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I'm
afraid I don't grok what your point is.
Laura
(Robinson, not Hunter. Also not Chappell.)
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Adrian
TeodorescuSent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 4:03 AMTo:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:
M$
That’s
love J
Grow
up people
From:
ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org]
On Behalf Of Akomolafe, DejiSent: Wednesday, November 15,
2006 8:45 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE:
[ActiveDir] OT: M$
I've
been wondering all day, even after my private mea culpa to you. I've been
wondering why that last line would elicit such reaction from you. So, when
another trusted fellow brought up the issue in a private conversation I
started wondering again.
Something just
didn't compute. I expected "Shut up, Laura"to an innocuous statement
that will be met with a smiley or VBEG from "Laura". I didn't expect "Laura"
to take umbrage at that phrase. As a matter of fact, I expected hugs and
kisses and flowers and whatnot. So, I kept wondering.......
Well, I'm wondering
no more. I got you mixed up, Laura. Beaucoup apologies. I thought you were
Laura Hunter (http://www.shutuplaura.com/- WARNING, adult language).
I am very sorry.
Sincerely,
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you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday?
-anon
From: Laura
A. RobinsonSent: Tue 11/14/2006 8:04 PMTo:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:
M$
That
last line really was unnecessary, Deji.
From:
ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Akomolafe,
DejiSent: Monday, November 13, 2006 8:39 PMTo:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:
M$
You
know what I find amazing here?
That
you felt compelled to lend more visibility to this topic, when it, truly,
does not deserve an iota of your time. I see people use "M$" in
conversations, I note their names and learn to avoid them. It's the same
thing I do with people who use "1337" and similar "elite-speak" in
conversation. I put them all in the same column of idiotic wannabes and move
on. The only reason I feel impelled to write what I'm writing is because you
are still lending your professional credence to a nonentity who should have
been duly ignored from the start. I'm surprised that you are expending so
much energy in that exercise, seeing as I know that you have been in
numerous environments where people do things like thesein attempts to
garner attention. Giving them the undeserved attention is, IMNSHO, injurious
to your reputation.
So,
Laura ..... shut up already.
Sincerely,
_____
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(/ Microsoft
MVP - Directory Serviceswww.akomolafe.com- we know IT-5.75, -3.23Do
you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday?
-anon
From:
Laura A. RobinsonSent: Mon 11/13/2006 4:31 PMTo:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:
M$
Disclaimer
#1: "You" in the below refers to a generic "you", not a specific
person.
Disclaimer
#2: My opinions are in no way intended to represent those of my employer.
They're my own, and they were my opinions long before I became a Microsoft
employee.
That
said...
You
know what I find amazing here? It has been clearly expressed that there
*are* people who find the term irritating (and I assure you, I'm not the
only one; I'm just the only one who states it publicly), yet you're still
arguing that because *you* think it's funny, it's therefore okay to use it.
Please explain this logic to me. Ifyou meet somebody who asks you not
to call him "Tiny" because he hates the nickname, do you make a point to
call him "Tiny"? If you do, then you have some serious personal issues. If
you don't do that, then why do you think it's okay to continue to justify
using a name on a Microsoft-centric list that is populated by
Microsoft-centric people that you've been told *is* offensive to some of
those people?
This
isn't about political correctness and it isn't about different senses of
humor. It's about somebody having stated flat-out that the "M$" term is
offensive to her (and, again, to a lot more people than you realize) and you
continuing to assert that it's just fine for you to use it. Some people
might consider that incredibly childish and ignorant. Did it never occur to
you simply to not use or defend the use ofthe term, regardless of
whether you think I'm oversensitive about it? It certainly occurred to the
person who originally posted it to stop using the term, and he didn't have
to have an argument that boils down to "I think it's funny, so you need to
just get over it" before stating that he wouldn't continue to use the term.
I found that very adult of him. I don't, however, find it particularly adult
to continue to defend the use of a tasteless, inaccurate, slighting moniker
because *you* think it's "funny".
Most
Microsoft employees are not nearly as well-paid as the public seems to
think, and yet, the VAST majority of them contribute their own time and
money to charitable organizations. I can give you statistics if you like;
Microsoft is actually first in terms of per-capita employee philanthropy.
The insistence upon referring to the company as "M$" displays a tremendous
amount of ignorance and rudeness to those employees, IMO.
Laura
From:
ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Bahta,
Nathaniel V CTR USAF NASIC/SCNASent: Monday, November 13, 2006
8:44 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE:
[ActiveDir] OT: M$
Exactly,
is exactly right. You cant impose your own humor preferences on
someone because you consider it unfunny. You just dont laugh.
You can't stop bad jokes, because someone, somewhere is laughing at
them. Just not you.
From:
ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Laura A.
RobinsonSent: Monday, November 13, 2006 8:20 AMTo:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:
M$
Exactly.
M$ just isn't funny. Borg, kool-aid, those are funny. M$ isn't. Go
figure.
From:
ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Bahta,
Nathaniel V CTR USAF NASIC/SCNASent: Monday, November 13,
2006 7:46 AMTo:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:
M$
Useless
Air Farce would not be found funny because its just that, not
funny. Funnier is US Chair Force. Thats funny, and people
here laugh at it all the time.
From:
ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Robert
RutherfordSent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:32
AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE:
[ActiveDir] OT: M$
;oP
Rob
Robert
Rutherford QuoStar
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From:
ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Laura A.
RobinsonSent: 13 November 2006 12:16To:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:
M$
There's
a reason for the "OT" portion of the subject line, you know.
;-)
Laura
From:
ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Robert
RutherfordSent: Monday, November 13, 2006 6:42
AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE:
[ActiveDir] OT: M$
Can
we kill this thread now, please?
Rob
Robert
Rutherford
QuoStar
Solutions Limited
T:
+44 (0) 8456 440 331 F:
+44 (0) 8456 440 332 M:
+44 (0) 7974 249 494 E:
robert.rutherford@quostar.com W:
www.quostar.com
From:
ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Laura
A. RobinsonSent: 13 November 2006 11:31To:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:
M$
Clearly
there are differing opinions about whether it's merely "slang" or
whether it's an inappropriate slur. Simpler just not to use it, don't
you think? I mean, I don't refer to the USAF as the "useless air
farce" and expect its members to think that's funny.
I
don't take offense when people refer to Microsoft as "borg" or talk
about "drinking the Kool-Aid"; in fact, I have been known to reference
both myself. However, I remember the origin of "M$" (unlike, I
suspect, some of those who use the phrase and think it's funny), and I
think it's ignorant and inappropriate for people to use it on a
Microsoft-centric list.
Laura
From:
ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of
Bahta, Nathaniel V CTR USAF NASIC/SCNASent: Monday,
November 13, 2006 5:48 AMTo:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:
M$
You
have to be able to laugh at yourself. M$ is a tounge in cheek
expression and certainly a corporation like Microsoft can laugh at
itself when M$ is used as slang in its reference. Thats why
wenickname really big guys tiny.
