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laurarobinson User is Offline

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11/09/2006 6:14 AM
Just out of curiosity, whatmakes people think it's appropriate to refer toMicrosoft as "M$" on an MS-focused mailing list whose participants include Microsoft employees, Microsoft contractors, Microsoft MVPs and various other people who may have a relatively positiveview of Microsoft? Laura From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Jitendra KalyankarSent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:16 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or VBScript? This is the link to M$ to start with...very good info.... http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnanchor/html/scriptinga.asp -- Sincerely,J On 11/9/06, Stu Packett wrote: Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but would like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference between WSH and VBScript, so if anyone could explain that, I'd appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several books on WSH and VBScript, but don't know where I should focus on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of any exist. Thanks in advance.

JerryWCondra User is Offline

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11/09/2006 6:41 AM
I have a mostly positive view of M$ and like their products. Heck, I’m certified in their products. But that doesn’t make them inexpensive and like any other big company they are out to make $. J From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:14 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ Just out of curiosity, whatmakes people think it's appropriate to refer toMicrosoft as "M$" on an MS-focused mailing list whose participants include Microsoft employees, Microsoft contractors, Microsoft MVPs and various other people who may have a relatively positiveview of Microsoft? Laura From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Jitendra Kalyankar Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:16 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or VBScript? This is the link to M$ to start with...very good info.... http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnanchor/html/scriptinga.asp -- Sincerely, J On 11/9/06, Stu Packett wrote: Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but would like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference between WSH and VBScript, so if anyone could explain that, I'd appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several books on WSH and VBScript, but don't know where I should focus on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of any exist. Thanks in advance.

cardonav@xxxx.yyy

11/09/2006 7:30 AM
v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } I believe we all know that your statement is correct “like any other big company they are out to make $”, what I inferred from what she was implying (did I get that right?J) is that although we all know that Microsoft is not perfect (…anyone want to cast the first stone?)…a grey-toned comment made on this mailing list is probably not appreciated…especially when this mailing list is used to help others. I’m sure there are a myriad of other forums to take your personal opinions to. --vC From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Condra, Jerry W Mr HP Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:41 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ I have a mostly positive view of M$ and like their products. Heck, I’m certified in their products. But that doesn’t make them inexpensive and like any other big company they are out to make $. J From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:14 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ Just out of curiosity, whatmakes people think it's appropriate to refer toMicrosoft as "M$" on an MS-focused mailing list whose participants include Microsoft employees, Microsoft contractors, Microsoft MVPs and various other people who may have a relatively positiveview of Microsoft? Laura From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Jitendra Kalyankar Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:16 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or VBScript? This is the link to M$ to start with...very good info.... http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnanchor/html/scriptinga.asp -- Sincerely, J On 11/9/06, Stu Packett wrote: Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but would like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference between WSH and VBScript, so if anyone could explain that, I'd appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several books on WSH and VBScript, but don't know where I should focus on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of any exist. Thanks in advance.

sbradcpa

Posts:317

11/09/2006 7:59 AM
Some MVPs use that as well and when asked say they don't realize that it offends and just use it as slang. But yeah if it's meant to imply that Microsoft is rolling in dough.. folks go grab the 10K... and stop looking at the cash account only, offset that with the accounts receivable and then go read the "Risk" analysis section of that annual report. It's an interesting read. I honestly get more tired of the "oh but they have billions in the bank" comments. (is that before the liabilities or after?) BTW...After the Novell deal can we start using $u$e now? :-) Laura A. Robinson wrote: > Just out of curiosity, what makes people think it's appropriate to > refer to Microsoft as "M$" on an MS-focused mailing list whose > participants include Microsoft employees, Microsoft contractors, > Microsoft MVPs and various other people who may have a relatively > positive view of Microsoft? > > Laura > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org > [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of > Jitendra Kalyankar > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:16 AM > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or > VBScript? > > This is the link to M$ to start with...very good info.... > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnanchor/html/scriptinga.asp > > > -- > Sincerely, > J > > > On 11/9/06, Stu Packett > wrote: > > Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on > this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I > knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but > would like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's > book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference > between WSH and VBScript, so if anyone could explain that, I'd > appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several > books on WSH and VBScript, but don't know where I should focus > on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of > any exist. Thanks in advance. > > > -- Letting your vendors set your risk analysis these days? http://www.threatcode.com If you are a SBSer and you don't subscribe to the SBS Blog... man ... I will hunt you down... http://blogs.technet.com/sbs List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/

sbradcpa

Posts:317

11/09/2006 8:10 AM
(okay how embarrassing is it when I meant to say "Accounts payables" rather than "Accounts receivable") Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] wrote: > Some MVPs use that as well and when asked say they don't realize that > it offends and just use it as slang. But yeah if it's meant to imply > that Microsoft is rolling in dough.. folks go grab the 10K... and stop > looking at the cash account only, offset that with the accounts > receivable and then go read the "Risk" analysis section of that annual > report. It's an interesting read. > > I honestly get more tired of the "oh but they have billions in the > bank" comments. (is that before the liabilities or after?) > > BTW...After the Novell deal can we start using $u$e now? :-) > > Laura A. Robinson wrote: >> Just out of curiosity, what makes people think it's appropriate to >> refer to Microsoft as "M$" on an MS-focused mailing list whose >> participants include Microsoft employees, Microsoft contractors, >> Microsoft MVPs and various other people who may have a relatively >> positive view of Microsoft? >> >> Laura >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org >> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of >> Jitendra Kalyankar >> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:16 AM >> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org >> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or >> VBScript? >> >> This is the link to M$ to start with...very good info.... >> >> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnanchor/html/scriptinga.asp >> >> >> -- Sincerely, >> J >> >> On 11/9/06, Stu Packett > > wrote: >> >> Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on >> this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I >> knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but >> would like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's >> book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference >> between WSH and VBScript, so if anyone could explain that, I'd >> appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several >> books on WSH and VBScript, but don't know where I should focus >> on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of >> any exist. Thanks in advance. >> >> >> > -- Letting your vendors set your risk analysis these days? http://www.threatcode.com If you are a SBSer and you don't subscribe to the SBS Blog... man ... I will hunt you down... http://blogs.technet.com/sbs List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/

