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sbradcpa
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 | | 03/02/2008 2:22 AM |
| <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=windows-1252" http-equiv="Content-Type"> <title></title> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> I wouldn't consider myself a superb admin, I don't do vb script or powershell. I'm a GUI loving stubborn female is all who knows that every time there's a crappy app that refuses to run under Vista/UAC that it's a sign that it hasn't been recoded since it was first built in the Win95 era.
I've sent a laptop overseas with a user that hadn't seen/used Vista before. What I see is that the more savvy user fights Vista the most, not the one that is the less savvy embraces it.
The more savvy they are, the more they are "I'm admin, shut up and let me do what I want".
I'd argue that the biggest issue is still that we don't have good enough information on getting crappy apps to install and behave.
What exactly did he fight? Be specific please because I do plan to shoot this feedback to some folks I know.
Albert Duro wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:015501c87c23$d6cb0cb0$800101df@maiam.local" type="cite"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; "> <meta content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.3243" name="GENERATOR"> <style>@font-face { font-family: Cambria Math; } @font-face { font-family: Cambria; } @font-face { font-family: Calibri; } @font-face { font-family: Tahoma; } @page Section1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in; } P.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman","serif" } LI.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman","serif" } DIV.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman","serif" } H4 { FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; COLOR: black; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman","serif"; mso-style-priority: 9; mso-style-link: "Heading 4 Char"; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto } A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; mso-style-priority: 99 } SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; mso-style-priority: 99 } A:visited { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; mso-style-priority: 99 } SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; mso-style-priority: 99 } P { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; COLOR: black; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman","serif"; mso-style-priority: 99; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto } SPAN.Heading4Char { FONT-WEIGHT: bold; COLOR: #4f81bd; FONT-STYLE: italic; FONT-FAMILY: "Cambria","serif"; mso-style-priority: 9; mso-style-link: "Heading 4"; mso-style-name: "Heading 4 Char" } SPAN.EmailStyle19 { COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-style-type: personal } SPAN.EmailStyle21 { COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-style-type: personal-reply } .MsoChpDefault { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-style-type: export-only } DIV.Section1 { page: Section1 } OL { MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in } UL { MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in } </style> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" /> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapelayout v:ext="edit"> <o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" /> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--> <div><font size="2">Which only proves what we already knew, that you and Susan are superb admins at the top of our profession, capable of taming an immense herd of wild silicons (i.e. a beach) into a passable network.</font></div> <div> </div> <div><font size="2">It does not change the fact that a large, perhaps overwhelming, portion of the user base sees Vista as a hostile OS -- malware, if you will -- and are not going to put up with it, nor sweet talked into it. </font></div> <div> </div> <div><font size="2">Nor do all your excellent points address the growing crisis in our industry. THAT is that is the real issue in this discussion, not Vista per se. It won't go away by just trying to ignore it.</font></div> <div> </div> <div><font size="2">Yes, there has been product shock and user resistance before -- I've been through all of them. But always before, there has been give-and-take on all sides until we all met in a sort-of-happy middle. This time, all I see after more than a year is intractability. The users are moving back or sideways, and MS is not moving at all -- just making embarassed noises in the corner it has painted itself into.</font></div> <div> </div> <div><font size="2">Susan: my friend just couldn't get any use out of Vista and got tired of fighting with it. Mind you, this is no novice, and I had adjusted his Vista to be as Classic as possible. Never a power user, but he's been using PCs for his business since the early DOS days, and has navigated all the OS evolutions. Until now.</font></div> <div> </div> <blockquote dir="ltr" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;"> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">----- Original Message ----- </div> <div style="background: rgb(228, 228, 228) none repeat scroll 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial; font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>From:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true" title="michael@TheEssentialExchange.com" href="javascript:window.location.replace('ma'+'ilto:'+'michael'+'@'+'TheEssentialExchange'+'.com')">Michael B. Smith</a> </div> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true" title="ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org" href="javascript:window.location.replace('ma'+'ilto:'+'ActiveDir'+'@'+'mail'+'.activedir')".org">ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org</a> </div> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:38 AM</div> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b> RE: [ActiveDir] OT: (sorta) Basics of common compatibility issues. </div> <div>