From:
ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of
Albert DuroSent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 10:27
PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re:
[ActiveDir] OT: M$
being
conciliatory is laudable, but I think you're missing the
point. It's not wether anybody is offended or not -- the
question is why does someone come into a peaceful gathering casting
offense. Especially when it's not necessary. If someone
deliberately spits on the dinner table, do you say 'oh, well, he
didn't hit any plate, let's just forget it' ? or even worse,
'he hit someone else's plate -- no worries.'
----- Original Message -----
From: neil.ruston@uk.nomura.com
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent:
Friday, November 10, 2006 9:08 AM
Subject: RE:
[ActiveDir] OT: M$
I
highly doubt that any MS employee takes offence at what is surely
as tongue in cheek expression.
Let's
not get _too_ PC please :/
neil
-----Original
Message-----From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org]On Behalf Of
Laura A. RobinsonSent: Thursday, November 09,
2006 6:14 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject:
[ActiveDir] OT: M$
Just
out of curiosity, whatmakes people think it's appropriate
to refer toMicrosoft as "M$" on an MS-focused mailing list
whose participants include Microsoft employees, Microsoft
contractors, Microsoft MVPs and various other people who may
have a relatively positiveview of Microsoft?
Laura
From:
ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of
Jitendra KalyankarSent: Thursday, November 09,
2006 10:16 AMTo:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re:
[ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or
VBScript?
This is the link to M$ to
start with...very good info....
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnanchor/html/scriptinga.asp
--
Sincerely,J
On
11/9/06, Stu Packett
wrote:
Hello everyone.
After reading through a lot of the posts on this mailing list,
I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to
script. I have no experience in scripting, but would
like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's book
on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference
between WSH and VBScript, so if anyone could explain that, I'd
appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw
several books on WSH and VBScript, but don't know where I
should focus on. I'm also open to computer based
training (CBT) videos of any exist. Thanks in advance.
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I’m too lazy to write and send you the bill (result : no explanation)
and also I’m too bored to enter in this “game” where you need to be, let’s say “important”
Over and out (mom)
From:
ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On
Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 3:48 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
I'm afraid I don't grok what your point is.
Laura (Robinson, not Hunter. Also not Chappell.)
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Adrian
Teodorescu
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 4:03 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
That’s love J
Grow up people
From:
ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On
Behalf Of Akomolafe, Deji
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 8:45 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
I've been wondering all day, even after my private mea culpa to
you. I've been wondering why that last line would elicit such reaction from
you. So, when another trusted fellow brought up the issue in a private
conversation I started wondering again.
Something
just didn't compute. I expected "Shut up, Laura"to an innocuous
statement that will be met with a smiley or VBEG from "Laura". I
didn't expect "Laura" to take umbrage at that phrase. As a matter of
fact, I expected hugs and kisses and flowers and whatnot. So, I kept
wondering.......
Well,
I'm wondering no more. I got you mixed up, Laura. Beaucoup apologies. I thought
you were Laura Hunter (http://www.shutuplaura.com/-
WARNING, adult language). I am very sorry.
Sincerely,
_____
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// _
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(_/
/)
(/
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
www.akomolafe.com- we know IT
-5.75, -3.23
Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday?
-anon
From: Laura A.
Robinson
Sent: Tue 11/14/2006 8:04 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
That last line really was unnecessary, Deji.
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Akomolafe, Deji
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 8:39 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
You know what I find amazing here?
That you felt compelled to lend more visibility to this topic, when
it, truly, does not deserve an iota of your time. I see people use
"M$" in conversations, I note their names and learn to avoid them.
It's the same thing I do with people who use "1337" and similar
"elite-speak" in conversation. I put them all in the same column of idiotic
wannabes and move on. The only reason I feel impelled to write what I'm writing
is because you are still lending your professional credence to a nonentity who
should have been duly ignored from the start. I'm surprised that you are
expending so much energy in that exercise, seeing as I know that you have been
in numerous environments where people do things like thesein attempts to
garner attention. Giving them the undeserved attention is, IMNSHO, injurious to
your reputation.
So, Laura ..... shut up already.
Sincerely,
_____
(, / |
/)
/) /)
/---| (/_ ______ ___// _
// _
) / |_/(__(_) // (_(_)(/_(_(_/(__(/_
(_/
/)
(/
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
www.akomolafe.com- we know IT
-5.75, -3.23
Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday?
-anon
From: Laura A.
Robinson
Sent: Mon 11/13/2006 4:31 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
Disclaimer #1: "You" in the below refers to a generic
"you", not a specific person.
Disclaimer #2: My opinions are in no way intended to represent
those of my employer. They're my own, and they were my opinions long before I
became a Microsoft employee.
That said...
You know what I find amazing here? It has been clearly expressed
that there *are* people who find the term irritating (and I assure you, I'm not
the only one; I'm just the only one who states it publicly), yet you're still
arguing that because *you* think it's funny, it's therefore okay to use it.
Please explain this logic to me. Ifyou meet somebody who asks you not to
call him "Tiny" because he hates the nickname, do you make a point to
call him "Tiny"? If you do, then you have some serious personal
issues. If you don't do that, then why do you think it's okay to continue to
justify using a name on a Microsoft-centric list that is populated by
Microsoft-centric people that you've been told *is* offensive to some of those
people?
This isn't about political correctness and it isn't about different
senses of humor. It's about somebody having stated flat-out that the
"M$" term is offensive to her (and, again, to a lot more people than
you realize) and you continuing to assert that it's just fine for you to use it.
Some people might consider that incredibly childish and ignorant. Did it never
occur to you simply to not use or defend the use ofthe term, regardless
of whether you think I'm oversensitive about it? It certainly occurred to the
person who originally posted it to stop using the term, and he didn't have to
have an argument that boils down to "I think it's funny, so you need to
just get over it" before stating that he wouldn't continue to use the
term. I found that very adult of him. I don't, however, find it particularly
adult to continue to defend the use of a tasteless, inaccurate, slighting
moniker because *you* think it's "funny".
Most Microsoft employees are not nearly as well-paid as the public
seems to think, and yet, the VAST majority of them contribute their own time
and money to charitable organizations. I can give you statistics if you like;
Microsoft is actually first in terms of per-capita employee philanthropy. The
insistence upon referring to the company as "M$" displays a
tremendous amount of ignorance and rudeness to those employees, IMO.
Laura
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Bahta,
Nathaniel V CTR USAF NASIC/SCNA
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 8:44 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
Exactly, is exactly right. You cant impose your own humor
preferences on someone because you consider it unfunny. You just dont
laugh. You can't stop bad jokes, because someone, somewhere is laughing
at them. Just not you.
