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| kevinbrunson
Posts:40
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| You definitely want to do some research on this. But quick answer is it will screw up your world.
-----Original Message----- From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Mark Parris (L) Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 12:54 PM To: ActiveDir Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server
A simple question, can I rename a Windows 2003 SP1 server running Exchange 2003 SP2 server without causing Exchange any grief or masses of reconfiguration?
I apologise if this answer is available elsewhere, but I am on my BlackBerry and unable to research this directly.
Many thanks,
Regards,
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| sbradcpa
Posts:299
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| You Had Me At EHLO... : Exchange and Domain Rename Operations: http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2004/08/30/222719.aspx
Technically speaking in the 2k3 era it is supported. Still gives many of us heart attacks but a SBS MVP did this on a SBS 2003 box and while Exchange survived the process, it was SharePoint that hated the trip the most.
Kevin Brunson wrote: > You definitely want to do some research on this. But quick answer is it will screw up your world. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Mark Parris (L) > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 12:54 PM > To: ActiveDir > Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server > > > A simple question, can I rename a Windows 2003 SP1 server running Exchange 2003 SP2 server without causing Exchange any grief or masses of reconfiguration? > > I apologise if this answer is available elsewhere, but I am on my BlackBerry and unable to research this directly. > > Many thanks, > > > > > > Regards, > > Mark Parris > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx
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| guyt1799190425
Posts:36
 | | 04/29/2008 3:10 PM |
| Susan,
He wants to rename the Exchange server and not the domain. The computer name rename of Exchange will definitely break things - all the user attributes will point to old name, the Exchange Org settings will contain the old name and I'm almost sure the Exchange services will not even start and no xdr-fixup will save the day (it only deals with domain/forest NCs rename and not with computer name rename).
Guy
-----Original Message----- From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 9:53 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server
You Had Me At EHLO... : Exchange and Domain Rename Operations: http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2004/08/30/222719.aspx
Technically speaking in the 2k3 era it is supported. Still gives many of us heart attacks but a SBS MVP did this on a SBS 2003 box and while Exchange survived the process, it was SharePoint that hated the trip the
most.
Kevin Brunson wrote: > You definitely want to do some research on this. But quick answer is it will screw up your world. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Mark Parris (L) > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 12:54 PM > To: ActiveDir > Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server > > > A simple question, can I rename a Windows 2003 SP1 server running Exchange 2003 SP2 server without causing Exchange any grief or masses of reconfiguration? > > I apologise if this answer is available elsewhere, but I am on my BlackBerry and unable to research this directly. > > Many thanks, > > > > > > Regards, > > Mark Parris > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx
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| sbradcpa
Posts:299
 | | 04/29/2008 3:20 PM |
| Ah 'cuse me .. didn't read well enough.
Yeah we tested out domain rename, not computer rename.
