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01/04/2007 6:47 AM  
The issue is that there is no
automated service inAD/Windowsthat reconciles the SIDs in AD with
those used to ACL the file system; and AD ACLs are separate and disconnected
from the OS ACLs. Imagine deleting a group or user that had permissions on
hundreds of computers around your network the OS on each box would have to
*know* that the useror group was deleted then scan itself for obsolete
SIDs or alternativly some service on the DC could contact each server to scan it
for obsolete SIDs.

As Deji correctly pointed out this is
another example of why you should use groups to do your permissioning... it is
also one of the reasons why many administrators choose to disable user accounts
rather than just delete them when they become obsolete.

Bob


From:
ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org on behalf of YannSent: Thu
1/4/2007 5:35 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject:
RE : RE: [ActiveDir] SID Deleted users remains in NTS
permission.

Thanks for replying.

You say that it isnormalthat the sid still remains in file
& directory ACLs after the deletion of the corresponding group ??

Ialways thought thatsids*HAVE TO*disapear
dynamically on all existing ACLs set on file server.
I'm a bit surprise that the system (AD<->file server) leave this
dirty sid and that there is no synchronisation that updates the "link" between
the AD object and the ACE....

What is the reason ? could this behavior be altering ?

I'd likesid disappears after deletion of the corresponding group
inAD in order to not have this dirty SIDs...

Thanks.

Yann
"Akomolafe, Deji" a
écrit:


It's "normal". You should
be permissioning your resources with groups instead of directly with user
accounts. Groups tend to last longer, so you don't have to deal with the
horrible SIDs.



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From: YannSent: Thu 1/4/2007 1:52
AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir]
SID Deleted users remains in NTS permission.

Hello all & Happy new year ! :)

AD 2k3 sp1 in FFL mode.

When i delete a user or group from AD, and these objects have
permissionson ntfs permissions, i usually see their sids remaining in
those file & directory ACLs.

Is this normal ? If not,what could be the reason(s) & how to
investigate this issue ?

Thanks,

Yann


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