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Laura A.
Robinson
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 8:20 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
Exactly. M$ just isn't funny. Borg, kool-aid, those are funny. M$
isn't. Go figure.
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Bahta,
Nathaniel V CTR USAF NASIC/SCNA
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:46 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
Useless Air Farce would not be found funny because its just that,
not funny. Funnier is US Chair Force. Thats funny, and people here
laugh at it all the time.
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Robert Rutherford
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:32 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
;oP
Rob
Robert Rutherford
QuoStar Solutions Limited
T: +44 (0) 8456 440 331
F: +44 (0) 8456 440 332
M: +44 (0) 7974 249 494
E: robert.rutherford@quostar.com
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From:
ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On
Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson
Sent: 13 November 2006 12:16
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
There's a reason for the "OT" portion of the subject
line, you know. ;-)
Laura
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Robert
Rutherford
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 6:42 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
Can we kill this thread now, please?
Rob
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From:
ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On
Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson
Sent: 13 November 2006 11:31
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
Clearly there are differing opinions about whether it's merely
"slang" or whether it's an inappropriate slur. Simpler just not to
use it, don't you think? I mean, I don't refer to the USAF as the "useless
air farce" and expect its members to think that's funny.
I don't take offense when people refer to Microsoft as
"borg" or talk about "drinking the Kool-Aid"; in fact, I
have been known to reference both myself. However, I remember the origin of
"M$" (unlike, I suspect, some of those who use the phrase and think
it's funny), and I think it's ignorant and inappropriate for people to use it
on a Microsoft-centric list.
Laura
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Bahta,
Nathaniel V CTR USAF NASIC/SCNA
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 5:48 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
You have to be able to laugh at yourself. M$ is a tounge in
cheek expression and certainly a corporation like Microsoft can laugh at itself
when M$ is used as slang in its reference. Thats why wenickname
really big guys tiny.
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Albert Duro
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 10:27 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
being conciliatory
is laudable, but I think you're missing the point. It's not wether
anybody is offended or not -- the question is why does someone come into a
peaceful gathering casting offense. Especially when it's not
necessary. If someone deliberately spits on the dinner table, do you say
'oh, well, he didn't hit any plate, let's just forget it' ? or even
worse, 'he hit someone else's plate -- no worries.'
----- Original Message -----
From: neil.ruston@uk.nomura.com
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 9:08 AM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
I highly doubt that any MS employee takes offence at what is surely
as tongue in cheek expression.
Let's not get _too_ PC please :/
neil
-----Original
Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org]On Behalf Of Laura A.
Robinson
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 6:14 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
Just out of curiosity, whatmakes people think it's
appropriate to refer toMicrosoft as "M$" on an MS-focused
mailing list whose participants include Microsoft employees, Microsoft
contractors, Microsoft MVPs and various other people who may have a relatively
positiveview of Microsoft?
Laura
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Jitendra
Kalyankar
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:16 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or VBScript?
This is the link to M$ to start with...very
good info....
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnanchor/html/scriptinga.asp
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Sincerely,
J
On 11/9/06, Stu
Packett
wrote:
Hello everyone. After reading through
a lot of the posts on this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier
if I knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but would
like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's book on
scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference between WSH and
VBScript, so if anyone could explain that, I'd appreciate that. After
browsing through Amazon, I saw several books on WSH and VBScript, but don't
know where I should focus on. I'm also open to computer based training
(CBT) videos of any exist. Thanks in advance.
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On 11/16/06, Laura A. Robinson wrote:
Boobier?
That brings up some seriously disturbing imagery...
Laura
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:
ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Akomolafe, DejiSent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 4:37 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject:
RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
>>>you should have used a smiley
There was a time, way back when.... so way back we may need a time machine ...... that malicious intentions are not the default attributions to every public discourse. In those days, there was no such thing as "smiley", yet humans go along fine. OK, maybe not "fine", but we did survive. And yes, not all interactions were in-person in those eons gone by. Tattooing those Avian Carriers Ώ] with colorful smileys would have been painful and awkward, no? Please don't equate thenon-existence of smiley with malice.
In my case, lack of the approximate voice inflectionor facial expression was not responsible for the faux pas. The attempt at levity wouldn't have gone over correctly, regardless of how many grinning mascots I could have inscribed therein. The audience was wrong. Simple. "Know your audience" is a time-tested maxim, and I just failed to do so in this case. Boob doesn't even accurately describe it. So, let's say Boobier.
>>>Little guys like me won't have a chance but it would be fun just the same.
IF you think spelling your name with a little "j" makes you "little", then you are even boobier than meΐ]
Ώ]For the overly-curious - http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2549.html
and http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1149.html
ΐ]OK, so now I owe you a smiley, eh? I'm keeping it warm for you, and I'll pull it out and show it to you when I see you. I promise not to type with it until then.
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From: joeSent: Thu 11/16/2006 8:12 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
Adrian, of the 41,000+ messages I have archived for this list, this is the only thread I can find that you haveresponded to....
It begs one question? If it is so beneath you and you are so lazy, why bother?
If this is your way of introducing yourself, some will probably consider it strike 1. While Lauracan be feisty, many people do think she is important. I happen to be one of those people. Certainly she has been extremely helpful both here and in the newsgroups and is positively great in personal email and in person though in those forums as well she may get fiesty. Feisty doesn't bother me, what is important is technical quality and how willing people are to share that quality and knowledge. I personally can be a complete ass and kick sand on people, I try to temper it by also being helpful occasionally.
So whileI don't consider this strike 1 for you,I do hope that you contribute in a positive meaningfulmanner at some point as Laura has done on many occasions and hopefully will continue to do so.
Also, while this thread and others like it are off base, it is part and parcel of this list and I don't expect them to go away any time soon. I don't even wish that they do... If they do, the list might get a little boring as there are strong "personalities" in this space and the collisions are inevitable. From the standpoint of someone who has met personally a great many of the"personalities" on the list and looking forward to meeting even more, I actually find it oddly enjoyable at times.OT is in the subject, that is clearly something that folks can filter out if they aren't thrilled with this type of chatter.
My only other comment on this at this point is Deji you boob, even if it were Laura Hunter, you should have used a smiley.Knowing all of you personally... I know that either one of them could take you in a fist fight...;o)
If Gil has his ears on, DEC needs a boxing ring and those sumo outfits so people can slam each other in person all in fun. We could have side wagers and everything. Little guys like me won't have a chance but it would be fun just the same.
joe
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From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:
ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Adrian TeodorescuSent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 10:35 AMTo:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
I'm too lazy to write and send you the bill (result : no explanation) and also I'm too bored to enter in this "game" where you need to be, let's say "important"
Over and out (mom)
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Adrian, of the 41,000+ messages I have archived for this
list, this is the only thread I can find that you haveresponded
to....