efleis1

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11/09/2006 8:11 AM
v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } Not that I really care if people say M$ or not, but I thought I’d comment on one thing, in the name of full disclosure…. My participation on this list has __nothing__ to do with money. I don’t get compensated on any level for this. Heck, I don’t even work on AD anymore, so this is like 2 degrees of separation away from anything that MS compensates me for. So, is MS out to make $? Sure. Is AD part of that money-making strategy? Sure. Does that have anything to do with MS employee participation on this list? I don’t think so. Others (at least those that I can recall posting here as I type this mail) on this list fall in to the same boat. A couple of them don’t work on AD anymore either. Why do I hang out here? I do it because I care about customers and about AD/ADAM. It has nothing to do with my salary. It’s also why I still blog about AD, answer newsgroup questions, answer internal questions (DLs, PSS, MCS, other PGs, etc.), handle direct emails from a myriad of non-MS people (some I know, some are totally out of the blue), fix code for people that ask for help, etc. I don’t get paid for any of this. ~Eric Borg #145719302 whole mail is a lie and “the man” actually wrote it on behalf of the fake employee that goes by Eric Fleischman> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Vinnie Cardona Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:30 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ I believe we all know that your statement is correct “like any other big company they are out to make $”, what I inferred from what she was implying (did I get that right?J) is that although we all know that Microsoft is not perfect (…anyone want to cast the first stone?)…a grey-toned comment made on this mailing list is probably not appreciated…especially when this mailing list is used to help others. I’m sure there are a myriad of other forums to take your personal opinions to. --vC From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Condra, Jerry W Mr HP Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:41 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ I have a mostly positive view of M$ and like their products. Heck, I’m certified in their products. But that doesn’t make them inexpensive and like any other big company they are out to make $. J From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:14 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ Just out of curiosity, whatmakes people think it's appropriate to refer toMicrosoft as "M$" on an MS-focused mailing list whose participants include Microsoft employees, Microsoft contractors, Microsoft MVPs and various other people who may have a relatively positiveview of Microsoft? Laura From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Jitendra Kalyankar Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:16 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or VBScript? This is the link to M$ to start with...very good info.... http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnanchor/html/scriptinga.asp -- Sincerely, J On 11/9/06, Stu Packett wrote: Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but would like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference between WSH and VBScript, so if anyone could explain that, I'd appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several books on WSH and VBScript, but don't know where I should focus on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of any exist. Thanks in advance.

rwf4

Posts:10

11/09/2006 8:24 AM
I never use that moniker but how about a positive spin...people use it because the co-founders are always on the short list of top U.S. philanthropists ? :-) ________________________________ From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:14 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ Just out of curiosity, what makes people think it's appropriate to refer to Microsoft as "M$" on an MS-focused mailing list whose participants include Microsoft employees, Microsoft contractors, Microsoft MVPs and various other people who may have a relatively positive view of Microsoft? Laura ________________________________ From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Jitendra Kalyankar Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:16 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or VBScript? This is the link to M$ to start with...very good info.... http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnancho r/html/scriptinga.asp -- Sincerely, J On 11/9/06, Stu Packett wrote: Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but would like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference between WSH and VBScript, so if anyone could explain that, I'd appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several books on WSH and VBScript, but don't know where I should focus on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of any exist. Thanks in advance. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/

AD00000764 User is Offline

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11/09/2006 8:32 AM
Re: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ Hey Susan, not quite sure what report you were looking at, but their FY06 10-K shows a net income of $12.6B with EPS of $1.21 and cash dividends of $0.35/common share ... it also shows a positive cash flow of $6.7B ... I'm no CPA, but I'm pretty sure that means they won't be filing for bankruptcy protection anytime soon. :) And speaking of AP/AR, as of that filing, they had $2.9B outstanding in AP and $2.0B in AR for a net difference of $900M ... once again, I would hardly say it's time to raise the red flag... :) From: Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] [mailto:sbradcpa@pacbell.net]Sent: Thu 11/9/2006 3:10 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ (okay how embarrassing is it when I meant to say "Accounts payables"rather than "Accounts receivable")Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] wrote:> Some MVPs use that as well and when asked say they don't realize that> it offends and just use it as slang. But yeah if it's meant to imply> that Microsoft is rolling in dough.. folks go grab the 10K... and stop> looking at the cash account only, offset that with the accounts> receivable and then go read the "Risk" analysis section of that annual> report. It's an interesting read.>> I honestly get more tired of the "oh but they have billions in the> bank" comments. (is that before the liabilities or after?)>> BTW...After the Novell deal can we start using $u$e now? :-)>> Laura A. Robinson wrote:>> Just out of curiosity, what makes people think it's appropriate to>> refer to Microsoft as "M$" on an MS-focused mailing list whose>> participants include Microsoft employees, Microsoft contractors,>> Microsoft MVPs and various other people who may have a relatively>> positive view of Microsoft?>>>> Laura>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------>> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org>> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of>> Jitendra Kalyankar>> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:16 AM>> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org>> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or>> VBScript?>>>> This is the link to M$ to start with...very good info....>>>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnanchor/html/scriptinga.asp>>>>>> -- Sincerely,>> J>>>> On 11/9/06, Stu Packett >> wrote:>>>> Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on>> this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I>> knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but>> would like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's>> book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference>> between WSH and VBScript, so if anyone could explain that, I'd>> appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several>> books on WSH and VBScript, but don't know where I should focus>> on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of>> any exist. Thanks in advance.>>>>>>>--Letting your vendors set your risk analysis these days?http://www.threatcode.comIf you are a SBSer and you don't subscribe to the SBS Blog... man ... I will hunt you down...http://blogs.technet.com/sbsList info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspxList FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspxList archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited.

