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04/29/2008 2:45 PM  
You definitely want to do some research on this. But quick answer is it will screw up your world.

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Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 12:54 PM
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Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server


A simple question, can I rename a Windows 2003 SP1 server running Exchange 2003 SP2 server without causing Exchange any grief or masses of reconfiguration?

I apologise if this answer is available elsewhere, but I am on my BlackBerry and unable to research this directly.

Many thanks,





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04/29/2008 2:55 PM  
You Had Me At EHLO... : Exchange and Domain Rename Operations:
http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2004/08/30/222719.aspx

Technically speaking in the 2k3 era it is supported. Still gives many
of us heart attacks but a SBS MVP did this on a SBS 2003 box and while
Exchange survived the process, it was SharePoint that hated the trip the
most.


Kevin Brunson wrote:
> You definitely want to do some research on this. But quick answer is it will screw up your world.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Mark Parris (L)
> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 12:54 PM
> To: ActiveDir
> Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server
>
>
> A simple question, can I rename a Windows 2003 SP1 server running Exchange 2003 SP2 server without causing Exchange any grief or masses of reconfiguration?
>
> I apologise if this answer is available elsewhere, but I am on my BlackBerry and unable to research this directly.
>
> Many thanks,
>
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>
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>
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04/29/2008 3:10 PM  
Susan,

He wants to rename the Exchange server and not the domain. The computer
name rename of Exchange will definitely break things - all the user
attributes will point to old name, the Exchange Org settings will
contain the old name and I'm almost sure the Exchange services will not
even start and no xdr-fixup will save the day (it only deals with
domain/forest NCs rename and not with computer name rename).

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley,
CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 9:53 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server

You Had Me At EHLO... : Exchange and Domain Rename Operations:
http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2004/08/30/222719.aspx

Technically speaking in the 2k3 era it is supported. Still gives many
of us heart attacks but a SBS MVP did this on a SBS 2003 box and while
Exchange survived the process, it was SharePoint that hated the trip the

most.


Kevin Brunson wrote:
> You definitely want to do some research on this. But quick answer is
it will screw up your world.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Mark Parris (L)
> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 12:54 PM
> To: ActiveDir
> Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server
>
>
> A simple question, can I rename a Windows 2003 SP1 server running
Exchange 2003 SP2 server without causing Exchange any grief or masses of
reconfiguration?
>
> I apologise if this answer is available elsewhere, but I am on my
BlackBerry and unable to research this directly.
>
> Many thanks,
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark Parris
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04/29/2008 3:20 PM  
Ah 'cuse me .. didn't read well enough.

Yeah we tested out domain rename, not computer rename.



Guy Teverovsky wrote:
> Susan,
>
> He wants to rename the Exchange server and not the domain. The computer
> name rename of Exchange will definitely break things - all the user
> attributes will point to old name, the Exchange Org settings will
> contain the old name and I'm almost sure the Exchange services will not
> even start and no xdr-fixup will save the day (it only deals with
> domain/forest NCs rename and not with computer name rename).
>
> Guy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley,
> CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 9:53 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server
>
> You Had Me At EHLO... : Exchange and Domain Rename Operations:
> http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2004/08/30/222719.aspx
>
> Technically speaking in the 2k3 era it is supported. Still gives many
> of us heart attacks but a SBS MVP did this on a SBS 2003 box and while
> Exchange survived the process, it was SharePoint that hated the trip the
>
> most.
>
>
> Kevin Brunson wrote:
>
>> You definitely want to do some research on this. But quick answer is
>>
> it will screw up your world.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
>>
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Mark Parris (L)
>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 12:54 PM
>> To: ActiveDir
>> Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server
>>
>>
>> A simple question, can I rename a Windows 2003 SP1 server running
>>
> Exchange 2003 SP2 server without causing Exchange any grief or masses of
> reconfiguration?
>
>> I apologise if this answer is available elsewhere, but I am on my
>>
> BlackBerry and unable to research this directly.
>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Mark Parris
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04/29/2008 3:25 PM  
never is a good idea rename a Exchange server, they are a lot of permisions and configurations in A.D. associted to machine account, the bes ever is install a new Exchange server and migrate the server then remove the old

