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DavidCliffe
Posts:15
 | | 08/25/2005 4:38 AM |
| Hi -
I've posted this
elsewhere, but thought maybe not a bad idea to run it past this list for those
that don't mind (thanks). I've seen the following behavior with regard to this hotfix 903235:
(1) The
bulletin MS05-037 states to check
here for its existence (post installation):
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\ActiveX
Compatibility\{03D9F3F2-B0E3-11D2-B081-006008039BF0}
In the past, the 'norm' for IExpress-type patches has been here:HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Active Setup\Installed
Components\{8ade8c02-8da6-4ec1-a9ee-ec00ff73ce98} [note: GUID above is specific to this
hotfix] Why this change in
documentation?(2) I find that the SRVINFO tool does NOT identify
this hotfix on SP1 (XP) and SP4 (2000) machines. Was expecting to see it
under the "Internet Explorer 6" subheading of the SRVINFO output for these
O/S.(3) I find that MBSA v.2 neither identifies it
as installed nor identifies it as missing on
SP1/2 (XP) and SP4 (2000) machines. Can
anyone else corrorborate these findings? I'm told by our TAM that
nobody else has reported this yet.Thanks!
-DaveC
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| deji
Posts:262
| | 08/25/2005 5:52 AM |
| Probably because the "patch" is not really installing anything new for IE. It
is just setting a "killbit", setting the compatibility mode to 1024 so IE
doesn't call that component any longer.
Just a SWAG. But that would explain why you don't see anything under
installed components (I haven't checked).
BTW, srvinfo reports 903235 under "Windows Server 2003" here - I don't have
an XP handy. I'm guessing it's not under IE because it's not technically an
IE fix.
Sincerely,
Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCP+I
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
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Yesterday? -anon
________________________________
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of David Cliffe
Sent: Thu 8/25/2005 9:34 AM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Questions about hotfix 903235 (MS05-037)
Hi -
I've posted this elsewhere, but thought maybe not a bad idea to run it
past this list for those that don't mind (thanks). I've seen the following
behavior with regard to this hotfix 903235:
(1) The bulletin MS05-037 states to check here for its existence (post
installation):
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\ActiveX
Compatibility\{03D9F3F2-B0E3-11D2-B081-006008039BF0}
In the past, the 'norm' for IExpress-type patches has been here:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Active Setup\Installed
Components\{8ade8c02-8da6-4ec1-a9ee-ec00ff73ce98}
[note: GUID above is specific to this hotfix] Why this change in
documentation?
(2) I find that the SRVINFO tool does NOT identify this hotfix on SP1 (XP)
and SP4 (2000) machines. Was expecting to see it under the "Internet
Explorer 6" subheading of the SRVINFO output for these O/S.
(3) I find that MBSA v.2 neither identifies it as installed nor identifies
it as missing on SP1/2 (XP) and SP4 (2000) machines.
Can anyone else corrorborate these findings? I'm told by our TAM that
nobody else has reported this yet.
Thanks!
-DaveC
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| rkingsla@xxxx.yyy
| | 08/25/2005 6:12 AM |
| Inline¦¦.
From:
ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Cliffe
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005
11:34 AM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Questions
about hotfix 903235 (MS05-037)
Hi -
I've posted this elsewhere, but thought
maybe not a bad idea to run it past this list for those that don't mind
(thanks). I've seen the following behavior with regard to
this hotfix 903235:
(1) The bulletin MS05-037 states to check here for its
existence (post installation):
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\ActiveX
Compatibility\{03D9F3F2-B0E3-11D2-B081-006008039BF0}
In the past, the 'norm' for IExpress-type patches has been here:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Active Setup\Installed
Components\{8ade8c02-8da6-4ec1-a9ee-ec00ff73ce98}
[note: GUID above is specific to this hotfix] Why this change in documentation?
[RTK] Not a change in documentation.
The hotfix sets bits in the running of the actual component, so the compatibility
flags are manipulated, rather than new moving parts. I acknowledge that the
location changes, but this is due to how the hotfix effects the installed component,
JView Profiler.
(2) I find that the SRVINFO tool does NOT identify this hotfix on SP1 (XP) and
SP4 (2000) machines. Was
expecting to see it under the "Internet Explorer 6" subheading of the
SRVINFO output for these O/S.
[RTK] Can™t confirm or deny this one¦..
Don™t have SRVINFO currently on anything
(3) I find that MBSA v.2 neither identifies it as installed nor
identifies it as missing on SP1/2 (XP) and SP4 (2000) machines.
Can anyone else corrorborate
these findings? I'm told by our TAM that nobody else has
reported this yet.
[RTK] MBSA on my systems detect that
it is either installed or not
installed.
Thanks!
-DaveC
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| DavidCliffe
Posts:15
| | 08/25/2005 7:34 AM |
| Thanks Rick/Deji.
Interesting that your MBSA v2 is reporting on it OK. Maybe I am the
only one :-o
I have worked around issues (2) and (3) [below] for
now, and will take a moment to offer my opinion on
(1).
Here we have a hotfix/bulletin that has been given a critical
rating, as have many other hotfixes before and after it. From
a customer's viewpoint, I would like some consistency in the manner in
which these hotfixes are reported as being installed. This has gotten
better by the way, but I don't find 903235 to be a good
example.
During the time when I am reporting on installed instances, the
technical details about each hotfix (what it does/how it does it) are not
important to me. I want to verify it's been
installed and I want to rely on a consistent method to do
so.
In this particular case, if there are OS/SP specific reasons why one reg
key has to be used in favor of another, then so be it, but then I suggest
there may be an error in the documented bulletin, where at least the XP SP2
section should direct us to the "Installed Components" subkey, rather than
the "ActiveX Compatibility" subkey.
-DaveC
Reuters IS&T Service
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From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rick
KingslanSent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 2:11 PMTo:
ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Questions
about hotfix 903235 (MS05-037)
Inline¦¦.
From:
ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of David
CliffeSent: Thursday, August
25, 2005 11:34 AMTo:
ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [ActiveDir] OT: Questions about
hotfix 903235 (MS05-037)
Hi
-
I've posted this
elsewhere, but thought maybe not a bad idea to run it past this list for those
that don't mind (thanks). I've seen the following behavior
with regard to this hotfix 903235:
(1) The bulletin MS05-037
states to check here for its existence (post
installation):
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet
Explorer\ActiveX
Compatibility\{03D9F3F2-B0E3-11D2-B081-006008039BF0} In the past, the
'norm' for IExpress-type patches has been here:HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Active
Setup\Installed
Components\{8ade8c02-8da6-4ec1-a9ee-ec00ff73ce98} [note:
GUID above is specific to this hotfix] Why this change in documentation?
[RTK] Not a
change in documentation. The hotfix sets bits in the running of the actual
component, so the compatibility flags are manipulated, rather than new moving
parts. I acknowledge that the location changes, but this is due to how the
hotfix effects the installed component, JView Profiler.
(2) I find that the SRVINFO
tool does NOT identify this hotfix on SP1 (XP) and SP4 (2000) machines.
Was expecting to see it under the
"Internet Explorer 6" subheading of the SRVINFO output for these
O/S.
[RTK] Can™t confirm or
deny this one¦.. Don™t have SRVINFO currently on
anything
(3) I find that MBSA
v.2 neither identifies it as installed nor identifies it as missing on
SP1/2 (XP) and SP4 (2000) machines. Can anyone else corrorborate these
findings? I'm told by our TAM that nobody else has reported
this yet.
[RTK] MBSA on my
systems detect that it is either
installed or not installed.
Thanks!
-DaveC
Reuters IS&T Service
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