kevinbrunson User is Offline

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11/09/2006 8:44 AM
v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } Wow, “the man” is busier than I thought. Who would know he would have time to make trillions on software, crush all competition, plot the destruction of Europe (stupid anti-trust), and still answer email. There must be more than one “the man”. J From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Eric Fleischman Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 2:11 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ Not that I really care if people say M$ or not, but I thought I’d comment on one thing, in the name of full disclosure…. My participation on this list has __nothing__ to do with money. I don’t get compensated on any level for this. Heck, I don’t even work on AD anymore, so this is like 2 degrees of separation away from anything that MS compensates me for. So, is MS out to make $? Sure. Is AD part of that money-making strategy? Sure. Does that have anything to do with MS employee participation on this list? I don’t think so. Others (at least those that I can recall posting here as I type this mail) on this list fall in to the same boat. A couple of them don’t work on AD anymore either. Why do I hang out here? I do it because I care about customers and about AD/ADAM. It has nothing to do with my salary. It’s also why I still blog about AD, answer newsgroup questions, answer internal questions (DLs, PSS, MCS, other PGs, etc.), handle direct emails from a myriad of non-MS people (some I know, some are totally out of the blue), fix code for people that ask for help, etc. I don’t get paid for any of this. ~Eric Borg #145719302 whole mail is a lie and “the man” actually wrote it on behalf of the fake employee that goes by Eric Fleischman> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Vinnie Cardona Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:30 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ I believe we all know that your statement is correct “like any other big company they are out to make $”, what I inferred from what she was implying (did I get that right?J) is that although we all know that Microsoft is not perfect (…anyone want to cast the first stone?)…a grey-toned comment made on this mailing list is probably not appreciated…especially when this mailing list is used to help others. I’m sure there are a myriad of other forums to take your personal opinions to. --vC From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Condra, Jerry W Mr HP Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:41 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ I have a mostly positive view of M$ and like their products. Heck, I’m certified in their products. But that doesn’t make them inexpensive and like any other big company they are out to make $. J From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:14 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ Just out of curiosity, whatmakes people think it's appropriate to refer toMicrosoft as "M$" on an MS-focused mailing list whose participants include Microsoft employees, Microsoft contractors, Microsoft MVPs and various other people who may have a relatively positiveview of Microsoft? Laura From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Jitendra Kalyankar Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:16 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or VBScript? This is the link to M$ to start with...very good info.... http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnanchor/html/scriptinga.asp -- Sincerely, J On 11/9/06, Stu Packett wrote: Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but would like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference between WSH and VBScript, so if anyone could explain that, I'd appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several books on WSH and VBScript, but don't know where I should focus on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of any exist. Thanks in advance.

sbradcpa

Posts:317

11/09/2006 9:18 AM
Keep reading down to the risk factors...... :-) Merry, Joel (US - Philadelphia) wrote: > Hey Susan, not quite sure what report you were looking at, but their > FY06 10-K shows a net income of $12.6B with EPS of $1.21 and cash > dividends of $0.35/common share ... it also shows a positive cash flow > of $6.7B ... I'm no CPA, but I'm pretty sure that means they won't be > filing for bankruptcy protection anytime soon. :) And speaking of > AP/AR, as of that filing, they had $2.9B outstanding in AP and $2.0B > in AR for a net difference of $900M ... once again, I would hardly say > it's time to raise the red flag... :) > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From: Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] > [mailto:sbradcpa@pacbell.net] > Sent: Thu 11/9/2006 3:10 PM > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ > > (okay how embarrassing is it when I meant to say "Accounts payables" > rather than "Accounts receivable") > > Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] wrote: > > Some MVPs use that as well and when asked say they don't realize that > > it offends and just use it as slang. But yeah if it's meant to imply > > that Microsoft is rolling in dough.. folks go grab the 10K... and stop > > looking at the cash account only, offset that with the accounts > > receivable and then go read the "Risk" analysis section of that annual > > report. It's an interesting read. > > > > I honestly get more tired of the "oh but they have billions in the > > bank" comments. (is that before the liabilities or after?) > > > > BTW...After the Novell deal can we start using $u$e now? :-) > > > > Laura A. Robinson wrote: > >> Just out of curiosity, what makes people think it's appropriate to > >> refer to Microsoft as "M$" on an MS-focused mailing list whose > >> participants include Microsoft employees, Microsoft contractors, > >> Microsoft MVPs and various other people who may have a relatively > >> positive view of Microsoft? > >> > >> Laura > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org > >> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of > >> Jitendra Kalyankar > >> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:16 AM > >> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > >> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or > >> VBScript? > >> > >> This is the link to M$ to start with...very good info.... > >> > >> > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnanchor/html/scriptinga.asp > >> > >> > >> -- Sincerely, > >> J > >> > >> On 11/9/06, Stu Packett >> > wrote: > >> > >> Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on > >> this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I > >> knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but > >> would like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's > >> book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference > >> between WSH and VBScript, so if anyone could explain that, I'd > >> appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several > >> books on WSH and VBScript, but don't know where I should focus > >> on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of > >> any exist. Thanks in advance. > >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > Letting your vendors set your risk analysis these days? > http://www.threatcode.com > > If you are a SBSer and you don't subscribe to the SBS Blog... man ... > I will hunt you down... > http://blogs.technet.com/sbs > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ > > > This message (including any attachments) contains confidential > information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is > protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should > delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, > copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action > based on it, is strictly prohibited. -- Letting your vendors set your risk analysis these days? http://www.threatcode.com If you are a SBSer and you don't subscribe to the SBS Blog... man ... I will hunt you down... http://blogs.technet.com/sbs List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/

