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02/04/2007 2:10 AM  
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-----Mensaje original-----
De: F. Javier Jarava
Enviado el: domingo, 04 de febrero de 2007 20:09
Para: 'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org'
Asunto: RE: [ActiveDir] OT (but only sorta) DST recap

As a matter of fact, I had seen that option in the list (I made a post to
the list a while ago about the "increased" size of the pstools, and the pain
of the EULA, and then saw the announcement of the second "MS" release that
had this "-accepteula" option)... But even tough now we can have the same
functionality back as we had previously, when you forget the switch it's
still a bit of a pain...

I don't mind the pop-up eula on the "GUI" tools, but in the CLI tools I
believe it should be the other way round: show no eula by default, and have
a switch that lets you see it, and perhaps a text on the output saying
something like "use tool.exe -showeula to see the EULA that governs the use
of the tool"... I guess sorf of what the GNU Utils usually do :)

Thanks for reminding me the option, though. I knew it was possible, but
didn't quite remember which it was ;)

JJ

-----Mensaje original-----
De: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] En nombre de Brian Desmond
Enviado el: domingo, 04 de febrero de 2007 19:21
Para: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Asunto: RE: [ActiveDir] OT (but only sorta) DST recap

Psexec -accepteula and the eula goes away.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
brian@briandesmond.com

c - 312.731.3132
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-
> owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Javier Jarava
> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 1:13 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT (but only sorta) DST recap
>
> Duh!!
>
> I had a braino there. I was asking aboutr "psexec" replacements when I
> was
> really thinking about "cpau" :)
>
> I've always used "psexec" for "remote" process creation (ie, to run cmd
> on a
> remote system, usually) and cpau for batch / elevated process creation
> (yes,
> I know joe says the "job" file is not really encrypted so it's not
> really
> 100% safe to do things like that, but ... ). That's the reason I was
> asking
> about replacements/equivalent tools ... of cpau; of course, remote
> process
> launchers like psexec are always useful... Specially now that psexec
> has
> this "pop up eula" functionality (a bit of a PITA, in my view... They
> could
> place the EULA in the donwload pages as vmware does, and let us use the
> tools without eula-bloat...)
>
> In any case, thanks for the fast & accurate responses. Congratulations
> to
> all of you that make this list so worth it :)
>
> Best Regards
>
> JJ
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] En nombre de joe
> Enviado el: domingo, 04 de febrero de 2007 2:44
> Para: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Asunto: RE: [ActiveDir] OT (but only sorta) DST recap
>
> There are quite a few tools out there that do it both free and for
> money. I
> have one up on my website called CPAU which works well with scripting.
> It is
> in use by several major universities and militaries and governments and
> police departments and others. Just go to google and type runas
> replacements
> and you should get quite a few hits.
>
> Note, moving to Vista will likely break most if not all of these tools
> if
> using UAC. Keep that in mind when doing your vista validation.
>
>
> --
> O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition -
> http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Javier Jarava
> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 6:01 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT (but only sorta) DST recap
>
> While I have to agree with all that, OTOH I don't know of any other
> util
> that'll let me script "runas" functionality... Is there any "better" or
> at
> least "equivalent" tool out there?
>
> Would love to hear about it...
>
> Thanks a lot
>
> JJ
>
> ________________________________
>
> De: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] En nombre de joe
> Enviado el: viernes, 02 de febrero de 2007 23:05
> Para: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Asunto: RE: [ActiveDir] OT (but only sorta) DST recap
>
>
> psexec is nice but it is rather annoying how it always installs a
> service on
> every machine you send commands too. It needed a switch to say don't
> install
> the damn service every time, just once and then use it every other time
> unless it has been updated. You get a machine that is a bit touchy and
> psexec can easily push it over the edge. Alternately if you have a
> company
> that uses change control, they should be bitching everytime you install
> and
> remove a service from a server like that.
>
>
> --
> O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition -
> http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Michael B.
> Smith
> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 3:58 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT (but only sorta) DST recap
>
>
>
> I'm rather fond of psexec myself.
>
>
>
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of hboogz
> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 12:17 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT (but only sorta) DST recap
>
>
>
> great find. Thanks.
>
> The one concern with the quiet roll out is the mandatory admin
> privileges
> requirement. My initial thinking would to include a "makemeadmin"
> command-line argument in the batch file ? or another temporary rights
> elevation tool ?
>
> i'm starting to lean to the idea that the exchange patch is OS
> agnostic.
>
>
>
>
> On 2/2/07, Michael B. Smith > wrote:
>
> This looks good, and is free: http://www.intelliadmin.com/Downloads.htm
> (Windows 2000 DST Fix)
>
>
>
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:
> ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
> ] On Behalf Of hboogz
> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 11:24 AM
>
>
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT (but only sorta) DST recap
>
>
>
> Update all windows 2000 boxes manually using txedit or pay an
> approximate
> $4000 tool to automatically roll them out ? those are the two options
> for
> customers that have windows 2000 boxes left ?
>
> any insight on the exchange 2003 on top of win2k server question ?
>
>
>
> On 2/2/07, Brian Cline wrote:
>
> Yes, from what I understand that is the case. Good incentive to upgrade
> them
> - although that's easy for me to say as we only have two W2k machines
> left
> here. (One is a actually DC that will be demoted and decommissioned
> very
> soon.)
>
>
>
> Brian Cline, Applications Developer
> Department of Information Technology
> G&P Trucking Company, Inc.
> 803.936.8595 Direct Line
> 800.922.1147 Toll-Free (x8595)
> 803.739.1176 Fax
>
>
>
>
>
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:
> ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
> ] On Behalf Of hboogz
> Sent: Friday 02 February 2007 10:37
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT (but only sorta) DST recap
>
>
>
> I may be getting in on the tail end of this -- but to clarify, if you
> still
> have Windows 2000 boxes (Servers,Clients) you're going to have to pay
> $4,000
> to get DST patches ?
>
> On 2/2/07, Brian Cline wrote:
>
> Back in 2005, everyone was likely thinking, "oh that's way down the
> line
> in 2007, we can change those few lines of code later." Come to find out
> it's a bit more involved than that, and it was almost right around the
> corner. As mean as it sounds, I hope they feel the heat for it.
>
> Brian Cline, Applications Developer
> Department of Information Technology
> G&P Trucking Company, Inc.
> 803.936.8595 Direct Line
> 800.922.1147 Toll-Free (x8595)
> 803.739.1176 Fax
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
> [mailto: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
> ] On Behalf Of Susan
> Bradley,
> CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
> Sent: Friday 02 February 2007 00:28
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: [ActiveDir] OT (but only sorta) DST recap
>
> http://blogs.technet.com/hied_west_blog/archive/2007/02/01/dst-2007-
> upda
> upda>
> te-outlook-time-zone-data-update-tool-released-february-1-2007.aspx
>
> For something that was signed into law in 2005...it seems like there's
> still a lot of products that need patches... but nice recap
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