Carlos Mario Álvarez
MCPID 1227257
Medellín, Colombia

> From: deji@readymaids.com> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:03:01 -0700> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server> > It will cause you a lot of pains if you don't get off the Blackberry and do some googling.> > Sincerely,> _____> (, / | /) /) /)> /---| (/_ ______ ___// _ // _> ) / |_/(__(_) // (_(_)(/_(_(_/(__(/_> (_/ /)> (/> Microsoft MVP - Directory Services> www.akomolafe.name - we know IT> -5.75, -3.23> Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday? -anon> ________________________________________> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Mark Parris (L) [lists@baseit.co.uk]> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 10:53 AM> To: ActiveDir> Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server> > A simple question, can I rename a Windows 2003 SP1 server running Exchange 2003 SP2 server without causing Exchange any grief or masses of reconfiguration?> > I apologise if this answer is available elsewhere, but I am on my BlackBerry and unable to research this directly.> > Many thanks,> > > > > > Regards,> > Mark Parris> List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx> List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx> List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx> List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx> List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx> List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx
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04/29/2008 3:25 PM  
And while it is not as big a deal, IIS www doesn't handle name changes very well either.


-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Guy Teverovsky
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 2:06 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server

Susan,

He wants to rename the Exchange server and not the domain. The computer
name rename of Exchange will definitely break things - all the user
attributes will point to old name, the Exchange Org settings will
contain the old name and I'm almost sure the Exchange services will not
even start and no xdr-fixup will save the day (it only deals with
domain/forest NCs rename and not with computer name rename).

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley,
CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 9:53 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server

You Had Me At EHLO... : Exchange and Domain Rename Operations:
http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2004/08/30/222719.aspx

Technically speaking in the 2k3 era it is supported. Still gives many
of us heart attacks but a SBS MVP did this on a SBS 2003 box and while
Exchange survived the process, it was SharePoint that hated the trip the

most.


Kevin Brunson wrote:
> You definitely want to do some research on this. But quick answer is
it will screw up your world.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Mark Parris (L)
> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 12:54 PM
> To: ActiveDir
> Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server
>
>
> A simple question, can I rename a Windows 2003 SP1 server running
Exchange 2003 SP2 server without causing Exchange any grief or masses of
reconfiguration?
>
> I apologise if this answer is available elsewhere, but I am on my
BlackBerry and unable to research this directly.
>
> Many thanks,
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark Parris
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04/29/2008 3:30 PM  
If you rename, preserve the computer account/SID, this is not an issue.

I can think of a way of renaming Exchange server and getting away, but it will probably require some code/script to scan the AD for references of the old name and replace with the new one. Not the kind of surgery you want to perform in production, even after thoroughly testing in lab.



Guy



From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Mario ?lvarez
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 10:18 PM
To: activedir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server



never is a good idea rename a Exchange server, they are a lot of permisions and configurations in A.D. associted to machine account, the bes ever is install a new Exchange server and migrate the server then remove the old




Carlos Mario Álvarez

MCPID 1227257

Medellín, Colombia



________________________________

> From: deji@readymaids.com
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:03:01 -0700
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server
>
> It will cause you a lot of pains if you don't get off the Blackberry and do some googling.
>
> Sincerely,
> _____
> (, / | /) /) /)
> /---| (/_ ______ ___// _ // _
> ) / |_/(__(_) // (_(_)(/_(_(_/(__(/_
> (_/ /)
> (/
> Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
> www.akomolafe.name - we know IT
> -5.75, -3.23
> Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday? -anon
> ________________________________________
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Mark Parris (L) [lists@baseit.co.uk]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 10:53 AM
> To: ActiveDir
> Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server
>
> A simple question, can I rename a Windows 2003 SP1 server running Exchange 2003 SP2 server without causing Exchange any grief or masses of reconfiguration?
>
> I apologise if this answer is available elsewhere, but I am on my BlackBerry and unable to research this directly.
>
> Many thanks,
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark Parris
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04/29/2008 3:50 PM  
That's is no totally true, and the config in AD is pointing to name no SID, so change name lost a lot of configs.
Carlos Mario Álvarez
MCPID 1227257
Medellín, Colombia


Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 ServerDate: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:30:16 +0300From: guyt@smartx.co.ilTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org






If you rename, preserve the computer account/SID, this is not an issue.
I can think of a way of renaming Exchange server and getting away, but it will probably require some code/script to scan the AD for references of the old name and replace with the new one. Not the kind of surgery you want to perform in production, even after thoroughly testing in lab.