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11/09/2006 9:24 AM
You forgot. He has time to consider the phrase "Save the Cheerleader, Save the World!". But that is another verse I bettya.... Felis demulcta mitis ... Alan G. Monaghan [ MCSE+I - Win4.0/ MCSE - Win2k/ BJCP # C0389(Recognized) Ò¿Ó¬ ] Systems Administrator Gardner Publications, Inc. Phone ...... 1-513-527-8867 Fax ........ 1-513-527-8801 Cell ....... 1-513-378-0919 E-mail ..... AlanM@Gardnerweb.com *URL ........ http://Bullwinkle.GardnerWeb.Com/ >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir- >> owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Brunson >> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 3:44 PM >> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org >> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ >> >> Wow, "the man" is busier than I thought. Who would know he would have >> time to make trillions on software, crush all competition, plot the >> destruction of Europe (stupid anti-trust), and still answer email. There >> must be more than one "the man". :-) >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir- >> owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Eric Fleischman >> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 2:11 PM >> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org >> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ >> >> >> >> Not that I really care if people say M$ or not, but I thought I'd comment >> on one thing, in the name of full disclosure.... >> >> >> >> My participation on this list has __nothing__ to do with money. I don't >> get compensated on any level for this. Heck, I don't even work on AD >> anymore, so this is like 2 degrees of separation away from anything that >> MS compensates me for. >> >> >> >> So, is MS out to make $? Sure. >> >> Is AD part of that money-making strategy? Sure. >> >> Does that have anything to do with MS employee participation on this >> list? I don't think so. Others (at least those that I can recall posting >> here as I type this mail) on this list fall in to the same boat. A couple >> of them don't work on AD anymore either. >> >> >> >> Why do I hang out here? I do it because I care about customers and about >> AD/ADAM. It has nothing to do with my salary. >> >> It's also why I still blog about AD, answer newsgroup questions, answer >> internal questions (DLs, PSS, MCS, other PGs, etc.), handle direct emails >> from a myriad of non-MS people (some I know, some are totally out of the >> blue), fix code for people that ask for help, etc. I don't get paid for >> any of this. >> >> >> >> ~Eric >> >> Borg #145719302 >> >> >> >> >> >> > "the man" actually wrote it on behalf of the fake employee that goes by >> Eric Fleischman> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir- >> owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Vinnie Cardona >> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:30 AM >> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org >> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ >> >> >> >> I believe we all know that your statement is correct "like any other big >> company they are out to make $", what I inferred from what she was >> implying (did I get that right?:-)) is that although we all know that >> Microsoft is not perfect (...anyone want to cast the first stone?)...a grey- >> toned comment made on this mailing list is probably not >> appreciated...especially when this mailing list is used to help others. >> I'm sure there are a myriad of other forums to take your personal >> opinions to. >> >> >> >> >> >> --vC >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir- >> owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Condra, Jerry W Mr HP >> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:41 AM >> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org >> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ >> >> >> >> I have a mostly positive view of M$ and like their products. Heck, I'm >> certified in their products. But that doesn't make them inexpensive and >> like any other big company they are out to make $. :-) >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir- >> owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson >> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:14 PM >> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org >> Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ >> >> >> >> Just out of curiosity, what makes people think it's appropriate to refer >> to Microsoft as "M$" on an MS-focused mailing list whose participants >> include Microsoft employees, Microsoft contractors, Microsoft MVPs and >> various other people who may have a relatively positive view of >> Microsoft? >> >> >> >> Laura >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> >> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir- >> owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Jitendra Kalyankar >> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:16 AM >> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org >> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or >> VBScript? >> >> This is the link to M$ to start with...very good info.... >> >> >> >> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en- >> us/dnanchor/html/scriptinga.asp >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Sincerely, >> J >> >> >> >> On 11/9/06, Stu Packett wrote: >> >> Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on this >> mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to >> script. I have no experience in scripting, but would like to know what >> books do you recommend as a beginner's book on scripting? Also, I don't >> really know the difference between WSH and VBScript, so if anyone could >> explain that, I'd appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw >> several books on WSH and VBScript, but don't know where I should focus on. >> I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of any exist. >> Thanks in advance. >> >> >> >> List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/

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11/09/2006 9:38 AM
v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } > and like any other big company they are out to make $. Every for-profit company is out there to make money, not just big ones. Every one of us who is working for a for-profit company is working for a company who’s primary reason for existence is to make money. And every one of us who is trading our hours for dollars is doing it for the money regardless of whether you love it anyway or not. (if this was a yacht sailing list or a mountaineering list that might not be the case, but being an AD list, I’d pretty confident my statement is true J). Just because Microsoft has made a LOT of money doesn’t make them evil, it makes them successful – something we all strive to be. They’ve also made a significant positive impact on the world, and provide a livelihood for probably half if not more of the members of this list. I think M$ stems from an anti-capitalist, anti-establishment mentality, which is nice for idealists with trust funds but not so nice for people living in such environments (ask someone who lived in an Eastern Block country in the soviet era who wasn’t a big party member). Good point to bring up, Laura, I was thinking the same thing when I saw it initially… ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Milburn MCSE, Microsoft MVP - Directory Services Sr Network Analyst, Field Platform Development Applebee's International, Inc. 4551 W. 107th St Overland Park, KS 66207 913-967-2819 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ”I love the smell of red herrings in the morning” - anonymous From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Condra, Jerry W Mr HP Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:41 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ I have a mostly positive view of M$ and like their products. Heck, I’m certified in their products. But that doesn’t make them inexpensive and like any other big company they are out to make $. J From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:14 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ Just out of curiosity, whatmakes people think it's appropriate to refer toMicrosoft as "M$" on an MS-focused mailing list whose participants include Microsoft employees, Microsoft contractors, Microsoft MVPs and various other people who may have a relatively positiveview of Microsoft? Laura From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Jitendra Kalyankar Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:16 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or VBScript? This is the link to M$ to start with...very good info.... http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnanchor/html/scriptinga.asp -- Sincerely, J On 11/9/06, Stu Packett wrote: Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but would like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference between WSH and VBScript, so if anyone could explain that, I'd appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several books on WSH and VBScript, but don't know where I should focus on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of any exist. Thanks in advance. -------APPLEBEE'S INTERNATIONAL, INC. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE------- PRIVILEGED / CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION may be contained in this message or any attachments. This information is strictly confidential and may be subject to attorney-client privilege. This message is intended only for the use of the named addressee. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, unauthorized forwarding, printing, copying, distribution, or using such information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this in error, you should kindly notify the sender by reply e-mail and immediately destroy this message. Unauthorized interception of this e-mail is a violation of federal criminal law. Applebee's International, Inc. reserves the right to monitor and review the content of all messages sent to and from this e-mail address. Messages sent to or from this e-mail address may be stored on the Applebee's International, Inc. e-mail system.