It begs one question? If it is so beneath you and you are
so lazy, why bother?
If this is your way of introducing yourself, some will
probably consider it strike 1. While Lauracan be feisty, many people do
think she is important. I happen to be one of those people. Certainly she has
been extremely helpful both here and in the newsgroups and is positively great
in personal email and in person though in those forums as well she may get
fiesty. Feisty doesn't bother me, what is important is technical quality and how
willing people are to share that quality and knowledge. I personally can be a
complete ass and kick sand on people, I try to temper it by also being helpful
occasionally.
So whileI don't consider this strike 1 for
you,I do hope that you contribute in a positive meaningfulmanner at
some point as Laura has done on many occasions and hopefully will continue to do
so.
Also, while this thread and others like it are off base, it
is part and parcel of this list and I don't expect them to go away any time
soon. I don't even wish that they do... If they do, the list might get a little
boring as there are strong "personalities" in this space and the collisions are
inevitable. From the standpoint of someone who has met personally a great many
of the"personalities" on the list and looking forward to meeting even
more, I actually find it oddly enjoyable at times.OT is in the subject,
that is clearly something that folks can filter out if they aren't thrilled with
this type of chatter.
My only other comment on this at this point is Deji you
boob, even if it were Laura Hunter, you should have used a smiley.Knowing
all of you personally... I know that either one of them could take you in a fist
fight...;o)
If Gil has his ears on, DEC needs a boxing ring and those
sumo outfits so people can slam each other in person all in fun. We could have
side wagers and everything. Little guys like me won't have a chance but it would
be fun just the same.
joe
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From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Adrian
TeodorescuSent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 10:35 AMTo:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:
M$
I’m
too lazy to write and send you the bill (result : no explanation) and also I’m
too bored to enter in this “game” where you need to be, let’s say
“important”
Over
and out (mom)
From:
ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org]
On Behalf Of Laura A. RobinsonSent: Thursday, November 16,
2006 3:48 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE:
[ActiveDir] OT: M$
I'm
afraid I don't grok what your point is.
Laura
(Robinson, not Hunter. Also not Chappell.)
From:
ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org]
On Behalf Of Adrian TeodorescuSent: Wednesday, November 15,
2006 4:03 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE:
[ActiveDir] OT: M$
That’s
love J
Grow
up people
From:
ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org]
On Behalf Of Akomolafe, DejiSent: Wednesday, November 15,
2006 8:45 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE:
[ActiveDir] OT: M$
I've
been wondering all day, even after my private mea culpa to you. I've been
wondering why that last line would elicit such reaction from you. So, when
another trusted fellow brought up the issue in a private conversation I
started wondering again.
Something just
didn't compute. I expected "Shut up, Laura"to an innocuous statement
that will be met with a smiley or VBEG from "Laura". I didn't expect "Laura"
to take umbrage at that phrase. As a matter of fact, I expected hugs and
kisses and flowers and whatnot. So, I kept wondering.......
Well, I'm wondering
no more. I got you mixed up, Laura. Beaucoup apologies. I thought you were
Laura Hunter (http://www.shutuplaura.com/- WARNING, adult language).
I am very sorry.
Sincerely,
_____
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From: Laura
A. RobinsonSent: Tue 11/14/2006 8:04 PMTo:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:
M$
That
last line really was unnecessary, Deji.
From:
ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Akomolafe,
DejiSent: Monday, November 13, 2006 8:39 PMTo:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:
M$
You
know what I find amazing here?
That
you felt compelled to lend more visibility to this topic, when it, truly,
does not deserve an iota of your time. I see people use "M$" in
conversations, I note their names and learn to avoid them. It's the same
thing I do with people who use "1337" and similar "elite-speak" in
conversation. I put them all in the same column of idiotic wannabes and move
on. The only reason I feel impelled to write what I'm writing is because you
are still lending your professional credence to a nonentity who should have
been duly ignored from the start. I'm surprised that you are expending so
much energy in that exercise, seeing as I know that you have been in
numerous environments where people do things like thesein attempts to
garner attention. Giving them the undeserved attention is, IMNSHO, injurious
to your reputation.
So,
Laura ..... shut up already.
Sincerely,
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-anon
From:
Laura A. RobinsonSent: Mon 11/13/2006 4:31 PMTo:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:
M$
Disclaimer
#1: "You" in the below refers to a generic "you", not a specific
person.
Disclaimer
#2: My opinions are in no way intended to represent those of my employer.
They're my own, and they were my opinions long before I became a Microsoft
employee.
That
said...
You
know what I find amazing here? It has been clearly expressed that there
*are* people who find the term irritating (and I assure you, I'm not the
only one; I'm just the only one who states it publicly), yet you're still
arguing that because *you* think it's funny, it's therefore okay to use it.
Please explain this logic to me. Ifyou meet somebody who asks you not
to call him "Tiny" because he hates the nickname, do you make a point to
call him "Tiny"? If you do, then you have some serious personal issues. If
you don't do that, then why do you think it's okay to continue to justify
using a name on a Microsoft-centric list that is populated by
Microsoft-centric people that you've been told *is* offensive to some of
those people?
This
isn't about political correctness and it isn't about different senses of
humor. It's about somebody having stated flat-out that the "M$" term is
offensive to her (and, again, to a lot more people than you realize) and you
continuing to assert that it's just fine for you to use it. Some people
might consider that incredibly childish and ignorant. Did it never occur to
you simply to not use or defend the use ofthe term, regardless of
whether you think I'm oversensitive about it? It certainly occurred to the
person who originally posted it to stop using the term, and he didn't have
to have an argument that boils down to "I think it's funny, so you need to
just get over it" before stating that he wouldn't continue to use the term.
I found that very adult of him. I don't, however, find it particularly adult
to continue to defend the use of a tasteless, inaccurate, slighting moniker
because *you* think it's "funny".
Most
Microsoft employees are not nearly as well-paid as the public seems to
think, and yet, the VAST majority of them contribute their own time and
money to charitable organizations. I can give you statistics if you like;
Microsoft is actually first in terms of per-capita employee philanthropy.
The insistence upon referring to the company as "M$" displays a tremendous
amount of ignorance and rudeness to those employees, IMO.
Laura
From:
ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Bahta,
Nathaniel V CTR USAF NASIC/SCNASent: Monday, November 13, 2006
8:44 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE:
[ActiveDir] OT: M$
Exactly,
is exactly right. You cant impose your own humor preferences on
someone because you consider it unfunny. You just dont laugh.
You can't stop bad jokes, because someone, somewhere is laughing at
them. Just not you.
From:
ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Laura A.
RobinsonSent: Monday, November 13, 2006 8:20 AMTo:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:
M$
Exactly.
M$ just isn't funny. Borg, kool-aid, those are funny. M$ isn't. Go
figure.