Guy



From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Mario ?lvarezSent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 10:18 PMTo: activedir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server

never is a good idea rename a Exchange server, they are a lot of permisions and configurations in A.D. associted to machine account, the bes ever is install a new Exchange server and migrate the server then remove the old

Carlos Mario Álvarez

MCPID 1227257

Medellín, Colombia




> From: deji@readymaids.com> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:03:01 -0700> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server> > It will cause you a lot of pains if you don't get off the Blackberry and do some googling.> > Sincerely,> _____> (, / | /) /) /)> /---| (/_ ______ ___// _ // _> ) / |_/(__(_) // (_(_)(/_(_(_/(__(/_> (_/ /)> (/> Microsoft MVP - Directory Services> www.akomolafe.name - we know IT> -5.75, -3.23> Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday? -anon> ________________________________________> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Mark Parris (L) [lists@baseit.co.uk]> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 10:53 AM> To: ActiveDir> Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server> > A simple question, can I rename a Windows 2003 SP1 server running Exchange 2003 SP2 server without causing Exchange any grief or masses of reconfiguration?> > I apologise if this answer is available elsewhere, but I am on my BlackBerry and unable to research this directly.> > Many thanks,> > > > > > Regards,> > Mark Parris> List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx> List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx> List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx> List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx> List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx> List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx



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04/29/2008 4:26 PM  
Ah. Renaming an Exchange server is absolutely not supported.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Guy Teverovsky
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 3:06 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server

Susan,

He wants to rename the Exchange server and not the domain. The computer
name rename of Exchange will definitely break things - all the user
attributes will point to old name, the Exchange Org settings will
contain the old name and I'm almost sure the Exchange services will not
even start and no xdr-fixup will save the day (it only deals with
domain/forest NCs rename and not with computer name rename).

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley,
CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 9:53 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server

You Had Me At EHLO... : Exchange and Domain Rename Operations:
http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2004/08/30/222719.aspx

Technically speaking in the 2k3 era it is supported. Still gives many
of us heart attacks but a SBS MVP did this on a SBS 2003 box and while
Exchange survived the process, it was SharePoint that hated the trip the

most.


Kevin Brunson wrote:
> You definitely want to do some research on this. But quick answer is
it will screw up your world.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Mark Parris (L)
> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 12:54 PM
> To: ActiveDir
> Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server
>
>
> A simple question, can I rename a Windows 2003 SP1 server running
Exchange 2003 SP2 server without causing Exchange any grief or masses of
reconfiguration?
>
> I apologise if this answer is available elsewhere, but I am on my
BlackBerry and unable to research this directly.
>
> Many thanks,
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark Parris
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04/29/2008 4:31 PM  
Assuming you have another mailbox server, you should move all mailboxes there, then uninstall Exchange, rename or flatten the machine, reinstall Exchange, and move mailboxes back. I suppose that's the only way that has a chance to be supported.

Dmitri

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Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 1:22 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server

Ah. Renaming an Exchange server is absolutely not supported.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Guy Teverovsky
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 3:06 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server

Susan,

He wants to rename the Exchange server and not the domain. The computer
name rename of Exchange will definitely break things - all the user
attributes will point to old name, the Exchange Org settings will
contain the old name and I'm almost sure the Exchange services will not
even start and no xdr-fixup will save the day (it only deals with
domain/forest NCs rename and not with computer name rename).

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley,
CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 9:53 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server

You Had Me At EHLO... : Exchange and Domain Rename Operations:
http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2004/08/30/222719.aspx

Technically speaking in the 2k3 era it is supported. Still gives many
of us heart attacks but a SBS MVP did this on a SBS 2003 box and while
Exchange survived the process, it was SharePoint that hated the trip the

most.


Kevin Brunson wrote:
> You definitely want to do some research on this. But quick answer is
it will screw up your world.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 12:54 PM
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> Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server
>
>
> A simple question, can I rename a Windows 2003 SP1 server running
Exchange 2003 SP2 server without causing Exchange any grief or masses of
reconfiguration?
>
> I apologise if this answer is available elsewhere, but I am on my
BlackBerry and unable to research this directly.
>
> Many thanks,
>
>
>
>
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04/29/2008 5:16 PM  
I've seen couple metabase corruptions after computer rename (think that
was in IIS5 era). Also some issues with IUSR/IWAM accounts password sync
and (not an issue as to itself) quite a lot of people being bitten by
SSL certs that do not match after the rename.



Guy



From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Brian Desmond
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:00 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server



IIS not supporting or handling renames is news to me...



--brian

On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Kevin Brunson
<kevinb@highergroundtech.com> wrote:

And while it is not as big a deal, IIS www doesn't handle name changes
very well either.