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11/09/2006 9:58 AM
I didn't honestly see anything in the risk factors of the 10Q that any other software business doesn't declare. I read it as basically saying that Microsoft has competition from various sources that could threaten its business model. That's pretty normal. I think its fair to say, based on the big dividend disbursement they did, I want to say last year, that they have plenty of spare cash. I can see it as being a big dilemma, actually. Typically software companies use their cash, among other things, to do acquisitions. But MS' precarious legal position around the world, I can imagine, makes it really hard to do acquisitions that won't receive endless scrutiny. Not that I'm feeling that sorry for them, but, from the perspective of trying to run and grow the business, I imagine that would frustrate more than one person in Redmond. -----Original Message----- From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 1:19 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ Keep reading down to the risk factors...... :-) Merry, Joel (US - Philadelphia) wrote: > Hey Susan, not quite sure what report you were looking at, but their > FY06 10-K shows a net income of $12.6B with EPS of $1.21 and cash > dividends of $0.35/common share ... it also shows a positive cash flow > of $6.7B ... I'm no CPA, but I'm pretty sure that means they won't be > filing for bankruptcy protection anytime soon. :) And speaking of > AP/AR, as of that filing, they had $2.9B outstanding in AP and $2.0B > in AR for a net difference of $900M ... once again, I would hardly say > it's time to raise the red flag... :) > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > From: Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] > [mailto:sbradcpa@pacbell.net] > Sent: Thu 11/9/2006 3:10 PM > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ > > (okay how embarrassing is it when I meant to say "Accounts payables" > rather than "Accounts receivable") > > Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] wrote: > > Some MVPs use that as well and when asked say they don't realize > > that it offends and just use it as slang. But yeah if it's meant to > > imply that Microsoft is rolling in dough.. folks go grab the 10K... > > and stop looking at the cash account only, offset that with the > > accounts receivable and then go read the "Risk" analysis section of > > that annual report. It's an interesting read. > > > > I honestly get more tired of the "oh but they have billions in the > > bank" comments. (is that before the liabilities or after?) > > > > BTW...After the Novell deal can we start using $u$e now? :-) > > > > Laura A. Robinson wrote: > >> Just out of curiosity, what makes people think it's appropriate to > >> refer to Microsoft as "M$" on an MS-focused mailing list whose > >> participants include Microsoft employees, Microsoft contractors, > >> Microsoft MVPs and various other people who may have a relatively > >> positive view of Microsoft? > >> > >> Laura > >> > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > >> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org > >> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of > >> Jitendra Kalyankar > >> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:16 AM > >> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > >> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or > >> VBScript? > >> > >> This is the link to M$ to start with...very good info.... > >> > >> > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnanc > hor/html/scriptinga.asp > >> > >> > >> -- Sincerely, > >> J > >> > >> On 11/9/06, Stu Packett >> > wrote: > >> > >> Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on > >> this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I > >> knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but > >> would like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's > >> book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference > >> between WSH and VBScript, so if anyone could explain that, I'd > >> appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several > >> books on WSH and VBScript, but don't know where I should focus > >> on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of > >> any exist. Thanks in advance. > >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > Letting your vendors set your risk analysis these days? > http://www.threatcode.com > > If you are a SBSer and you don't subscribe to the SBS Blog... man ... > I will hunt you down... > http://blogs.technet.com/sbs > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ > > > This message (including any attachments) contains confidential > information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is > protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should > delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, > copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action > based on it, is strictly prohibited. -- Letting your vendors set your risk analysis these days? http://www.threatcode.com If you are a SBSer and you don't subscribe to the SBS Blog... man ... I will hunt you down... http://blogs.technet.com/sbs List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/