From:
ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Bahta,
Nathaniel V CTR USAF NASIC/SCNASent: Monday, November 13,
2006 7:46 AMTo:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:
M$
Useless
Air Farce would not be found funny because its just that, not
funny. Funnier is US Chair Force. Thats funny, and people
here laugh at it all the time.
From:
ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Robert
RutherfordSent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:32
AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE:
[ActiveDir] OT: M$
;oP
Rob
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From:
ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Laura A.
RobinsonSent: 13 November 2006 12:16To:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:
M$
There's
a reason for the "OT" portion of the subject line, you know.
;-)
Laura
From:
ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Robert
RutherfordSent: Monday, November 13, 2006 6:42
AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE:
[ActiveDir] OT: M$
Can
we kill this thread now, please?
Rob
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From:
ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Laura
A. RobinsonSent: 13 November 2006 11:31To:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:
M$
Clearly
there are differing opinions about whether it's merely "slang" or
whether it's an inappropriate slur. Simpler just not to use it, don't
you think? I mean, I don't refer to the USAF as the "useless air
farce" and expect its members to think that's funny.
I
don't take offense when people refer to Microsoft as "borg" or talk
about "drinking the Kool-Aid"; in fact, I have been known to reference
both myself. However, I remember the origin of "M$" (unlike, I
suspect, some of those who use the phrase and think it's funny), and I
think it's ignorant and inappropriate for people to use it on a
Microsoft-centric list.
Laura
From:
ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of
Bahta, Nathaniel V CTR USAF NASIC/SCNASent: Monday,
November 13, 2006 5:48 AMTo:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:
M$
You
have to be able to laugh at yourself. M$ is a tounge in cheek
expression and certainly a corporation like Microsoft can laugh at
itself when M$ is used as slang in its reference. Thats why
wenickname really big guys tiny.
From:
ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of
Albert DuroSent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 10:27
PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re:
[ActiveDir] OT: M$
being
conciliatory is laudable, but I think you're missing the
point. It's not wether anybody is offended or not -- the
question is why does someone come into a peaceful gathering casting
offense. Especially when it's not necessary. If someone
deliberately spits on the dinner table, do you say 'oh, well, he
didn't hit any plate, let's just forget it' ? or even worse,
'he hit someone else's plate -- no worries.'
----- Original Message -----
From: neil.ruston@uk.nomura.com
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent:
Friday, November 10, 2006 9:08 AM
Subject: RE:
[ActiveDir] OT: M$
I
highly doubt that any MS employee takes offence at what is surely
as tongue in cheek expression.
Let's
not get _too_ PC please :/
neil
-----Original
Message-----From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org]On Behalf Of
Laura A. RobinsonSent: Thursday, November 09,
2006 6:14 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject:
[ActiveDir] OT: M$
Just
out of curiosity, whatmakes people think it's appropriate
to refer toMicrosoft as "M$" on an MS-focused mailing list
whose participants include Microsoft employees, Microsoft
contractors, Microsoft MVPs and various other people who may
have a relatively positiveview of Microsoft?
Laura
From:
ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of
Jitendra KalyankarSent: Thursday, November 09,
2006 10:16 AMTo:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re:
[ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or
VBScript?
This is the link to M$ to
start with...very good info....
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnanchor/html/scriptinga.asp
--
Sincerely,J
On
11/9/06, Stu Packett
wrote:
Hello everyone.
After reading through a lot of the posts on this mailing list,
I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to
script. I have no experience in scripting, but would
like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's book
on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference
between WSH and VBScript, so if anyone could explain that, I'd
appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw
several books on WSH and VBScript, but don't know where I
should focus on. I'm also open to computer based
training (CBT) videos of any exist. Thanks in advance.
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I'm sooooo NOT touching that.
Sincerely, _____ (, / | /) /) /) /---| (/_ ______ ___// _ // _ ) / |_/(__(_) // (_(_)(/_(_(_/(__(/_(_/ /) (/ Microsoft MVP - Directory Serviceswww.akomolafe.com- we know IT-5.75, -3.23Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday? -anon
From: Laura A. RobinsonSent: Thu 11/16/2006 5:13 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
Boobier?
That brings up some seriously disturbing imagery...
Laura
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Akomolafe, DejiSent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 4:37 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
>>>you should have used a smiley
There was a time, way back when.... so way back we may need a time machine ...... that malicious intentions are not the default attributions to every public discourse. In those days, there was no such thing as "smiley", yet humans go along fine. OK, maybe not "fine", but we did survive. And yes, not all interactions were in-person in those eons gone by. Tattooing those Avian Carriers Ώ] with colorful smileys would have been painful and awkward, no? Please don't equate thenon-existence of smiley with malice.
In my case, lack of the approximate voice inflectionor facial expression was not responsible for the faux pas. The attempt at levity wouldn't have gone over correctly, regardless of how many grinning mascots I could have inscribed therein. The audience was wrong. Simple. "Know your audience" is a time-tested maxim, and I just failed to do so in this case. Boob doesn't even accurately describe it. So, let's say Boobier.
>>>Little guys like me won't have a chance but it would be fun just the same.
IF you think spelling your name with a little "j" makes you "little", then you are even boobier than meΐ]
Ώ]For the overly-curious - http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2549.htmland http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1149.html
ΐ]OK, so now I owe you a smiley, eh? I'm keeping it warm for you, and I'll pull it out and show it to you when I see you. I promise not to type with it until then.
Sincerely, _____ (, / | /) /) /) /---| (/_ ______ ___// _ // _ ) / |_/(__(_) // (_(_)(/_(_(_/(__(/_(_/ /) (/ Microsoft MVP - Directory Serviceswww.akomolafe.com- we know IT-5.75, -3.23Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday? -anon
From: joeSent: Thu 11/16/2006 8:12 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
Adrian, of the 41,000+ messages I have archived for this list, this is the only thread I can find that you haveresponded to....
It begs one question? If it is so beneath you and you are so lazy, why bother?
If this is your way of introducing yourself, some will probably consider it strike 1. While Lauracan be feisty, many people do think she is important. I happen to be one of those people. Certainly she has been extremely helpful both here and in the newsgroups and is positively great in personal email and in person though in those forums as well she may get fiesty. Feisty doesn't bother me, what is important is technical quality and how willing people are to share that quality and knowledge. I personally can be a complete ass and kick sand on people, I try to temper it by also being helpful occasionally.
So whileI don't consider this strike 1 for you,I do hope that you contribute in a positive meaningfulmanner at some point as Laura has done on many occasions and hopefully will continue to do so.
Also, while this thread and others like it are off base, it is part and parcel of this list and I don't expect them to go away any time soon. I don't even wish that they do... If they do, the list might get a little boring as there are strong "personalities" in this space and the collisions are inevitable. From the standpoint of someone who has met personally a great many of the"personalities" on the list and looking forward to meeting even more, I actually find it oddly enjoyable at times.OT is in the subject, that is clearly something that folks can filter out if they aren't thrilled with this type of chatter.