Guy Teverovsky wrote: > Susan, > > He wants to rename the Exchange server and not the domain. The computer > name rename of Exchange will definitely break things - all the user > attributes will point to old name, the Exchange Org settings will > contain the old name and I'm almost sure the Exchange services will not > even start and no xdr-fixup will save the day (it only deals with > domain/forest NCs rename and not with computer name rename). > > Guy > > -----Original Message----- > From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org > [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, > CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 9:53 PM > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server > > You Had Me At EHLO... : Exchange and Domain Rename Operations: > http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2004/08/30/222719.aspx > > Technically speaking in the 2k3 era it is supported. Still gives many > of us heart attacks but a SBS MVP did this on a SBS 2003 box and while > Exchange survived the process, it was SharePoint that hated the trip the > > most. > > > Kevin Brunson wrote: > >> You definitely want to do some research on this. But quick answer is >> > it will screw up your world. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org >> > [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Mark Parris (L) > >> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 12:54 PM >> To: ActiveDir >> Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server >> >> >> A simple question, can I rename a Windows 2003 SP1 server running >> > Exchange 2003 SP2 server without causing Exchange any grief or masses of > reconfiguration? > >> I apologise if this answer is available elsewhere, but I am on my >> > BlackBerry and unable to research this directly. > >> Many thanks, >> >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Mark Parris >> List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx >> List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx >> List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx >> List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx >> List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx >> List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx >> >> >> > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx
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| impeeza
Posts:3
 | | 04/29/2008 3:25 PM |
| never is a good idea rename a Exchange server, they are a lot of permisions and configurations in A.D. associted to machine account, the bes ever is install a new Exchange server and migrate the server then remove the old
Carlos Mario Álvarez MCPID 1227257 Medellín, Colombia
> From: deji@readymaids.com> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:03:01 -0700> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server> > It will cause you a lot of pains if you don't get off the Blackberry and do some googling.> > Sincerely,> _____> (, / | /) /) /)> /---| (/_ ______ ___// _ // _> ) / |_/(__(_) // (_(_)(/_(_(_/(__(/_> (_/ /)> (/> Microsoft MVP - Directory Services> www.akomolafe.name - we know IT> -5.75, -3.23> Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday? -anon> ________________________________________> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Mark Parris (L) [lists@baseit.co.uk]> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 10:53 AM> To: ActiveDir> Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server> > A simple question, can I rename a Windows 2003 SP1 server running Exchange 2003 SP2 server without causing Exchange any grief or masses of reconfiguration?> > I apologise if this answer is available elsewhere, but I am on my BlackBerry and unable to research this directly.> > Many thanks,> > > > > > Regards,> > Mark Parris> List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx> List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx> List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx> List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx> List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx> List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx _________________________________________________________________ Send funny voice messages packed with tidbits from MSN. Everyone wants to be ready. http://www.noonewantstolookdumb.com?OCID=T001MSN54N1613A
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| kevinbrunson
Posts:40
 | | 04/29/2008 3:25 PM |
| And while it is not as big a deal, IIS www doesn't handle name changes very well either.
-----Original Message----- From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Guy Teverovsky Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 2:06 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server
Susan,
He wants to rename the Exchange server and not the domain. The computer name rename of Exchange will definitely break things - all the user attributes will point to old name, the Exchange Org settings will contain the old name and I'm almost sure the Exchange services will not even start and no xdr-fixup will save the day (it only deals with domain/forest NCs rename and not with computer name rename).
Guy
-----Original Message----- From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 9:53 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server
You Had Me At EHLO... : Exchange and Domain Rename Operations: http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2004/08/30/222719.aspx
Technically speaking in the 2k3 era it is supported. Still gives many of us heart attacks but a SBS MVP did this on a SBS 2003 box and while Exchange survived the process, it was SharePoint that hated the trip the
most.
Kevin Brunson wrote: > You definitely want to do some research on this. But quick answer is it will screw up your world. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Mark Parris (L) > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 12:54 PM > To: ActiveDir > Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server > > > A simple question, can I rename a Windows 2003 SP1 server running Exchange 2003 SP2 server without causing Exchange any grief or masses of reconfiguration? > > I apologise if this answer is available elsewhere, but I am on my BlackBerry and unable to research this directly. > > Many thanks, > > > > > > Regards, > > Mark Parris > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx
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| guyt1799190425
Posts:36
 | | 04/29/2008 3:30 PM |
| If you rename, preserve the computer account/SID, this is not an issue.
I can think of a way of renaming Exchange server and getting away, but it will probably require some code/script to scan the AD for references of the old name and replace with the new one. Not the kind of surgery you want to perform in production, even after thoroughly testing in lab.