milburnr

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11/09/2006 10:04 AM
Nice... -----Original Message----- From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Alan Monaghan Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 3:25 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ You forgot. He has time to consider the phrase "Save the Cheerleader, Save the World!". But that is another verse I bettya.... Felis demulcta mitis ... Alan G. Monaghan [ MCSE+I - Win4.0/ MCSE - Win2k/ BJCP # C0389(Recognized) Ò¿Ó¬ ] Systems Administrator Gardner Publications, Inc. Phone ...... 1-513-527-8867 Fax ........ 1-513-527-8801 Cell ....... 1-513-378-0919 E-mail ..... AlanM@Gardnerweb.com *URL ........ http://Bullwinkle.GardnerWeb.Com/ >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir- >> owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Brunson >> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 3:44 PM >> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org >> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ >> >> Wow, "the man" is busier than I thought. Who would know he would have >> time to make trillions on software, crush all competition, plot the >> destruction of Europe (stupid anti-trust), and still answer email. There >> must be more than one "the man". :-) >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir- >> owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Eric Fleischman >> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 2:11 PM >> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org >> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ >> >> >> >> Not that I really care if people say M$ or not, but I thought I'd comment >> on one thing, in the name of full disclosure.... >> >> >> >> My participation on this list has __nothing__ to do with money. I don't >> get compensated on any level for this. Heck, I don't even work on AD >> anymore, so this is like 2 degrees of separation away from anything that >> MS compensates me for. >> >> >> >> So, is MS out to make $? Sure. >> >> Is AD part of that money-making strategy? Sure. >> >> Does that have anything to do with MS employee participation on this >> list? I don't think so. Others (at least those that I can recall posting >> here as I type this mail) on this list fall in to the same boat. A couple >> of them don't work on AD anymore either. >> >> >> >> Why do I hang out here? I do it because I care about customers and about >> AD/ADAM. It has nothing to do with my salary. >> >> It's also why I still blog about AD, answer newsgroup questions, answer >> internal questions (DLs, PSS, MCS, other PGs, etc.), handle direct emails >> from a myriad of non-MS people (some I know, some are totally out of the >> blue), fix code for people that ask for help, etc. I don't get paid for >> any of this. >> >> >> >> ~Eric >> >> Borg #145719302 >> >> >> >> >> >> > "the man" actually wrote it on behalf of the fake employee that goes by >> Eric Fleischman> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir- >> owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Vinnie Cardona >> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:30 AM >> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org >> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ >> >> >> >> I believe we all know that your statement is correct "like any other big >> company they are out to make $", what I inferred from what she was >> implying (did I get that right?:-)) is that although we all know that >> Microsoft is not perfect (...anyone want to cast the first stone?)...a grey- >> toned comment made on this mailing list is probably not >> appreciated...especially when this mailing list is used to help others. >> I'm sure there are a myriad of other forums to take your personal >> opinions to. >> >> >> >> >> >> --vC >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir- >> owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Condra, Jerry W Mr HP >> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:41 AM >> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org >> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ >> >> >> >> I have a mostly positive view of M$ and like their products. Heck, I'm >> certified in their products. But that doesn't make them inexpensive and >> like any other big company they are out to make $. :-) >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir- >> owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson >> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:14 PM >> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org >> Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ >> >> >> >> Just out of curiosity, what makes people think it's appropriate to refer >> to Microsoft as "M$" on an MS-focused mailing list whose participants >> include Microsoft employees, Microsoft contractors, Microsoft MVPs and >> various other people who may have a relatively positive view of >> Microsoft? >> >> >> >> Laura >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> >> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir- >> owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Jitendra Kalyankar >> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:16 AM >> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org >> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or >> VBScript? >> >> This is the link to M$ to start with...very good info.... >> >> >> >> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en- >> us/dnanchor/html/scriptinga.asp >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Sincerely, >> J >> >> >> >> On 11/9/06, Stu Packett wrote: >> >> Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on this >> mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to >> script. I have no experience in scripting, but would like to know what >> books do you recommend as a beginner's book on scripting? Also, I don't >> really know the difference between WSH and VBScript, so if anyone could >> explain that, I'd appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw >> several books on WSH and VBScript, but don't know where I should focus on. >> I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of any exist. >> Thanks in advance. >> >> >> >> List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ -------APPLEBEE'S INTERNATIONAL, INC. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE------- PRIVILEGED / CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION may be contained in this message or any attachments. This information is strictly confidential and may be subject to attorney-client privilege. This message is intended only for the use of the named addressee. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, unauthorized forwarding, printing, copying, distribution, or using such information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this in error, you should kindly notify the sender by reply e-mail and immediately destroy this message. Unauthorized interception of this e-mail is a violation of federal criminal law. Applebee's International, Inc. reserves the right to monitor and review the content of all messages sent to and from this e-mail address. Messages sent to or from this e-mail address may be stored on the Applebee's International, Inc. e-mail system. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/

michael2

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11/09/2006 10:16 AM
I use it fairly commonly. Only several of the lists I frequent, if you use MS, then the Morgan-Stanley people get all up in arms. And typing MSFT is just too long. :-) -----Original Message----- From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Free, Bob Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 3:25 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ I never use that moniker but how about a positive spin...people use it because the co-founders are always on the short list of top U.S. philanthropists ? :-) ________________________________ From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:14 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ Just out of curiosity, what makes people think it's appropriate to refer to Microsoft as "M$" on an MS-focused mailing list whose participants include Microsoft employees, Microsoft contractors, Microsoft MVPs and various other people who may have a relatively positive view of Microsoft? Laura ________________________________ From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Jitendra Kalyankar Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:16 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or VBScript? This is the link to M$ to start with...very good info.... http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnancho r/html/scriptinga.asp -- Sincerely, J On 11/9/06, Stu Packett wrote: Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but would like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference between WSH and VBScript, so if anyone could explain that, I'd appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several books on WSH and VBScript, but don't know where I should focus on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of any exist. Thanks in advance. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/

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11/09/2006 10:34 AM
;o) Always the shit kicker Laura. :) Me... M$ doesn't bother me and I do have a relatively positive view on MSFT (Even Exchange on days that I don't have todeal with it). Not because they are involved with my paycheck in some fashion, if I weren't working on their stuff I would be working on someone else's stuff and still making money. Maybe more, maybe less, can't really tell. If I had to guess, I would probably be paid more and I would be a high end UNIX or application guy and not having to listen to admins tell me how great they are or how amazing they were in their last job while screwing things up in their current job. Then again, I could be pearl diving too, I am pretty good at it, I made a "living" doing it for years and always have it to fall back on. Hopefully the next time I do that though it will be in an eatery that I own. :o) What I do think about this though is that it makes the person who uses it look kind of bad or possibly less intelligent. I try not to look at them bad but I seem to inadvertently toss them into a category I reserve for script kiddies and two bit hackers and OS Bigots (of any religion) and others who consider themselves "L33T" or otherwise too cool for school. Folks that use alternate spelling choices for words are doing their darndest to get me to ignore them because it is a PITA to read something that has all the purposeful misspellings in it. There is too much well written stuff out there to waste your time trying to decode something written so poorly. I think some people do it simply because MSFT is on top and a lot of less skilled and/or less capable people like to make themselves look better or important by trying to knock down or otherwise ridicule thosewho have a higher perceived standing than themselves. I think overall Microsoft has done more for commoditizing the PC industry and standardizing things in it than any other company or group in the world. Without them, I think we would still be in a world of very costly business machines and almost nothing reasonable available for the home. While they may not do things the best, they actually get things out there. Oh yeah, I think as a whole, most MSFT employees are severely underpaid for what they do for Microsoft and the community as a whole. To even it out though, like in any company, there are people in (or were in) MSFT that are/were lucky to even have a job. While I tend to hear a lot of nasty things about MSFT as a company, hearing nasty things about individual employees is not so common. I don't think the company is evil. Much of the time I think that them trying to be purposely evil would be a stretch and tough for their overall method of management and internal communication and something they would have to spend considerable time trying to work at sort of like security... ;o) I think of MSFT mostly as an oversized puppy that tends to accidently step on toes and accidently bite too hard when playing. So anyway, not that I am looking for an apology or think that the guy owes anyone one. I would just give a recommendation to avoidlanguage/spelling like thateven if others are doing it as it is certain to get at least some people to start ignoring them at a minimum. joe -- O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition - http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Laura A. RobinsonSent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 1:14 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ Just out of curiosity, whatmakes people think it's appropriate to refer toMicrosoft as "M$" on an MS-focused mailing list whose participants include Microsoft employees, Microsoft contractors, Microsoft MVPs and various other people who may have a relatively positiveview of Microsoft? Laura From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Jitendra KalyankarSent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:16 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or VBScript? This is the link to M$ to start with...very good info.... http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnanchor/html/scriptinga.asp -- Sincerely,J On 11/9/06, Stu Packett wrote: Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but would like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference between WSH and VBScript, so if anyone could explain that, I'd appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several books on WSH and VBScript, but don't know where I should focus on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of any exist. Thanks in advance.