</div> <div class="Section1"> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">I run Vista and I like it. A lot. Same with Office 2007.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">There is a major learning curve associated with becoming facile with the changed features of both. THAT’s unfortunate. But once you’ve overcome the hump – I think they are much more intuitive and easy to use.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">The Session 0 change? Had to happen. It was possible for malware to easily inject messages into privileged system processes.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">The UAC change? Had to happen. Users refused to stop clicking on stuff that would harm their computers – and blamed it on MSFT.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">The Installation permissions change? Had to happen. See above.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">The IE changes? Had to happen. See above. ActiveX has been blamed for EVERYTHING even though it’s arguably one of the greatest helper technologies that MSFT developed.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">If some companies/people/groups aren’t ready to upgrade – that’s fine. I blame much of the issues on the various developers and partners for not getting off their butts and releasing drivers and updates more quickly – and not charging for those updates to otherwise current software.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">Just another person’s perspective. ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">Michael B. Smith<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">MCSE/Exchange MVP<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://TheEssentialExchange.com">http://TheEssentialExchange.com</a></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';"><o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <div> <div style="border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(181, 196, 223) -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt medium medium; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"> <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: windowtext; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: windowtext; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="javascript:window.location.replace('ma'+'ilto:'+'ActiveDir-owner'+'@'+'mail'+'.activedir')".org">ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="javascript:window.location.replace('ma'+'ilto:'+'ActiveDir-owner'+'@'+'mail'+'.activedir')".org">mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Albert Duro
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, March 01, 2008 12:16 PM
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="javascript:window.location.replace('ma'+'ilto:'+'ActiveDir'+'@'+'mail'+'.activedir')".org">ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org</a>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ActiveDir] OT: (sorta) Basics of common compatibility issues. <o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> </div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: windowtext;">You're right, we've been through this before, and always I've stuck with MS, and I still do. But Vista, or NewBob as I call it, is different.</span><span style="color: windowtext;"><o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: windowtext;">Look at the article. It starts by saying that it's about "new and extended features". FEATURES?</span><span style="color: windowtext;"><o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: windowtext;">Turns out every 'feature' is a case of Vista wrestling itself to the ground.</span><span style="color: windowtext;"><o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: windowtext;">Discussing the merits and demerits of Vista is beside the point any more, and done to death anyway. What I'm trying to say is that us grunt admins and consumers aren't buying it -- both literally and metaphorically.</span><span style="color: windowtext;"><o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: windowtext;">I just spent a whole weekend eradicating Vista from a friend's new PC. He runs a small business that depends heavily on computers, and Vista had ground his business to a halt. </span><span style="color: windowtext;"><o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: windowtext;">That's one story in the Naked Vista City. There are a million more.</span><span style="color: windowtext;"><o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: windowtext;"> <o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color black; border-width: medium medium medium 1.5pt; margin: 5pt 0in 5pt 3.75pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 4pt;"> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: windowtext; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';">----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="background: rgb(228, 228, 228) none repeat scroll 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: windowtext; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: windowtext; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';"> <a moz-do-not-send="true" title="michael@TheEssentialExchange.com" href="javascript:window.location.replace('ma'+'ilto:'+'michael'+'@'+'TheEssentialExchange'+'.com')">Michael B. Smith</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: windowtext; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';">To:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: windowtext; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';"> <a moz-do-not-send="true" title="ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org" href="javascript:window.location.replace('ma'+'ilto:'+'ActiveDir'+'@'+'mail'+'.activedir')".org">ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: windowtext; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';">Sent:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: windowtext; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';"> Saturday, March 01, 2008 8:15 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: windowtext; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';">Subject:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: windowtext; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';"> RE: [ActiveDir] OT: (sorta) Basics of common compatibility issues. <o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: windowtext;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> </div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">Microsoft just can’t win.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">They either change the system to be more secure and incorporate new technologies – and by doing so break backward compatibility – or they leave things alone and get slammed for not being innovative and keeping up with the times.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">It hasn’t been that long ago when everyone was complaining about XP, and then 2000 before that, etc. etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">Michael B. Smith<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">MCSE/Exchange MVP<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://TheEssentialExchange.com">http://TheEssentialExchange.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <div> <div style="border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(181, 196, 223) -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt medium medium; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"> <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: windowtext; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: windowtext; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="javascript:window.location.replace('ma'+'ilto:'+'ActiveDir-owner'+'@'+'mail'+'.activedir')".org">ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="javascript:window.location.replace('ma'+'ilto:'+'ActiveDir-owner'+'@'+'mail'+'.activedir')".org">mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Albert Duro
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, March 01, 2008 11:04 AM