Guy
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Mario ?lvarez Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 10:18 PM To: activedir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server
never is a good idea rename a Exchange server, they are a lot of permisions and configurations in A.D. associted to machine account, the bes ever is install a new Exchange server and migrate the server then remove the old
Carlos Mario Álvarez
MCPID 1227257
Medellín, Colombia
________________________________
> From: deji@readymaids.com > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:03:01 -0700 > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server > > It will cause you a lot of pains if you don't get off the Blackberry and do some googling. > > Sincerely, > _____ > (, / | /) /) /) > /---| (/_ ______ ___// _ // _ > ) / |_/(__(_) // (_(_)(/_(_(_/(__(/_ > (_/ /) > (/ > Microsoft MVP - Directory Services > www.akomolafe.name - we know IT > -5.75, -3.23 > Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday? -anon > ________________________________________ > From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Mark Parris (L) [lists@baseit.co.uk] > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 10:53 AM > To: ActiveDir > Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server > > A simple question, can I rename a Windows 2003 SP1 server running Exchange 2003 SP2 server without causing Exchange any grief or masses of reconfiguration? > > I apologise if this answer is available elsewhere, but I am on my BlackBerry and unable to research this directly. > > Many thanks, > > > > > > Regards, > > Mark Parris > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx
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| impeeza
Posts:3
 | | 04/29/2008 3:50 PM |
| That's is no totally true, and the config in AD is pointing to name no SID, so change name lost a lot of configs. Carlos Mario Álvarez MCPID 1227257 Medellín, Colombia
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 ServerDate: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:30:16 +0300From: guyt@smartx.co.ilTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
If you rename, preserve the computer account/SID, this is not an issue. I can think of a way of renaming Exchange server and getting away, but it will probably require some code/script to scan the AD for references of the old name and replace with the new one. Not the kind of surgery you want to perform in production, even after thoroughly testing in lab.
Guy
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Mario ?lvarezSent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 10:18 PMTo: activedir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server
never is a good idea rename a Exchange server, they are a lot of permisions and configurations in A.D. associted to machine account, the bes ever is install a new Exchange server and migrate the server then remove the old
Carlos Mario Álvarez
MCPID 1227257
Medellín, Colombia
> From: deji@readymaids.com> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:03:01 -0700> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server> > It will cause you a lot of pains if you don't get off the Blackberry and do some googling.> > Sincerely,> _____> (, / | /) /) /)> /---| (/_ ______ ___// _ // _> ) / |_/(__(_) // (_(_)(/_(_(_/(__(/_> (_/ /)> (/> Microsoft MVP - Directory Services> www.akomolafe.name - we know IT> -5.75, -3.23> Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday? -anon> ________________________________________> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Mark Parris (L) [lists@baseit.co.uk]> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 10:53 AM> To: ActiveDir> Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server> > A simple question, can I rename a Windows 2003 SP1 server running Exchange 2003 SP2 server without causing Exchange any grief or masses of reconfiguration?> > I apologise if this answer is available elsewhere, but I am on my BlackBerry and unable to research this directly.> > Many thanks,> > > > > > Regards,> > Mark Parris> List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx> List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx> List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx> List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx> List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx> List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx
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| michael1
Posts:178
 | | 04/29/2008 4:26 PM |
| Ah. Renaming an Exchange server is absolutely not supported.
Regards,
Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com
-----Original Message----- From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Guy Teverovsky Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 3:06 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server
Susan,
He wants to rename the Exchange server and not the domain. The computer name rename of Exchange will definitely break things - all the user attributes will point to old name, the Exchange Org settings will contain the old name and I'm almost sure the Exchange services will not even start and no xdr-fixup will save the day (it only deals with domain/forest NCs rename and not with computer name rename).
Guy
-----Original Message----- From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 9:53 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server
You Had Me At EHLO... : Exchange and Domain Rename Operations: http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2004/08/30/222719.aspx
Technically speaking in the 2k3 era it is supported. Still gives many of us heart attacks but a SBS MVP did this on a SBS 2003 box and while Exchange survived the process, it was SharePoint that hated the trip the
most.