kevinbrunson User is Offline

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11/09/2006 10:57 AM
I would think that M$ would really fit Morgan Stanley, the financial services company, very well. -----Original Message----- From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 4:17 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ I use it fairly commonly. Only several of the lists I frequent, if you use MS, then the Morgan-Stanley people get all up in arms. And typing MSFT is just too long. :-) -----Original Message----- From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Free, Bob Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 3:25 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ I never use that moniker but how about a positive spin...people use it because the co-founders are always on the short list of top U.S. philanthropists ? :-) ________________________________ From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:14 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ Just out of curiosity, what makes people think it's appropriate to refer to Microsoft as "M$" on an MS-focused mailing list whose participants include Microsoft employees, Microsoft contractors, Microsoft MVPs and various other people who may have a relatively positive view of Microsoft? Laura ________________________________ From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Jitendra Kalyankar Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:16 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or VBScript? This is the link to M$ to start with...very good info.... http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnancho r/html/scriptinga.asp -- Sincerely, J On 11/9/06, Stu Packett wrote: Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but would like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference between WSH and VBScript, so if anyone could explain that, I'd appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several books on WSH and VBScript, but don't know where I should focus on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of any exist. Thanks in advance. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/

sbradcpa

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11/10/2006 1:16 AM
I would argue that there are comparatively few other companies around that have to deal with the Department of Justice and EU quite as much or to quite the same extent on a annual basis. Merry, Joel (US - Philadelphia) wrote: > > I did -- how does that differ from any sort of earth-shattering, > company-crushing problem they, and every other corporation, deal with > on a yearly basis? :) If you give too much credence to that sort of > thing, Chicken Little, you may as well just pack it in and move to the > mountains ... to summarize: same @#$%, different year. :) > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From: Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] > [mailto:sbradcpa@pacbell.net] > Sent: Thu 11/9/2006 4:18 PM > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ > > Keep reading down to the risk factors...... :-) > > Merry, Joel (US - Philadelphia) wrote: > > Hey Susan, not quite sure what report you were looking at, but their > > FY06 10-K shows a net income of $12.6B with EPS of $1.21 and cash > > dividends of $0.35/common share ... it also shows a positive cash flow > > of $6.7B ... I'm no CPA, but I'm pretty sure that means they won't be > > filing for bankruptcy protection anytime soon. :) And speaking of > > AP/AR, as of that filing, they had $2.9B outstanding in AP and $2.0B > > in AR for a net difference of $900M ... once again, I would hardly say > > it's time to raise the red flag... :) > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From: Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] > > [mailto:sbradcpa@pacbell.net] > > Sent: Thu 11/9/2006 3:10 PM > > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > > Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ > > > > (okay how embarrassing is it when I meant to say "Accounts payables" > > rather than "Accounts receivable") > > > > Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] wrote: > > > Some MVPs use that as well and when asked say they don't realize that > > > it offends and just use it as slang. But yeah if it's meant to imply > > > that Microsoft is rolling in dough.. folks go grab the 10K... and stop > > > looking at the cash account only, offset that with the accounts > > > receivable and then go read the "Risk" analysis section of that annual > > > report. It's an interesting read. > > > > > > I honestly get more tired of the "oh but they have billions in the > > > bank" comments. (is that before the liabilities or after?) > > > > > > BTW...After the Novell deal can we start using $u$e now? :-) > > > > > > Laura A. Robinson wrote: > > >> Just out of curiosity, what makes people think it's appropriate to > > >> refer to Microsoft as "M$" on an MS-focused mailing list whose > > >> participants include Microsoft employees, Microsoft contractors, > > >> Microsoft MVPs and various other people who may have a relatively > > >> positive view of Microsoft? > > >> > > >> Laura > > >> > > >> > > >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org > > >> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of > > >> Jitendra Kalyankar > > >> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:16 AM > > >> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > > >> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or > > >> VBScript? > > >> > > >> This is the link to M$ to start with...very good info.... > > >> > > >> > > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnanchor/html/scriptinga.asp > > >> > > >> > > >> -- Sincerely, > > >> J > > >> > > >> On 11/9/06, Stu Packett > >> > wrote: > > >> > > >> Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on > > >> this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I > > >> knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but > > >> would like to know what books do you recommend as a > beginner's > > >> book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference > > >> between WSH and VBScript, so if anyone could explain > that, I'd > > >> appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw > several > > >> books on WSH and VBScript, but don't know where I should > focus > > >> on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of > > >> any exist. Thanks in advance. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > -- > > Letting your vendors set your risk analysis these days? > > http://www.threatcode.com > > > > If you are a SBSer and you don't subscribe to the SBS Blog... man ... > > I will hunt you down... > > http://blogs.technet.com/sbs > > > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > > List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ > > > > > > This message (including any attachments) contains confidential > > information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is > > protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should > > delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, > > copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action > > based on it, is strictly prohibited. > > -- > Letting your vendors set your risk analysis these days? > http://www.threatcode.com > > If you are a SBSer and you don't subscribe to the SBS Blog... man ... > I will hunt you down... > http://blogs.technet.com/sbs > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ > > > This message (including any attachments) contains confidential > information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is > protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should > delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, > copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action > based on it, is strictly prohibited. -- Letting your vendors set your risk analysis these days? http://www.threatcode.com If you are a SBSer and you don't subscribe to the SBS Blog... man ... I will hunt you down... http://blogs.technet.com/sbs List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/