My only other comment on this at this point is Deji you boob, even if it were Laura Hunter, you should have used a smiley.Knowing all of you personally... I know that either one of them could take you in a fist fight...;o)
If Gil has his ears on, DEC needs a boxing ring and those sumo outfits so people can slam each other in person all in fun. We could have side wagers and everything. Little guys like me won't have a chance but it would be fun just the same.
joe
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From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Adrian TeodorescuSent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 10:35 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
I’m too lazy to write and send you the bill (result : no explanation) and also I’m too bored to enter in this “game” where you need to be, let’s say “important”
Over and out (mom)
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Laura A. RobinsonSent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 3:48 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
I'm afraid I don't grok what your point is.
Laura (Robinson, not Hunter. Also not Chappell.)
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Adrian TeodorescuSent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 4:03 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
That’s love J
Grow up people
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Akomolafe, DejiSent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 8:45 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
I've been wondering all day, even after my private mea culpa to you. I've been wondering why that last line would elicit such reaction from you. So, when another trusted fellow brought up the issue in a private conversation I started wondering again.
Something just didn't compute. I expected "Shut up, Laura"to an innocuous statement that will be met with a smiley or VBEG from "Laura". I didn't expect "Laura" to take umbrage at that phrase. As a matter of fact, I expected hugs and kisses and flowers and whatnot. So, I kept wondering.......
Well, I'm wondering no more. I got you mixed up, Laura. Beaucoup apologies. I thought you were Laura Hunter (http://www.shutuplaura.com/- WARNING, adult language). I am very sorry.
Sincerely, _____ (, / | /) /) /) /---| (/_ ______ ___// _ // _ ) / |_/(__(_) // (_(_)(/_(_(_/(__(/_(_/ /) (/ Microsoft MVP - Directory Serviceswww.akomolafe.com- we know IT-5.75, -3.23Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday? -anon
From: Laura A. RobinsonSent: Tue 11/14/2006 8:04 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
That last line really was unnecessary, Deji.
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Akomolafe, DejiSent: Monday, November 13, 2006 8:39 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
You know what I find amazing here?
That you felt compelled to lend more visibility to this topic, when it, truly, does not deserve an iota of your time. I see people use "M$" in conversations, I note their names and learn to avoid them. It's the same thing I do with people who use "1337" and similar "elite-speak" in conversation. I put them all in the same column of idiotic wannabes and move on. The only reason I feel impelled to write what I'm writing is because you are still lending your professional credence to a nonentity who should have been duly ignored from the start. I'm surprised that you are expending so much energy in that exercise, seeing as I know that you have been in numerous environments where people do things like thesein attempts to garner attention. Giving them the undeserved attention is, IMNSHO, injurious to your reputation.
So, Laura ..... shut up already.
Sincerely, _____ (, / | /) /) /) /---| (/_ ______ ___// _ // _ ) / |_/(__(_) // (_(_)(/_(_(_/(__(/_(_/ /) (/ Microsoft MVP - Directory Serviceswww.akomolafe.com- we know IT-5.75, -3.23Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday? -anon
From: Laura A. RobinsonSent: Mon 11/13/2006 4:31 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
Disclaimer #1: "You" in the below refers to a generic "you", not a specific person.
Disclaimer #2: My opinions are in no way intended to represent those of my employer. They're my own, and they were my opinions long before I became a Microsoft employee.
That said...
You know what I find amazing here? It has been clearly expressed that there *are* people who find the term irritating (and I assure you, I'm not the only one; I'm just the only one who states it publicly), yet you're still arguing that because *you* think it's funny, it's therefore okay to use it. Please explain this logic to me. Ifyou meet somebody who asks you not to call him "Tiny" because he hates the nickname, do you make a point to call him "Tiny"? If you do, then you have some serious personal issues. If you don't do that, then why do you think it's okay to continue to justify using a name on a Microsoft-centric list that is populated by Microsoft-centric people that you've been told *is* offensive to some of those people?
This isn't about political correctness and it isn't about different senses of humor. It's about somebody having stated flat-out that the "M$" term is offensive to her (and, again, to a lot more people than you realize) and you continuing to assert that it's just fine for you to use it. Some people might consider that incredibly childish and ignorant. Did it never occur to you simply to not use or defend the use ofthe term, regardless of whether you think I'm oversensitive about it? It certainly occurred to the person who originally posted it to stop using the term, and he didn't have to have an argument that boils down to "I think it's funny, so you need to just get over it" before stating that he wouldn't continue to use the term. I found that very adult of him. I don't, however, find it particularly adult to continue to defend the use of a tasteless, inaccurate, slighting moniker because *you* think it's "funny".
Most Microsoft employees are not nearly as well-paid as the public seems to think, and yet, the VAST majority of them contribute their own time and money to charitable organizations. I can give you statistics if you like; Microsoft is actually first in terms of per-capita employee philanthropy. The insistence upon referring to the company as "M$" displays a tremendous amount of ignorance and rudeness to those employees, IMO.
Laura
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Bahta, Nathaniel V CTR USAF NASIC/SCNASent: Monday, November 13, 2006 8:44 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
Exactly, is exactly right. You cant impose your own humor preferences on someone because you consider it unfunny. You just dont laugh. You can't stop bad jokes, because someone, somewhere is laughing at them. Just not you.
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Laura A. RobinsonSent: Monday, November 13, 2006 8:20 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
Exactly. M$ just isn't funny. Borg, kool-aid, those are funny. M$ isn't. Go figure.
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Bahta, Nathaniel V CTR USAF NASIC/SCNASent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:46 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
Useless Air Farce would not be found funny because its just that, not funny. Funnier is US Chair Force. Thats funny, and people here laugh at it all the time.
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Robert RutherfordSent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:32 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
;oP
Rob
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From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Laura A. RobinsonSent: 13 November 2006 12:16To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
There's a reason for the "OT" portion of the subject line, you know. ;-)
Laura
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Robert RutherfordSent: Monday, November 13, 2006 6:42 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
Can we kill this thread now, please?
Rob
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From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Laura A. RobinsonSent: 13 November 2006 11:31To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
Clearly there are differing opinions about whether it's merely "slang" or whether it's an inappropriate slur. Simpler just not to use it, don't you think? I mean, I don't refer to the USAF as the "useless air farce" and expect its members to think that's funny.
I don't take offense when people refer to Microsoft as "borg" or talk about "drinking the Kool-Aid"; in fact, I have been known to reference both myself. However, I remember the origin of "M$" (unlike, I suspect, some of those who use the phrase and think it's funny), and I think it's ignorant and inappropriate for people to use it on a Microsoft-centric list.