Kevin Brunson wrote: > You definitely want to do some research on this. But quick answer is it will screw up your world. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Mark Parris (L) > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 12:54 PM > To: ActiveDir > Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server > > > A simple question, can I rename a Windows 2003 SP1 server running Exchange 2003 SP2 server without causing Exchange any grief or masses of reconfiguration? > > I apologise if this answer is available elsewhere, but I am on my BlackBerry and unable to research this directly. > > Many thanks, > > > > > > Regards, > > Mark Parris > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx
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| dmitrig
Posts:59
 | | 04/29/2008 4:31 PM |
| Assuming you have another mailbox server, you should move all mailboxes there, then uninstall Exchange, rename or flatten the machine, reinstall Exchange, and move mailboxes back. I suppose that's the only way that has a chance to be supported.
Dmitri
-----Original Message----- From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 1:22 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server
Ah. Renaming an Exchange server is absolutely not supported.
Regards,
Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com
-----Original Message----- From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Guy Teverovsky Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 3:06 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server
Susan,
He wants to rename the Exchange server and not the domain. The computer name rename of Exchange will definitely break things - all the user attributes will point to old name, the Exchange Org settings will contain the old name and I'm almost sure the Exchange services will not even start and no xdr-fixup will save the day (it only deals with domain/forest NCs rename and not with computer name rename).
Guy
-----Original Message----- From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 9:53 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server
You Had Me At EHLO... : Exchange and Domain Rename Operations: http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2004/08/30/222719.aspx
Technically speaking in the 2k3 era it is supported. Still gives many of us heart attacks but a SBS MVP did this on a SBS 2003 box and while Exchange survived the process, it was SharePoint that hated the trip the
most.
Kevin Brunson wrote: > You definitely want to do some research on this. But quick answer is it will screw up your world. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Mark Parris (L) > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 12:54 PM > To: ActiveDir > Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server > > > A simple question, can I rename a Windows 2003 SP1 server running Exchange 2003 SP2 server without causing Exchange any grief or masses of reconfiguration? > > I apologise if this answer is available elsewhere, but I am on my BlackBerry and unable to research this directly. > > Many thanks, > > > > > > Regards, > > Mark Parris > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx
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| guyt1799190425
Posts:36
 | | 04/29/2008 5:16 PM |
| I've seen couple metabase corruptions after computer rename (think that was in IIS5 era). Also some issues with IUSR/IWAM accounts password sync and (not an issue as to itself) quite a lot of people being bitten by SSL certs that do not match after the rename.
Guy
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Brian Desmond Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:00 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server
IIS not supporting or handling renames is news to me...
--brian
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Kevin Brunson <kevinb@highergroundtech.com> wrote:
And while it is not as big a deal, IIS www doesn't handle name changes very well either.
-----Original Message----- From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Guy Teverovsky Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 2:06 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server
Susan,
He wants to rename the Exchange server and not the domain. The computer name rename of Exchange will definitely break things - all the user attributes will point to old name, the Exchange Org settings will contain the old name and I'm almost sure the Exchange services will not even start and no xdr-fixup will save the day (it only deals with domain/forest NCs rename and not with computer name rename).
Guy
-----Original Message----- From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 9:53 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server
You Had Me At EHLO... : Exchange and Domain Rename Operations: http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2004/08/30/222719.aspx
Technically speaking in the 2k3 era it is supported. Still gives many of us heart attacks but a SBS MVP did this on a SBS 2003 box and while Exchange survived the process, it was SharePoint that hated the trip the
most.
Kevin Brunson wrote: > You definitely want to do some research on this. But quick answer is it will screw up your world. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Mark Parris (L) > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 12:54 PM > To: ActiveDir > Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server > > > A simple question, can I rename a Windows 2003 SP1 server running Exchange 2003 SP2 server without causing Exchange any grief or masses of reconfiguration? > > I apologise if this answer is available elsewhere, but I am on my BlackBerry and unable to research this directly. > > Many thanks, > > > > > > Regards, > > Mark Parris > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx
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| lef
Posts:21
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| All the things that make Ex2k7 database portability so welcome (caveat public folders ...pesky replication hierarchy...)