-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Guy Teverovsky
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 2:06 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org

Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server

Susan,

He wants to rename the Exchange server and not the domain. The computer
name rename of Exchange will definitely break things - all the user
attributes will point to old name, the Exchange Org settings will
contain the old name and I'm almost sure the Exchange services will not
even start and no xdr-fixup will save the day (it only deals with
domain/forest NCs rename and not with computer name rename).

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley,
CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 9:53 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server

You Had Me At EHLO... : Exchange and Domain Rename Operations:
http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2004/08/30/222719.aspx

Technically speaking in the 2k3 era it is supported. Still gives many
of us heart attacks but a SBS MVP did this on a SBS 2003 box and while
Exchange survived the process, it was SharePoint that hated the trip the

most.


Kevin Brunson wrote:
> You definitely want to do some research on this. But quick answer is
it will screw up your world.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Mark Parris (L)
> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 12:54 PM
> To: ActiveDir
> Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server
>
>
> A simple question, can I rename a Windows 2003 SP1 server running
Exchange 2003 SP2 server without causing Exchange any grief or masses of
reconfiguration?
>
> I apologise if this answer is available elsewhere, but I am on my
BlackBerry and unable to research this directly.
>
> Many thanks,
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
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04/29/2008 5:21 PM  
All the things that make Ex2k7 database portability so welcome (caveat
public folders ...pesky replication hierarchy...)

Lee Flight


On Tue, 29 Apr 2008, Guy Teverovsky wrote:

> Susan,
>
> He wants to rename the Exchange server and not the domain. The computer
> name rename of Exchange will definitely break things - all the user
> attributes will point to old name, the Exchange Org settings will
> contain the old name and I'm almost sure the Exchange services will not
> even start and no xdr-fixup will save the day (it only deals with
> domain/forest NCs rename and not with computer name rename).
>
> Guy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley,
> CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 9:53 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server
>
> You Had Me At EHLO... : Exchange and Domain Rename Operations:
> http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2004/08/30/222719.aspx
>
> Technically speaking in the 2k3 era it is supported. Still gives many
> of us heart attacks but a SBS MVP did this on a SBS 2003 box and while
> Exchange survived the process, it was SharePoint that hated the trip the
>
> most.
>
>
> Kevin Brunson wrote:
>> You definitely want to do some research on this. But quick answer is
> it will screw up your world.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Mark Parris (L)
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 12:54 PM
>> To: ActiveDir
>> Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server
>>
>>
>> A simple question, can I rename a Windows 2003 SP1 server running
> Exchange 2003 SP2 server without causing Exchange any grief or masses of
> reconfiguration?
>>
>> I apologise if this answer is available elsewhere, but I am on my
> BlackBerry and unable to research this directly.
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Mark Parris
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04/29/2008 5:51 PM  
Perhaps I didn't word that well. I didn't mean it doesn't work, just that it can cause problems. I guess it depends on how the admin handles it.

When you change the name of your IIS server, the IUSR_ServerName and IWAM_ServerName accounts do not get changed to reflect the new name. Some people are okay with that. Some people aren't. I have seen lots of people break IIS by renaming those accounts to the new name. Granted, that is not the fault of IIS, that is the fault of the admin who takes steps without understanding them. If you make that change, there are lots of places to look, for example Anonymous Access account for all sites, Application Pool identity for all application pools.

Like I said, not as big a deal as Exchange by a long shot, but I wouldn't just rush into an IIS server name change without giving some thought into what might break given the specific configuration in my scenario.


From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Brian Desmond
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 4:00 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server

IIS not supporting or handling renames is news to me...

--brian
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Kevin Brunson <kevinb@highergroundtech.com<mailto:kevinb@highergroundtech.com>> wrote:
And while it is not as big a deal, IIS www doesn't handle name changes very well either.


-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org<mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org<mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org>] On Behalf Of Guy Teverovsky
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 2:06 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org<mailto:ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org>
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server

Susan,

He wants to rename the Exchange server and not the domain. The computer
name rename of Exchange will definitely break things - all the user
attributes will point to old name, the Exchange Org settings will
contain the old name and I'm almost sure the Exchange services will not
even start and no xdr-fixup will save the day (it only deals with
domain/forest NCs rename and not with computer name rename).

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org<mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org>
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org<mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org>] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley,
CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 9:53 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org<mailto:ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org>
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server

You Had Me At EHLO... : Exchange and Domain Rename Operations:
http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2004/08/30/222719.aspx

Technically speaking in the 2k3 era it is supported. Still gives many
of us heart attacks but a SBS MVP did this on a SBS 2003 box and while
Exchange survived the process, it was SharePoint that hated the trip the

most.