Laura
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Bahta, Nathaniel V CTR USAF NASIC/SCNASent: Monday, November 13, 2006 5:48 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
You have to be able to laugh at yourself. M$ is a tounge in cheek expression and certainly a corporation like Microsoft can laugh at itself when M$ is used as slang in its reference. Thats why wenickname really big guys tiny.
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Albert DuroSent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 10:27 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
being conciliatory is laudable, but I think you're missing the point. It's not wether anybody is offended or not -- the question is why does someone come into a peaceful gathering casting offense. Especially when it's not necessary. If someone deliberately spits on the dinner table, do you say 'oh, well, he didn't hit any plate, let's just forget it' ? or even worse, 'he hit someone else's plate -- no worries.'
----- Original Message -----
From: neil.ruston@uk.nomura.com
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 9:08 AM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
I highly doubt that any MS employee takes offence at what is surely as tongue in cheek expression.
Let's not get _too_ PC please :/
neil
-----Original Message-----From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org]On Behalf Of Laura A. RobinsonSent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 6:14 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
Just out of curiosity, whatmakes people think it's appropriate to refer toMicrosoft as "M$" on an MS-focused mailing list whose participants include Microsoft employees, Microsoft contractors, Microsoft MVPs and various other people who may have a relatively positiveview of Microsoft?
Laura
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Jitendra KalyankarSent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:16 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book on Scripting - WSH or VBScript?
This is the link to M$ to start with...very good info....
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnanchor/html/scriptinga.asp
-- Sincerely,J
On 11/9/06, Stu Packett wrote:
Hello everyone. After reading through a lot of the posts on this mailing list, I realize I could make my job easier if I knew how to script. I have no experience in scripting, but would like to know what books do you recommend as a beginner's book on scripting? Also, I don't really know the difference between WSH and VBScript, so if anyone could explain that, I'd appreciate that. After browsing through Amazon, I saw several books on WSH and VBScript, but don't know where I should focus on. I'm also open to computer based training (CBT) videos of any exist. Thanks in advance.
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| Great, thanks joe. Now I have to go stab my eyes out with a fork.
It's worse than Princess Jorge in the lederhosen at Oktoberfest.
On 11/17/06, joe wrote:
>
> I wear boots with lifts. Shirts with padding. And carry hershey's kisses in
> my cheeks like a squirrel.
>
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>
>
> ________________________________
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of
> Akomolafe, Deji
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 4:37 PM
>
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
>
>
>
> >>>you should have used a smiley
> There was a time, way back when.... so way back we may need a time machine
> ...... that malicious intentions are not the default attributions to every
> public discourse. In those days, there was no such thing as "smiley", yet
> humans go along fine. OK, maybe not "fine", but we did survive. And yes, not
> all interactions were in-person in those eons gone by. Tattooing those Avian
> Carriers Ώ] with colorful smileys would have been painful and awkward, no?
> Please don't equate the non-existence of smiley with malice.
>
> In my case, lack of the approximate voice inflection or facial expression
> was not responsible for the faux pas. The attempt at levity wouldn't have
> gone over correctly, regardless of how many grinning mascots I could have
> inscribed therein. The audience was wrong. Simple. "Know your audience" is a
> time-tested maxim, and I just failed to do so in this case. Boob doesn't
> even accurately describe it. So, let's say Boobier.
>
> >>>Little guys like me won't have a chance but it would be fun just the
> same.
>
> IF you think spelling your name with a little "j" makes you "little", then
> you are even boobier than meΐ]
>
>
> Ώ]For the overly-curious -
> http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2549.html and
> http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1149.html
> ΐ]OK, so now I owe you a smiley, eh? I'm keeping it warm for you, and I'll
> pull it out and show it to you when I see you. I promise not to type with it
> until then.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
> _____
> (, / | /) /) /)
> /---| (/_ ______ ___// _ // _
> ) / |_/(__(_) // (_(_)(/_(_(_/(__(/_
> (_/ /)
> (/
> Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
> www.akomolafe.com - we know IT
> -5.75, -3.23
> Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about
> Yesterday? -anon
>
> ________________________________
> From: joe
> Sent: Thu 11/16/2006 8:12 AM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
>
>
> Adrian, of the 41,000+ messages I have archived for this list, this is the
> only thread I can find that you have responded to....
>
> It begs one question? If it is so beneath you and you are so lazy, why
> bother?
>
> If this is your way of introducing yourself, some will probably consider it
> strike 1. While Laura can be feisty, many people do think she is important.
> I happen to be one of those people. Certainly she has been extremely helpful
> both here and in the newsgroups and is positively great in personal email
> and in person though in those forums as well she may get fiesty. Feisty
> doesn't bother me, what is important is technical quality and how willing
> people are to share that quality and knowledge. I personally can be a
> complete ass and kick sand on people, I try to temper it by also being
> helpful occasionally.
>
> So while I don't consider this strike 1 for you, I do hope that you
> contribute in a positive meaningful manner at some point as Laura has done
> on many occasions and hopefully will continue to do so.
>
>
> Also, while this thread and others like it are off base, it is part and
> parcel of this list and I don't expect them to go away any time soon. I
> don't even wish that they do... If they do, the list might get a little
> boring as there are strong "personalities" in this space and the collisions
> are inevitable. From the standpoint of someone who has met personally a
> great many of the "personalities" on the list and looking forward to meeting
> even more, I actually find it oddly enjoyable at times. OT is in the
> subject, that is clearly something that folks can filter out if they aren't
> thrilled with this type of chatter.
>
>
> My only other comment on this at this point is Deji you boob, even if it
> were Laura Hunter, you should have used a smiley. Knowing all of you
> personally... I know that either one of them could take you in a fist
> fight... ;o)
>
> If Gil has his ears on, DEC needs a boxing ring and those sumo outfits so
> people can slam each other in person all in fun. We could have side wagers
> and everything. Little guys like me won't have a chance but it would be fun
> just the same.
>
> joe
>
>
> --
> O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition -
> http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of
> Adrian Teodorescu
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 10:35 AM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
>
>
>
>
> I'm too lazy to write and send you the bill (result : no explanation) and
> also I'm too bored to enter in this "game" where you need to be, let's say
> "important"
>
> Over and out (mom)
>
>
>
>
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of
> Laura A. Robinson
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 3:48 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
>
>
>
>
> I'm afraid I don't grok what your point is.
>
>
>
>
>
> Laura (Robinson, not Hunter. Also not Chappell.)
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
>
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of
> Adrian Teodorescu
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 4:03 AM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
>
> That's love J
>
> Grow up people
>
>
>
>
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of
> Akomolafe, Deji
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 8:45 AM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
>
>
>
>
> I've been wondering all day, even after my private mea culpa to you. I've
> been wondering why that last line would elicit such reaction from you. So,
> when another trusted fellow brought up the issue in a private conversation I
> started wondering again.
