this quickly and easily when attempting to access the
URL).
http://h71019.www7.hp.com/activeanswers/Secure/111015-0-0-0-121.html
Aric
-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lawana Gibson
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 7:23 AM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: SAN Assessment
Good mornin',
We have a SAN environment within our library. We're running a FC4500
with 1.2 TB of disk space. I have seven servers connected to the SAN
and a PowerVault 136T Tape Library. We had Dell (we're a Dell shop)
come in and assess our environment; we made the decision on how much
disk space we needed, etc. So basically they took our specifications
and produced a system (hardware, mgmt software, HBA). We had them
install a "turn key" system so all we had to do was start moving data
over to the disks (or LUNS). BUT....you have to be very careful and
make sure they are giving you the most current equipment; they are not
selling you mgmt software that will not work with your server
environment....basically make sure they know your network. Make sure
your sales/technical accountant is aware of when your equipment comes
in, who they sent to install the equipment, etc. Have them/make them
document everything! I have horror stories related to our SAN
installation, but once I finally complained loud enough (and we
threatened not to pay them) they sent someone out to reconfigure our
system. We are now in the phase of upgrading our SAN environment...as a
matter of fact I'm meeting with them next week. If I had one thing to
warn you or suggest...make sure YOU are aware of what you're getting as
far as software, HBAs and drivers, SAN management software, etc.
Because if you don't know, you could be stuck with a monster on your
hands.
-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Devan Pala
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 10:04 AM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: SAN Assessment
Hi,
We're in the process of planning to migrate from Notes to Exchange and
one
the dependenices of this migration is a SAN environment.
Has anyone utilized the services of any independent consulting bodies to
carry out a SAN assessment. Essentially, helping in the process of
determining requirements and laying out a path to successful deployment
with
considerations for high availability, scalability and future
considerations.
Thanks, List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
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| prenouf
Posts:2
 | | 09/22/2005 5:57 AM |
| Just make sure that the people you are dealing with at your SAN vendor have specific knowledge about running Exchange on the SAN because as Al said, it does have some nuances.
Phil
On 9/22/05, Al Mulnick wrote:
LOL. I'm laughing because a company I used to get paid by thought that's how long it would take as well (I spec'd the project, and budgeted 7 weeks of lab for the environment and was being overly aggressive for that; another story.) How long was the actual? Don't know becuase of the politics surrounding the implementation, the engineering was influenced by outsided entities that munged it all up and it's still not quite done. At one point I offered to host 4K user density Exchange clusters on iPaq devices clustered with a bluetooth piconet. Shame they didn't take me up on that ;)
I can say that a general principal for Exchange sizing is to focus on the attaining the desired performance level first and the space second. Exchange is highly disk dependent for performance especially as you scale up in db size and user density.
As for sizing, you also generally want to work with restoration times (restoration of data, service, etc) and work backwards to derive your density that you need to achieve and then play that back to the disk subsystem and layout. Exchange is spindle hungry for most SAN implementations, very similar to other two-phase commit database applications. There are some nuances to be aware of, but basically the same concept applies.
Lawana is absolutely correct in how to get the proper configuration and how important it is. Some SAN vendors I've dealt with include that evaluation and supported configuration service in the maintenance. Something to check on. I have ALWAYS gone back to the SAN vendor to get the thumbs up on the configuration prior to even testing. Saves a lot of time that way.
My 0.035 anyway.
ajm
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Phil RenoufSent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 11:21 AMTo:
ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: SAN Assessment As someone else mentioned, when sizing a SAN for Exchange you are more concerned about performance than the size of the storage. That means that although you need to make sure you have enough disk space, more important is ensuring that the number of disks you get will meet the performance needs of your Exchange solution.
To get that performance number can be fairly involved and deals with getting performance data from your existing Exchange installation (if you have one), or doing some calculations based on assumptions if you don't have Exchange. Anyone who is experienced with sizing Exchange solutions on a SAN will have the knowledge to help you out with those assumptions. It will likely also involved doing validation of the performance you expect to get from the SAN once it is in place. This is important because you may find ways to improve performance even more by tweaking some configuration on the server or SAN, but more importantly you may find performance bottle necks that you can fix prior to going to production.
Depending on the size of your Exchange environment and how complex it is that performance testing could go on for 4-6 weeks. Longer if it is an incredibly complex environment (Geo-clusters etc.)