Kevin Brunson wrote:
> You definitely want to do some research on this. But quick answer is
it will screw up your world.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org<mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org>
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org<mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org>] On Behalf Of Mark Parris (L)
> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 12:54 PM
> To: ActiveDir
> Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server
>
>
> A simple question, can I rename a Windows 2003 SP1 server running
Exchange 2003 SP2 server without causing Exchange any grief or masses of
reconfiguration?
>
> I apologise if this answer is available elsewhere, but I am on my
BlackBerry and unable to research this directly.
>
> Many thanks,
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark Parris
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04/29/2008 6:57 PM  
Also if this is the only Exchange server in the domain, just bring up a new box with the new name, move the mailboxes, and then decommission the current server. Or tell the guy he does not have a clue as to how bad he is going to screw up the AD structure of this domain, which will probably last right into the Exchange 2007 upgrade and the migration to 2008 when you guys get ready to go there.

Thanks
Bruce Hopkins
Director Information Technology
Chattahoochee Technical College
770-528-4574
http://www.chattcollege.com

-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Dmitri Gavrilov
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 4:30 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server

Assuming you have another mailbox server, you should move all mailboxes there, then uninstall Exchange, rename or flatten the machine, reinstall Exchange, and move mailboxes back. I suppose that's the only way that has a chance to be supported.

Dmitri

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 1:22 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server

Ah. Renaming an Exchange server is absolutely not supported.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Guy Teverovsky
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 3:06 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server

Susan,

He wants to rename the Exchange server and not the domain. The computer
name rename of Exchange will definitely break things - all the user
attributes will point to old name, the Exchange Org settings will
contain the old name and I'm almost sure the Exchange services will not
even start and no xdr-fixup will save the day (it only deals with
domain/forest NCs rename and not with computer name rename).

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley,
CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 9:53 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server

You Had Me At EHLO... : Exchange and Domain Rename Operations:
http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2004/08/30/222719.aspx

Technically speaking in the 2k3 era it is supported. Still gives many
of us heart attacks but a SBS MVP did this on a SBS 2003 box and while
Exchange survived the process, it was SharePoint that hated the trip the

most.


Kevin Brunson wrote:
> You definitely want to do some research on this. But quick answer is
it will screw up your world.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Mark Parris (L)
> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 12:54 PM
> To: ActiveDir
> Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server
>
>
> A simple question, can I rename a Windows 2003 SP1 server running
Exchange 2003 SP2 server without causing Exchange any grief or masses of
reconfiguration?
>
> I apologise if this answer is available elsewhere, but I am on my
BlackBerry and unable to research this directly.
>
> Many thanks,
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark Parris
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04/29/2008 10:54 PM  
I've renamed IIS servers without issue before, but I have been annoyed that the IUSR_ServerName account doesn't get renamed. Not a big deal...just irks me :).

________________________________

From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org on behalf of Brian Desmond
Sent: Tue 4/29/2008 4:00 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server


IIS not supporting or handling renames is news to me...

--brian


On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Kevin Brunson <kevinb@highergroundtech.com> wrote:


And while it is not as big a deal, IIS www doesn't handle name changes very well either.



-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Guy Teverovsky
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 2:06 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org

Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server

Susan,

He wants to rename the Exchange server and not the domain. The computer
name rename of Exchange will definitely break things - all the user
attributes will point to old name, the Exchange Org settings will
contain the old name and I'm almost sure the Exchange services will not
even start and no xdr-fixup will save the day (it only deals with
domain/forest NCs rename and not with computer name rename).

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley,
CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 9:53 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server

You Had Me At EHLO... : Exchange and Domain Rename Operations:
http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2004/08/30/222719.aspx

Technically speaking in the 2k3 era it is supported. Still gives many
of us heart attacks but a SBS MVP did this on a SBS 2003 box and while
Exchange survived the process, it was SharePoint that hated the trip the

most.


Kevin Brunson wrote:
> You definitely want to do some research on this. But quick answer is
it will screw up your world.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Mark Parris (L)
> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 12:54 PM
> To: ActiveDir
> Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Rename an Exchange 2003 Server
>
>
> A simple question, can I rename a Windows 2003 SP1 server running
Exchange 2003 SP2 server without causing Exchange any grief or masses of
reconfiguration?
>
> I apologise if this answer is available elsewhere, but I am on my
BlackBerry and unable to research this directly.
>
> Many thanks,
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark Parris
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