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michael@xxxx.yyy
 | | 09/22/2005 11:00 AM |
| I'm an Exchange MVP. We were invited to come up with a list of "why we
hate to support SBS" about a month ago for submission to the SBS product
team (apparently one of "our" product managers is across the hall from
one of "your" product managers). I think we came up with 11 specific
items dealing mainly with Exchange/User management and the integration
of ISA/RRAS. I'll see if I archived the list.
I think the groups and the mailing lists are gonna be really quiet next
week, with little connectivity on campus for us!
-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley,
CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 4:31 PM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] SBS migration (was SBS Server Question)
Amen brother.
I wish though you would be more specific though as I just happen to be
meeting with some folks next week and would love the inside from big
server land. [Please feel free to ping me directly]
Our OU structure sucks. We know that. But ...boy ... you ain't ripping
my fingers off RWW or my monitoring email. :-)
Michael B. Smith wrote:
>And that is a real difficulty.
>
>The wizards should integrate seamlessly. Or the other tools should
>integrate seamlessly. Take your pick.
>
>I've got a couple of hundred client companies, probably 3 or 4 use SBS.
>I HATE touching the SBS clients because it's a fair bet there is a
>wizard for something that I'm not going to use a wizard for, because I
>can use one of my scripts or a native tool and do it quicker. (You can
>argue that someone that knows the wizards can do it more quickly with
>them -- and that's fine -- but I don't, and shouldn't have to.)
>
>It's a religious issue.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley,
>CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
>Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 12:19 PM
>To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] SBS migration (was SBS Server Question)
>
>Difficulty?
>
>
>
>What difficulty? [please feel free to take this offline] the only
>difficult issues we have in SBSland is cleaning up the messes from
>folks that don't follow the wizards....
>
>al_maurer@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
>
>
>>Thanks! This must be SBS Week. Was at a user's group meeting last
>>
>>
>night and the topic came up again. (Main topic was R2) Sounds like
>Microsoft is getting the message about the difficulty of working with
>SBS.
>
>
>>Al Maurer
>>Service Manager, Naming and Authentication Services IT | Information
>>Technology Agilent Technologies
>>(719) 590-2639; Telnet 590-2639
>>http://activedirectory.it.agilent.com
>>----------------------------------------------
>>"Cry 'Havoc!' and let slip the dogs of war" - Anthony, in Julius
>>
>>
>Caesar III i.
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Susan
>>Bradley,
>>
>>
>
>
>
>>CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
>>Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 1:57 PM
>>To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] SBS migration (was SBS Server Question)
>>
>>Transition pack or www.sbsmigration.com
>>
>>Transition pack is the best way however lets you keep the Remote web
>>workplace and monitoring email even after you break away from SBSland.
>>
>>al_maurer@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
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>>>OK, since the topic came up: I'm trying to figure out how to migrate
>>>
>>>
>off SBS2003.
>
>
>>>Scenario is a recent acquisition where we want to migrate from
>>>company
>>>
>>>
>SBS to corporate AD (standard 2003 domain). Trusts are out. Hack is
>both dangerous and illegal.
>
>
>>>MS offers a Transition Pack (for a cost) to upgrade the SBS2003 to
>>>
>>>
>normal AD. Is there any other way? LDIF export?
>
>
>>>Thanks,
>>>AL
>>>
>>>Al Maurer
>>>Service Manager, Naming and Authentication Services IT | Information
>>>Technology Agilent Technologies
>>>(719) 590-2639; Telnet 590-2639
>>>http://activedirectory.it.agilent.com
>>>----------------------------------------------
>>>"Cry 'Havoc!' and let slip the dogs of war" - Anthony, in Julius
>>>
>>>
>Caesar III i.
>
>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Susan
>>>Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
>>>Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 12:06 PM
>>>To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] SBS Server Question
>>>
>>>Nope. No trusts, no forests. We're the spoiled only PDC that must
>>>hold all the FSMO roles. We can do some funky stuff with pass
>>>through
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>>>authentication, but no trusts.
>>>
>>>US versus THEM:
>>>http://www.sbslinks.com/Us_v_them.htm
>>>
>>>In SBS 2000/2003 the 'correct' terminology is Yes, an 'additional
>>>domain controller' is supported and not calling it a BDC.
>>>
>>>Member servers are covered by the SBS cals but last I read in the PUR
>>>the additional DC would need server cals. [that's my interpretation
>>>anyway but I get a headache reading that doc in the first place]
>>>
>>>Honestly ...keep in mind that with XPs, they will used cached
>>>credentials and you can log into that profile even if the network is
>>>down. Now comes the fun... who's doing the DHCP? The recommended way
>>>is to have the SBS box to do that...so you still have fun. If the
>>>SBS
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>>>box goes down, I normally have ways around the temporarily failure
>>>[and even then I can count on one hand the time my network has been
>>>
>>>
>affected....
>
>
>>>power mostly, then NICs, then switches, and one harddrive falling off
>>>a RAID. Get good equipment [and honestly either reinstall those OEMs
>>>and stay away from those preinstalled versions] and we do just fine.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Medeiros, Jose wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi Susan,
>>>>
>>>>Since we have an SBS MVP on the Active Dir list, let me ask a
>>>>
>>>>
>question.
>
>
>>>>Can I now make an SBS 2003 server a child domain in an AD 2003
>>>>
>>>>
>forest?
>
>
>>>>Before you ask why, some one asked me this recently at a Linux users
>>>>
>>>>
>group meeting, as his company has several remote offices using SBS
2003.
>
>
>>>>Also on SBS 4.5, one could have a BDC as a backup, can this also be
>>>>
>>>>
>done with a DC or are you " Sh.T out of luck " when a box fails?
>
>
>>>>Jose
>>>>
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