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robertsingers
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| You're missing the point slightly. There is an optimum temperature for
brewing coffee, and then there is a safe temperature for storing and
consuming coffee. They're not the same. A good consultant should be
able to tell you that and devise a business process that takes both into
account.
I'm not taking issue with the overly litigious American culture. Just
pointing out that example was a poor one, and more an urban myth. I
think if you want an example of where common sense has deserted people
then this is it http://www.bybeeweb.com/photos/grandcanyon/0787.jpg
(Grand Canyon warning sign).
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Um, 180-190F is where coffee and tea are best brewed! You don't want the
water boiling as you get too many tanins, but you get most of the
essential oils out around those temperatures (the lower side for tea and
the high side for coffee). I would say it's a case of all of us getting
a worse product because some people are unable to function without
harming themselves. Whether an overly paternalistic society is a good
thing is an exercise for the reader =)
Andrew
"Robert Singers" <robert.singers@dbh.govt.nz>
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It's an urban legend that the McDonald's Coffee case was a frivolous
case. The coffee in question was between 180 and 190 degs F. Liebecks
original claim was for $20,000 to pay for the eight days hospitalisation
she needed to treat the third degree burns to 6% of her body (including
genitals).
McDonalds refused the claim causing it to go to court. McDonalds own
internal guidelines also said that anything over 140 deg F constituted a
burn hazard.
If you read some of the unsensationalised reports of the case it's a
fairly good warning about using consultants to create business processes
without proper oversight.
Now I can tell you that if I had a liquid of that temperature applied to
my genitals I'd be fairly damn testy.
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[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of joe
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Ah, another reason to love the United States.... This goes right up
there with the people who sue McDonald's because they got burned by the
coffee.
Well being in the country I guess my next option is to put that fence up
and just let the grass grow really tall along the property line as the
people around here seem to be deathly afraid of fleas and ticks getting
on themΏ] and for the Quads, well a bunch of well placed rocks and logs
could make things not quite as enjoyable.  I wouldn't have a problem
with it but they seem to have no concept of the "tread lightly" idea and
just assume that since the property is there and they can see it, they
have all the right in the world to do whatever they want on it.
joe
p.s. s/mote/moat/g;
Ώ] This is a true story, I have 12 acres and about 4-5 acres of it is
"manicured". I took the very front 100 feet of the about 300 feet of
front yard and let the grass grow and wildflowers grow. My next door
neighbor was complaining that it would cause her kids and cats (all 11
of them!!!) to get fleas and ticks, I told her it wouldn't if she kept
them on her own property. Then I said even if I did mow that acre or so
of property, I had another 8 acres out back that was even more wild, was
that a problem too? Just looking forward to the time I have 100 acres
and living in the middle of it and there is a gate only letting those
folks I invite in. 
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[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Crawford, Scott
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This might end up biting you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attractive_nuisance
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attractive_nuisance>
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[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of joe
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Hey that happened to mom too but she was stealing apples. I think my
granddad actually spanked her after that too... Now a days someone
would be trying to sue someone else.
I have been thinking about building a mote, that could be fun for all
sorts of reasons. Darn thing would have to be a third of a mile to go
down one property line though. Though if I built one that long that was
6 feet deep and 10 feet wide I would have about 100k cubic feet of dirt
to make a sledding hill for the winter or as a base to build a nice
tower like Merlin had. Then I get to do the other side of the
property and build another hill. Of course it took me a couple of days
just to dig my sump drain line trench and that was only 300 feet x 6
inches wide by 18 inches deep.
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[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Gil Kirkpatrick
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When I was a kid, I once got an ass-load of salt from a shotgun from a
crotchety old dinosaur farmer. Something about his pumpkins and the
M-80s I was sticking in them....
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[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Brandon Shell
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In the south we say something like
"Hey you kids.... Get those Quads off my land! Don't make me put out my
AK47, oh wait, those are baned, I mean my .30-06!"
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 10:25 AM, joe <listmail@joeware.net
<mailto:listmail@joeware.net> > wrote:
ErrI HAVE been saying that lately as well.... Hrmph.
Well sort of...
People in the city have "lawns", us folks in the country have "land"....
Sort of... "Hey you kids.... Get those Quads off my land! Don't make me
put up a barbed wire fence."
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<mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org> ] On Behalf Of Gil
Kirkpatrick
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You realize of course this makes us crotchety, whiny old dinosaurs.
"Hey you kids! Get off of my lawn!"
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<mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org> ] On Behalf Of joe
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What sucks is that lack of writing skill is quickly rolling over into
every day writing such as blogs (which, IMO, should be a step above an
email in quality), online news articles, and printed writing now.
I get dinged at work fairly regularly because I am willing to write up a
long descriptive email of a solution to a problem but won't write up a
"knowledge base" article for it in Word. It isn't because I don't want
to, actually I wouldn't mind if that was my entire job, it is because
when I write something up that I consider formal (such as a Word
document) or long lived versus an email, I will strive to at least
understand why Word is underlining things and make sure that case,
tense, voice, party, flow, etc etc ad nauseum are correct. I hate
reading something that was written for a formal or semi-formal forum and
the writing is poor and I hate to have people look at me the way they do
when they encounter that quality of writing. You just look like an
uneducated bumpkin.That means anything I write in Word for the KB system
(or anything else really) will likely take 10-20 times longer than an
informal email where I just tossed stuff out there.
joe
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<mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org> ] On Behalf Of Gil
Kirkpatrick
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Email grammar (and spelling) is so generally poor these days, one just
becomes immune to it. U no what I meen?
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<mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org> ] On Behalf Of Tony Murray
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I'm just pleased Laura didn't single me out for humiliation for the
grammatical howler I made in my earlier post. She must be getting soft.
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Oww! Laura, do you need some help getting that knife out of your back?
:-)
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<mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org> ] On Behalf Of joe
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I also would not deign to belong to any organization that would have
Laura as a member.
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<mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org> ] On Behalf Of Laura E.
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I would not deign to belong to any organization that would have me as a
member. :-)
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 8:10 PM, Gil Kirkpatrick <gilk@netpro.com
<mailto:gilk@netpro.com> > wrote:
But I know one of the guys in the band!
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<mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org> ] On Behalf Of Tony Murray
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I'm sorry. If you're name's not on the list you're not getting in.
This is a select establishment.
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<mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org> ] On Behalf Of Gil
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Please put me back on this list.
-gil
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<mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org> ] On Behalf Of Tony Murray
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Removed.
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<mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org> ] On Behalf Of Brown, Ken
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Please remove me from this list
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