Lee Flight
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008, Guy Teverovsky wrote:
> Susan, > > He wants to rename the Exchange server and not the domain. The computer > name rename of Exchange will definitely break things - all the user > attributes will point to old name, the Exchange Org settings will > contain the old name and I'm almost sure the Exchange services will not > even start and no xdr-fixup will save the day (it only deals with > domain/forest NCs rename and not with computer name rename). > > Guy > > -----Original Message----- > From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org > [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, > CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 9:53 PM > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server > > You Had Me At EHLO... : Exchange and Domain Rename Operations: > http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2004/08/30/222719.aspx > > Technically speaking in the 2k3 era it is supported. Still gives many > of us heart attacks but a SBS MVP did this on a SBS 2003 box and while > Exchange survived the process, it was SharePoint that hated the trip the > > most. > > > Kevin Brunson wrote: >> You definitely want to do some research on this. But quick answer is > it will screw up your world. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org > [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Mark Parris (L) >> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 12:54 PM >> To: ActiveDir >> Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server >> >> >> A simple question, can I rename a Windows 2003 SP1 server running > Exchange 2003 SP2 server without causing Exchange any grief or masses of > reconfiguration? >> >> I apologise if this answer is available elsewhere, but I am on my > BlackBerry and unable to research this directly. >> >> Many thanks, >> >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Mark Parris >> List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx >> List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx >> List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx >> List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx >> List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx >> List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx >> >> > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx >
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| kevinbrunson
Posts:40
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| Perhaps I didn't word that well. I didn't mean it doesn't work, just that it can cause problems. I guess it depends on how the admin handles it.
When you change the name of your IIS server, the IUSR_ServerName and IWAM_ServerName accounts do not get changed to reflect the new name. Some people are okay with that. Some people aren't. I have seen lots of people break IIS by renaming those accounts to the new name. Granted, that is not the fault of IIS, that is the fault of the admin who takes steps without understanding them. If you make that change, there are lots of places to look, for example Anonymous Access account for all sites, Application Pool identity for all application pools.
Like I said, not as big a deal as Exchange by a long shot, but I wouldn't just rush into an IIS server name change without giving some thought into what might break given the specific configuration in my scenario.
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Brian Desmond Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 4:00 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server
IIS not supporting or handling renames is news to me...
--brian On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Kevin Brunson <kevinb@highergroundtech.com<mailto:kevinb@highergroundtech.com>> wrote: And while it is not as big a deal, IIS www doesn't handle name changes very well either.
-----Original Message----- From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org<mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org<mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org>] On Behalf Of Guy Teverovsky Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 2:06 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org<mailto:ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server
Susan,
He wants to rename the Exchange server and not the domain. The computer name rename of Exchange will definitely break things - all the user attributes will point to old name, the Exchange Org settings will contain the old name and I'm almost sure the Exchange services will not even start and no xdr-fixup will save the day (it only deals with domain/forest NCs rename and not with computer name rename).
Guy
-----Original Message----- From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org<mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org<mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org>] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 9:53 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org<mailto:ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server
You Had Me At EHLO... : Exchange and Domain Rename Operations: http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2004/08/30/222719.aspx
Technically speaking in the 2k3 era it is supported. Still gives many of us heart attacks but a SBS MVP did this on a SBS 2003 box and while Exchange survived the process, it was SharePoint that hated the trip the
most.
Kevin Brunson wrote: > You definitely want to do some research on this. But quick answer is it will screw up your world. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org<mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org<mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org>] On Behalf Of Mark Parris (L) > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 12:54 PM > To: ActiveDir > Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server > > > A simple question, can I rename a Windows 2003 SP1 server running Exchange 2003 SP2 server without causing Exchange any grief or masses of reconfiguration? > > I apologise if this answer is available elsewhere, but I am on my BlackBerry and unable to research this directly. > > Many thanks, > > > > > > Regards, > > Mark Parris > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx
-- Thanks, Brian Desmond brian@briandesmond.com<mailto:brian@briandesmond.com>
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| bhopkins
Posts:7
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| Also if this is the only Exchange server in the domain, just bring up a new box with the new name, move the mailboxes, and then decommission the current server. Or tell the guy he does not have a clue as to how bad he is going to screw up the AD structure of this domain, which will probably last right into the Exchange 2007 upgrade and the migration to 2008 when you guys get ready to go there.