Phil
On 9/22/05, Lawana Gibson wrote:
Good mornin',We have a SAN environment within our library. We're running a FC4500with 1.2 TB of disk space. I have seven servers connected to the SAN
and a PowerVault 136T Tape Library. We had Dell (we're a Dell shop)come in and assess our environment; we made the decision on how muchdisk space we needed, etc. So basically they took our specifications
and produced a system (hardware, mgmt software, HBA). We had theminstall a "turn key" system so all we had to do was start moving dataover to the disks (or LUNS). BUT....you have to be very careful and
make sure they are giving you the most current equipment; they are notselling you mgmt software that will not work with your serverenvironment....basically make sure they know your network. Make sureyour sales/technical accountant is aware of when your equipment comes
in, who they sent to install the equipment, etc. Have them/make themdocument everything! I have horror stories related to our SANinstallation, but once I finally complained loud enough (and wethreatened not to pay them) they sent someone out to reconfigure our
system. We are now in the phase of upgrading our SAN environment...as amatter of fact I'm meeting with them next week. If I had one thing towarn you or suggest...make sure YOU are aware of what you're getting as
far as software, HBAs and drivers, SAN management software, etc.Because if you don't know, you could be stuck with a monster on yourhands.-----Original Message-----From:
ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Devan Pala
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 10:04 AMTo: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [ActiveDir] OT: SAN Assessment
Hi,We're in the process of planning to migrate from Notes to Exchange andonethe dependenices of this migration is a SAN environment.Has anyone utilized the services of any independent consulting bodies to
carry out a SAN assessment. Essentially, helping in the process ofdetermining requirements and laying out a path to successful deployment withconsiderations for high availability, scalability and future
considerations.Thanks,List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspxList FAQ :
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| prenouf
Posts:2
 | | 09/22/2005 12:30 PM |
| If the HP guys have good Exchange experience then that is cool, but they will still be vendor specific. I know that MCS does a lot of Exchange SAN sizing and MCS isn't vendor specific so they won't really care what storage vendor you go with. There are different quirks to each storage vendors solutions that will impact your SAN design so getting someone who is knowledgable on SAN and Exchange configuration is essential.
MCS isn't always cheap, but when it comes to a project like Exchange with a SAN backend I think it's worth it. Whoever you choose to go with, just make sure that they have Exchange expertise to go along with the SAN expertise.
Phil
Note: for some reason I feel the need to admit that I do work for MCS, so I suppose you can take this with a grain of sand, especially since I do Exchange ;)
On 9/21/05, Bernard, Aric wrote:
And if you do have or considering HP SAN equipment, call you HPrepresentative and let them know you need help with capacity planning
and configuration for your SAN for Exchange. Most of the folks at HPinvolved with this kind of activity follow Pierre's (an HP employee)methodology and best practices.In many cases they can provide assistance at little or no direct cost to
you.Aric-----Original Message-----From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx[mailto:
ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Coleman, HunterSent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 3:20 PMTo: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: SAN Assessment
If you have the time, pick up a copy of Pierre Bijaoui's "ScalingMicrosoft Exchange 2000." I don't think it's been updated for Exchange2003, but most everything he covers in there carries forward. It's very
good information on building storage infrastructure for Exchange,including SANs.It may not replace a consulting engagement, but it will give you enoughbackground to understand (and question) any recommendations.
-----Original Message-----From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
] On Behalf Of Devan PalaSent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 4:00 PMTo: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: SAN AssessmentWell we don't have a preferred vendor. We're looking at all the obvious
choices: HP, EMC, StorageTek (SUN) etc.Right now its more important to just get an independent (non-vendorspecific) assessment carried out.Thanks,"Firefox - Rediscover the web "
----Original Message Follows----From: "Bernard, Aric" Reply-To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: SAN AssessmentDate: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 14:25:57 -0400Yep, lots of consulting firms do his sort of work. Who is the SAN
vendor? Typically they will be happy to come out and help with thiskind of activity as it usually means additional sales now or in thefuture.Aric-----Original Message-----From:
ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Brian DesmondSent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 10:45 AMTo:
ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: SAN AssessmentI work for a consulting firm that does these sorts of things, so, yes Iknow people utilize consulting firms to do this stuff. :)
Thanks,Brian Desmondbrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxc - 312.731.3132-----Original Message-----From:
ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Devan PalaSent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 11:04 AMTo:
ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [ActiveDir] OT: SAN AssessmentHi,We're in the process of planning to migrate from Notes to Exchange andone the dependenices of this migration is a SAN environment.
Has anyone utilized the services of any independent consulting bodies tocarry out a SAN assessment. Essentially, helping in the process ofdetermining requirements and laying out a path to successful deployment
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