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11/10/2006 2:16 AM
You're not a fake employee, I've seen you. :-) BrettSh, too. It's that Stuart Kwan guy whose existence I'm doubting. (Come on, was that enough to inspire the rarity that is a Stuart Kwan ActiveDir post? Please? PLEASE?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? ;-)) On 11/9/06, Eric Fleischman wrote: > > > > Not that I really care if people say M$ or not, but I thought I'd comment on > one thing, in the name of full disclosure…. > > > > My participation on this list has __nothing__ to do with money. I don't get > compensated on any level for this. Heck, I don't even work on AD anymore, so > this is like 2 degrees of separation away from anything that MS compensates > me for. > > > > So, is MS out to make $? Sure. > > Is AD part of that money-making strategy? Sure. > > Does that have anything to do with MS employee participation on this list? I > don't think so. Others (at least those that I can recall posting here as I > type this mail) on this list fall in to the same boat. A couple of them > don't work on AD anymore either. > > > > Why do I hang out here? I do it because I care about customers and about > AD/ADAM. It has nothing to do with my salary. > > It's also why I still blog about AD, answer newsgroup questions, answer > internal questions (DLs, PSS, MCS, other PGs, etc.), handle direct emails > from a myriad of non-MS people (some I know, some are totally out of the > blue), fix code for people that ask for help, etc. I don't get paid for any > of this. > > > > ~Eric > > Borg #145719302 > > > > > > man" actually wrote it on behalf of the fake employee that goes by Eric > Fleischman> > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org > [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of > Vinnie Cardona > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:30 AM > > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ > > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ > > > > > > I believe we all know that your statement is correct "like any other big > company they are out to make $", what I inferred from what she was implying > (did I get that right?J) is that although we all know that Microsoft is not > perfect (…anyone want to cast the first stone?)…a grey-toned comment made on > this mailing list is probably not appreciated…especially when this mailing > list is used to help others. I'm sure there are a myriad of other forums to > take your personal opinions to. > > > > > > --vC > > > ________________________________ > > > From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org > [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of > Condra, Jerry W Mr HP > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:41 AM > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ > > > > I have a mostly positive view of M$ and like their products. Heck, I'm > certified in their products. But that doesn't make them inexpensive and like > any other big company they are out to make $. J > > > ________________________________ > > > From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org > [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of > Laura A. Robinson > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:14 PM > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ > > > > > Just out of curiosity, what makes people think it's appropriate to refer to > Microsoft as "M$" on an MS-focused mailing list whose participants include > Microsoft employees, Microsoft contractors, Microsoft MVPs and various other > people who may have a relatively positive view of Microsoft? > > > > > > Laura > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org > [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of > Jitendra Kalyankar > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:16 AM > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or VBScript? > > > This is the link to M$ to start with...very good info.... > > > > > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnanchor/html/scriptinga.asp > > > > > > > -- > Sincerely, > J > > > > > On 11/9/06, Stu Packett wrote: > > Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on this mailing > list, I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to script. I have > no experience in scripting, but would like to know what books do you > recommend as a beginner's book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the > difference between WSH and VBScript, so if anyone could explain that, I'd > appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several books on WSH > and VBScript, but don't know where I should focus on. I'm also open to > computer based training (CBT) videos of any exist. Thanks in advance. > > > > -- ----------------------- Laura E. Hunter Microsoft MVP - Windows Server Networking Author: _Active Directory Consultant's Field Guide_ (http://tinyurl.com/7f8ll) Author: _Active Directory Cookbook, Second Edition_ (http://tinyurl.com/z7svl) List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/

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11/10/2006 5:08 AM
I highly doubt that any MS employee takes offence at what is surely as tongue in cheek expression. Let's not get _too_ PC please :/ neil -----Original Message-----From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org]On Behalf Of Laura A. RobinsonSent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 6:14 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] OT: M$ Just out of curiosity, whatmakes people think it's appropriate to refer toMicrosoft as "M$" on an MS-focused mailing list whose participants include Microsoft employees, Microsoft contractors, Microsoft MVPs and various other people who may have a relatively positiveview of Microsoft? Laura From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Jitendra KalyankarSent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:16 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or VBScript? This is the link to M$ to start with...very good info.... http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnanchor/html/scriptinga.asp -- Sincerely,J On 11/9/06, Stu Packett wrote: Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but would like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference between WSH and VBScript, so if anyone could explain that, I'd appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several books on WSH and VBScript, but don't know where I should focus on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of any exist. Thanks in advance. PLEASE READ: The information contained in this email is confidential and intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you are not an intended recipient of this email please notify the sender immediately and delete your copy from your system. You must not copy, distribute or take any further action in reliance on it. Email is not a secure method of communication and Nomura International plc ('NIplc') will not, to the extent permitted by law, accept responsibility or liability for (a) the accuracy or completeness of, or (b) the presence of any virus, worm or similar malicious or disabling code in, this message or any attachment(s) to it. If verification of this email is sought then please request a hard copy. Unless otherwise stated this email: (1) is not, and should not be treated or relied upon as, investment research; (2) contains views or opinions that are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of NIplc; (3) is intended for informational purposes only and is not a recommendation, solicitation or offer to buy or sell securities or related financial instruments. NIplc does not provide investment services to private customers. Authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority. Registered in England no. 1550505 VAT No. 447 2492 35. Registered Office: 1 St Martin's-le-Grand, London, EC1A 4NP. A member of the Nomura group of companies.

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