Thanks Bruce Hopkins Director Information Technology Chattahoochee Technical College 770-528-4574 http://www.chattcollege.com
-----Original Message----- From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Dmitri Gavrilov Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 4:30 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server
Assuming you have another mailbox server, you should move all mailboxes there, then uninstall Exchange, rename or flatten the machine, reinstall Exchange, and move mailboxes back. I suppose that's the only way that has a chance to be supported.
Dmitri
-----Original Message----- From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 1:22 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server
Ah. Renaming an Exchange server is absolutely not supported.
Regards,
Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com
-----Original Message----- From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Guy Teverovsky Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 3:06 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server
Susan,
He wants to rename the Exchange server and not the domain. The computer name rename of Exchange will definitely break things - all the user attributes will point to old name, the Exchange Org settings will contain the old name and I'm almost sure the Exchange services will not even start and no xdr-fixup will save the day (it only deals with domain/forest NCs rename and not with computer name rename).
Guy
-----Original Message----- From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 9:53 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server
You Had Me At EHLO... : Exchange and Domain Rename Operations: http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2004/08/30/222719.aspx
Technically speaking in the 2k3 era it is supported. Still gives many of us heart attacks but a SBS MVP did this on a SBS 2003 box and while Exchange survived the process, it was SharePoint that hated the trip the
most.
Kevin Brunson wrote: > You definitely want to do some research on this. But quick answer is it will screw up your world. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Mark Parris (L) > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 12:54 PM > To: ActiveDir > Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server > > > A simple question, can I rename a Windows 2003 SP1 server running Exchange 2003 SP2 server without causing Exchange any grief or masses of reconfiguration? > > I apologise if this answer is available elsewhere, but I am on my BlackBerry and unable to research this directly. > > Many thanks, > > > > > > Regards, > > Mark Parris > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx
List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx
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| CrawfordS
Posts:39
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| I've renamed IIS servers without issue before, but I have been annoyed that the IUSR_ServerName account doesn't get renamed. Not a big deal...just irks me .
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From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org on behalf of Brian Desmond Sent: Tue 4/29/2008 4:00 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server
IIS not supporting or handling renames is news to me...
--brian
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Kevin Brunson <kevinb@highergroundtech.com> wrote:
And while it is not as big a deal, IIS www doesn't handle name changes very well either.
-----Original Message----- From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Guy Teverovsky Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 2:06 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server
Susan,
He wants to rename the Exchange server and not the domain. The computer name rename of Exchange will definitely break things - all the user attributes will point to old name, the Exchange Org settings will contain the old name and I'm almost sure the Exchange services will not even start and no xdr-fixup will save the day (it only deals with domain/forest NCs rename and not with computer name rename).
Guy
-----Original Message----- From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 9:53 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server
You Had Me At EHLO... : Exchange and Domain Rename Operations: http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2004/08/30/222719.aspx
Technically speaking in the 2k3 era it is supported. Still gives many of us heart attacks but a SBS MVP did this on a SBS 2003 box and while Exchange survived the process, it was SharePoint that hated the trip the
most.
Kevin Brunson wrote: > You definitely want to do some research on this. But quick answer is it will screw up your world. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Mark Parris (L) > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 12:54 PM > To: ActiveDir > Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server > > > A simple question, can I rename a Windows 2003 SP1 server running Exchange 2003 SP2 server without causing Exchange any grief or masses of reconfiguration? > > I apologise if this answer is available elsewhere, but I am on my BlackBerry and unable to research this directly. > > Many thanks, > > > > > > Regards, > > Mark Parris > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx
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