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 | | 09/08/2008 3:50 PM |
| Dean is, of course, referring to his own peacock plummage....
And yes I was trying to be funny. I wanted to see if Dean would respond to my note as if Darren sent it. Unfortunately Dean's mom was reading all of the message to him this time and not just the middle parts... ;o)
>From the sounds of the error Dean and Darren (hmm D&D) are describing, sounds like some API call is being dynamically called out to and it is failing.... From Dean it sounds like it is failing a whole lot over and over again in fact.
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From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Dean Wells Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 3:19 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Security Filtering Computer Based Policies
Oh dear à @ joe = <smack>
Steve joe was trying to be funny
clearly, hes not!
For me though, the 2K8 binary fails regardless of beautiful plumage J
-- Dean Wells * Email: limeypride@gmail.com
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Steve Linehan Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 2:55 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Security Filtering Computer Based Policies
Sorry should have stated it more clearly. It will work on Vista but at the moment we do not ship the binary on Vista. I had forgotten about that piece. The pluming is there for it to work.
Thanks,
-Steve
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From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of joe Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 1:38 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Security Filtering Computer Based Policies
'klist' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.
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From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Dean Wells Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 2:32 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Security Filtering Computer Based Policies
Post back the resulting error text.
-- Dean Wells * Email: limeypride@gmail.com
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 2:18 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Security Filtering Computer Based Policies
Hmm. I had already tried that without the colon and it still fails. Could this be a problem of running in a TS session?
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Steve Linehan Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:04 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Security Filtering Computer Based Policies
Yes forgot to remove the :
C:\Windows\System32>klist -li 0x3e7 purge
Current LogonId is 0:0x92b72
Targetted LogonId is 0:0x3e7
Deleting all tickets:
Ticket(s) purged!
Thanks,
-Steve
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From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Dean Wells Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:36 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Security Filtering Computer Based Policies
Remove the colon following -li
-- Dean Wells * Email: limeypride@gmail.com
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 1:17 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Security Filtering Computer Based Policies
And actually, I just tried this on 2008 and when I entered the command below, I got the usage back:
Usage: Klist.exe [-lh <LogonId.HighPart>] [-li <LogonId.LowPart>] tickets | tgt
| purge
Something missing from that Steve?
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Steve Linehan Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 9:42 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Security Filtering Computer Based Policies
For Windows Server 2008 we added a feature to help customers with this issue. We added a switch to klist that would allow you to flush the systems TGT, Klist li:0x3e7 purge (0x3e7 is always the system process).
Thanks,
-Steve
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From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of joe Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:17 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Security Filtering Computer Based Policies
Yes Mr. Wells, that is why I was clarifying the question. 
LOL I said Mr. Wells... HAHAHA
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From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Dean Wells Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:57 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Security Filtering Computer Based Policies
Computers logon in a similar manner to users. As a result, they suffer from some of the same long-standing Windows limitations that being, group membership modifications require that the access-token be refreshed; in user terms thats a logoff/logon in computer terms, thats a reboot
or sufficient patience for the kerb. ticket to fall outside of its renewability window and silently refresh in the background.
-- Dean Wells * Email: limeypride@gmail.com
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of joe Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:50 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Security Filtering Computer Based Policies
So are you saying that after you reboot the machines after the group mods have replicated it isn't handling the group filtering right away?
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From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of WATSON, BEN Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:45 AM To: undisclosed-recipients: Subject: [ActiveDir] Security Filtering Computer Based Policies
As part of a rollout for a specific policy we are applying to the company, we are pushing a policy that will be effected by security filtering at the outset. It works, and I can test it and when I check the GPResults I definitely see that the policy was denied by security.
To perform the security filtering, I created a security group, added the computer accounts that I do NOT want to be affected by the policy, and then denied that security group the ability to apply the group policy. As I stated before, it works
but slowly.
I was wondering if anyone else could explain why after making a change to the membership of the security group, it seems to take some time for the change to take effect as far as the security filtering is concerned. I know its not a replication issue (if that even matters) as I push out the changes to the other DCs, yet it still takes awhile for the change in the security group to effect the security filtering applied against the GPO.
Any thoughts?
Thanks,
~Ben
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