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09/22/2005 11:14 AM  
Very Cool. I would love to see that list :-)

Wireless aircard and a tablet PC...you just gotta bring your own
connectivity that's all.
See ya next week!

Michael B. Smith wrote:
I'm an Exchange MVP. We were invited to come up with a list of "why we
hate to support SBS" about a month ago for submission to the SBS product
team (apparently one of "our" product managers is across the hall from
one of "your" product managers). I think we came up with 11 specific
items dealing mainly with Exchange/User management and the integration
of ISA/RRAS. I'll see if I archived the list.

I think the groups and the mailing lists are gonna be really quiet next
week, with little connectivity on campus for us!

-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley,
CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 4:31 PM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] SBS migration (was SBS Server Question)

Amen brother.

I wish though you would be more specific though as I just happen to be
meeting with some folks next week and would love the inside from big
server land. [Please feel free to ping me directly]

Our OU structure sucks. We know that. But ...boy ... you ain't ripping
my fingers off RWW or my monitoring email. :-)

Michael B. Smith wrote:


And that is a real difficulty.

The wizards should integrate seamlessly. Or the other tools should
integrate seamlessly. Take your pick.
I've got a couple of hundred client companies, probably 3 or 4 use SBS.
I HATE touching the SBS clients because it's a fair bet there is a
wizard for something that I'm not going to use a wizard for, because I
can use one of my scripts or a native tool and do it quicker. (You can
argue that someone that knows the wizards can do it more quickly with
them -- and that's fine -- but I don't, and shouldn't have to.)
It's a religious issue.

-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley,



CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 12:19 PM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] SBS migration (was SBS Server Question)

Difficulty?

What difficulty? [please feel free to take this offline] the only
difficult issues we have in SBSland is cleaning up the messes from
folks that don't follow the wizards....
al_maurer@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:


Thanks! This must be SBS Week. Was at a user's group meeting last




night and the topic came up again. (Main topic was R2) Sounds like
Microsoft is getting the message about the difficulty of working with
SBS.


Al Maurer
Service Manager, Naming and Authentication Services IT | Information
Technology Agilent Technologies

(719) 590-2639; Telnet 590-2639
http://activedirectory.it.agilent.com
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"Cry 'Havoc!' and let slip the dogs of war" - Anthony, in Julius




Caesar III i.


-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Susan
Bradley,






CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 1:57 PM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] SBS migration (was SBS Server Question)

Transition pack or www.sbsmigration.com

Transition pack is the best way however lets you keep the Remote web
workplace and monitoring email even after you break away from SBSland.
al_maurer@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:




OK, since the topic came up: I'm trying to figure out how to migrate



off SBS2003.


Scenario is a recent acquisition where we want to migrate from
company




SBS to corporate AD (standard 2003 domain). Trusts are out. Hack is
both dangerous and illegal.


MS offers a Transition Pack (for a cost) to upgrade the SBS2003 to



normal AD. Is there any other way? LDIF export?

Thanks,
AL

Al Maurer
Service Manager, Naming and Authentication Services IT | Information
Technology Agilent Technologies

(719) 590-2639; Telnet 590-2639
http://activedirectory.it.agilent.com
----------------------------------------------
"Cry 'Havoc!' and let slip the dogs of war" - Anthony, in Julius




Caesar III i.


-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Susan
Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]

Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 12:06 PM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] SBS Server Question

Nope. No trusts, no forests. We're the spoiled only PDC that must
hold all the FSMO roles. We can do some funky stuff with pass
through






authentication, but no trusts.

US versus THEM:
http://www.sbslinks.com/Us_v_them.htm

In SBS 2000/2003 the 'correct' terminology is Yes, an 'additional
domain controller' is supported and not calling it a BDC.
Member servers are covered by the SBS cals but last I read in the PUR




the additional DC would need server cals. [that's my interpretation
anyway but I get a headache reading that doc in the first place]
Honestly ...keep in mind that with XPs, they will used cached
credentials and you can log into that profile even if the network is
down. Now comes the fun... who's doing the DHCP? The recommended way




is to have the SBS box to do that...so you still have fun. If the
SBS







box goes down, I normally have ways around the temporarily failure
[and even then I can count on one hand the time my network has been



affected....

power mostly, then NICs, then switches, and one harddrive falling off



a RAID. Get good equipment [and honestly either reinstall those OEMs



and stay away from those preinstalled versions] and we do just fine.

Medeiros, Jose wrote:






Hi Susan,

Since we have an SBS MVP on the Active Dir list, let me ask a



question.

Can I now make an SBS 2003 server a child domain in an AD 2003




forest?


Before you ask why, some one asked me this recently at a Linux users



group meeting, as his company has several remote offices using SBS

2003.




Also on SBS 4.5, one could have a BDC as a backup, can this also be




done with a DC or are you " Sh.T out of luck " when a box fails?


Jose
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