>
>
>
>
>
> Something just didn't compute. I expected "Shut up, Laura" to an innocuous
> statement that will be met with a smiley or VBEG from "Laura". I didn't
> expect "Laura" to take umbrage at that phrase. As a matter of fact, I
> expected hugs and kisses and flowers and whatnot. So, I kept
> wondering.......
>
>
>
>
>
> Well, I'm wondering no more. I got you mixed up, Laura. Beaucoup apologies.
> I thought you were Laura Hunter (http://www.shutuplaura.com/ - WARNING,
> adult language). I am very sorry.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
> _____
> (, / | /) /) /)
> /---| (/_ ______ ___// _ // _
> ) / |_/(__(_) // (_(_)(/_(_(_/(__(/_
> (_/ /)
> (/
> Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
> www.akomolafe.com - we know IT
> -5.75, -3.23
> Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about
> Yesterday? -anon
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
>
> From: Laura A. Robinson
> Sent: Tue 11/14/2006 8:04 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
>
>
> That last line really was unnecessary, Deji.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
>
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of
> Akomolafe, Deji
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 8:39 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
>
>
> You know what I find amazing here?
>
>
>
>
>
> That you felt compelled to lend more visibility to this topic, when it,
> truly, does not deserve an iota of your time. I see people use "M$" in
> conversations, I note their names and learn to avoid them. It's the same
> thing I do with people who use "1337" and similar "elite-speak" in
> conversation. I put them all in the same column of idiotic wannabes and move
> on. The only reason I feel impelled to write what I'm writing is because you
> are still lending your professional credence to a nonentity who should have
> been duly ignored from the start. I'm surprised that you are expending so
> much energy in that exercise, seeing as I know that you have been in
> numerous environments where people do things like these in attempts to
> garner attention. Giving them the undeserved attention is, IMNSHO, injurious
> to your reputation.
>
>
>
>
>
> So, Laura ..... shut up already.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
> _____
> (, / | /) /) /)
> /---| (/_ ______ ___// _ // _
> ) / |_/(__(_) // (_(_)(/_(_(_/(__(/_
> (_/ /)
> (/
> Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
> www.akomolafe.com - we know IT
> -5.75, -3.23
> Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about
> Yesterday? -anon
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
>
> From: Laura A. Robinson
> Sent: Mon 11/13/2006 4:31 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
>
>
> Disclaimer #1: "You" in the below refers to a generic "you", not a specific
> person.
>
>
> Disclaimer #2: My opinions are in no way intended to represent those of my
> employer. They're my own, and they were my opinions long before I became a
> Microsoft employee.
>
>
> That said...
>
>
>
>
>
> You know what I find amazing here? It has been clearly expressed that there
> *are* people who find the term irritating (and I assure you, I'm not the
> only one; I'm just the only one who states it publicly), yet you're still
> arguing that because *you* think it's funny, it's therefore okay to use it.
> Please explain this logic to me. If you meet somebody who asks you not to
> call him "Tiny" because he hates the nickname, do you make a point to call
> him "Tiny"? If you do, then you have some serious personal issues. If you
> don't do that, then why do you think it's okay to continue to justify using
> a name on a Microsoft-centric list that is populated by Microsoft-centric
> people that you've been told *is* offensive to some of those people?
>
>
>
>
>
> This isn't about political correctness and it isn't about different senses
> of humor. It's about somebody having stated flat-out that the "M$" term is
> offensive to her (and, again, to a lot more people than you realize) and you
> continuing to assert that it's just fine for you to use it. Some people
> might consider that incredibly childish and ignorant. Did it never occur to
> you simply to not use or defend the use of the term, regardless of whether
> you think I'm oversensitive about it? It certainly occurred to the person
> who originally posted it to stop using the term, and he didn't have to have
> an argument that boils down to "I think it's funny, so you need to just get
> over it" before stating that he wouldn't continue to use the term. I found
> that very adult of him. I don't, however, find it particularly adult to
> continue to defend the use of a tasteless, inaccurate, slighting moniker
> because *you* think it's "funny".
>
>
>
>
>
> Most Microsoft employees are not nearly as well-paid as the public seems to
> think, and yet, the VAST majority of them contribute their own time and
> money to charitable organizations. I can give you statistics if you like;
> Microsoft is actually first in terms of per-capita employee philanthropy.
> The insistence upon referring to the company as "M$" displays a tremendous
> amount of ignorance and rudeness to those employees, IMO.
>
>
>
>
>
> Laura
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
>
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of
> Bahta, Nathaniel V CTR USAF NASIC/SCNA
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 8:44 AM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
>
> Exactly, is exactly right. You cant impose your own humor preferences on
> someone because you consider it unfunny. You just dont laugh. You can't
> stop bad jokes, because someone, somewhere is laughing at them. Just not
> you.
>
>
> ________________________________
>
>
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of
> Laura A. Robinson
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 8:20 AM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
>
>
> Exactly. M$ just isn't funny. Borg, kool-aid, those are funny. M$ isn't. Go
> figure.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
>
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of
> Bahta, Nathaniel V CTR USAF NASIC/SCNA
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:46 AM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
>
> Useless Air Farce would not be found funny because its just that, not funny.
> Funnier is US Chair Force. Thats funny, and people here laugh at it all
> the time.
>
>
> ________________________________
>
>
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of
> Robert Rutherford
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:32 AM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
>
> ;oP
>
>
>
>
> Rob
>
> Robert Rutherford
> QuoStar Solutions Limited
>
> T: +44 (0) 8456 440 331
> F: +44 (0) 8456 440 332
> M: +44 (0) 7974 249 494
> E: robert.rutherford@quostar.com
> W: www.quostar.com
>
>
> ________________________________
>
>
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of
> Laura A. Robinson
> Sent: 13 November 2006 12:16
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
>
>
>
>
> There's a reason for the "OT" portion of the subject line, you know. ;-)
>
>
>
>
>
> Laura
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
>
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of
> Robert Rutherford
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 6:42 AM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
>
> Can we kill this thread now, please?
>
>
>
>
> Rob
>
> Robert Rutherford
> QuoStar Solutions Limited
>
> T: +44 (0) 8456 440 331
> F: +44 (0) 8456 440 332
> M: +44 (0) 7974 249 494
> E: robert.rutherford@quostar.com
> W: www.quostar.com
>
>
> ________________________________
>
>
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of
> Laura A. Robinson
> Sent: 13 November 2006 11:31
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
>
>
>
>
> Clearly there are differing opinions about whether it's merely "slang" or
> whether it's an inappropriate slur. Simpler just not to use it, don't you
> think? I mean, I don't refer to the USAF as the "useless air farce" and
> expect its members to think that's funny.
>
>
>
>
>
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