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="javascript:window.location.replace('ma'+'ilto:'+'ActiveDir'+'@'+'mail'+'.activedir')".org">ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org</a>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ActiveDir] OT: (sorta) Basics of common compatibility issues. <o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> </div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Windows XP, anyone?</span><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Linux, anyone?</span><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">or even (biting my tongue bloody as I say it) Mac OS, anyone?</span><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color black; border-width: medium medium medium 1.5pt; margin: 5pt 0in 5pt 3.75pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 4pt;"> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';">----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="background: rgb(228, 228, 228) none repeat scroll 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';"> <a moz-do-not-send="true" title="sbradcpa@pacbell.net" href="javascript:window.location.replace('ma'+'ilto:'+'sbradcpa'+'@'+'pacbell'+'.net')">Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';">To:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';"> <a moz-do-not-send="true" title="ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org" href="javascript:window.location.replace('ma'+'ilto:'+'ActiveDir'+'@'+'mail'+'.activedir')".org">ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';">Sent:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';"> Thursday, February 28, 2008 12:07 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';">Subject:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';"> [ActiveDir] OT: (sorta) Basics of common compatibility issues. <o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <h4>Where do I start? <o:p></o:p></h4> <div> <p>When you work on a given subject for a while, you tend to jump right in and forget to start at the beginning. In the Application Compatibility lab, we kick off the week with an overview presentation and cover the basics of common compatibility issues. Those topics are probably a good place to start with this blog.<o:p></o:p></p> <p>The first thing to mention is the <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa480152.aspx">Application Compatibility Cookbook</a>. <strong>This is the primer of Application Compatibility.</strong> I was going to call it the <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_C_Programming_Language_%28book%29">K&R</a> of of Application Compatibility but I don't want to date myself ;-). I highly recommend reading the cookbook or at least keep it handy for a reference.<o:p></o:p></p> <p>Now that you've looked at the cookbook (Go look at it now if you haven't), you are probably saying, "Whew, that's a lot of stuff. Can you just tell me the top issues with Application Compatibility?" So, let's start with a list of the top areas of issues:<o:p></o:p></p> <p><strong>User Account Control (UAC):</strong><o:p></o:p></p> <p>UAC is intended to run applications as standard user by default. Even if you are a member of the administrators group, applications that are not marked to run with administrator privileges will run with reduced "standard user" rights. Applications may not be designed to run as a standard user and may not have rights or privileges to certain resources.<o:p></o:p></p> <p>Next steps if you have an issue:<o:p></o:p></p> <ul type="disc"> <li class="MsoNormal" style=""><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa480152.aspx#appcomp_topic4">UAC in the Cookbook</a> <o:p></o:p> </li> <li class="MsoNormal" style=""><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa905330.aspx">Windows Vista Application Development Requirements for User Account Control (UAC)</a> <o:p></o:p></li> </ul> <p><strong>Installation</strong><o:p></o:p></p> <p>Installation issues usually revolve around UAC. Almost all installers need to run with admin rights because they usually write to Program Files or HKLM in the registry. MSI issues usually revolve around custom actions being run in the wrong context (user or admin).<o:p></o:p></p> <p>Next steps if you have an issue:<o:p></o:p></p> <ul type="disc"> <li class="MsoNormal" style="">MSI Installer issues - See <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://blogs.msdn.com/rflaming/archive/2006/10/01/uac-in-msi-notes-answers-to-questions-in-comments-from-earlier-blog-posts.aspx">rflaming's blog</a> <o:p></o:p> </li> <li class="MsoNormal" style="">Custom installer issues with UAC - See installer topics under <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa480152.aspx#appcomp_topic4">UAC in the Cookbook</a> <o:p></o:p></li> </ul> <p><strong>Service Isolation</strong><o:p></o:p></p> <p>On Vista and Windows Server 2008, only services run in session 0. Desktop applications run in sessions 1+n. This blocks Windows messages between services and desktop apps. This also blocks services from displaying UI on the desktop.<o:p></o:p></p> <p>Next steps if you have and issue:<o:p></o:p></p> <ul type="disc"> <li class="MsoNormal" style=""><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa480152.aspx#appcomp_topic12">Session 0 Isolation</a> in the cookbook <o:p></o:p></li> </ul> <p><strong>Internet Explorer Protected Mode</strong><o:p></o:p></p> <p>IE in protected mode is sometimes called "Low Rights IE". When protected mode is on, IE runs at a low integrity level. This isolates IE from the rest of the processes and resources on the system. ActiveX controls and browser objects may not have appropriate rights running in protected mode.<o:p></o:p></p> <p>Next steps if you have an issue:<o:p></o:p></p> <ul type="disc"> <li class="MsoNormal" style=""><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa480152.aspx#appcomp_topic8">IE protected mode</a> in the cookbook <o:p></o:p> </li> <li class="MsoNormal" style=""><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb250462.aspx">Understanding and Working in Protected Mode Internet Explorer</a> <o:p></o:p></li> </ul> <p>That's it for now. One final note, the area for all things regarding Application Compatibility can be found on <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsvista/aa905066.aspx">Technet</a>.<o:p></o:p></p> <p><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://blogs.msdn.com/patricka/archive/2008/02/27/welcome-to-my-blog.aspx">http://blogs.msdn.com/patricka/archive/2008/02/27/welcome-to-my-blog.aspx</a><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <p class="MsoNormal">List info : <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx">http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx</a> List FAQ : <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx">http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx</a> List archive: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx">http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx</a><o:p></o:p></p> </blockquote> </blockquote> </div> </blockquote> </blockquote> </body> </html> List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx
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