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09/08/2008 3:50 PM  
Dean is, of course, referring to his own peacock plummage....

And yes I was trying to be funny. I wanted to see if Dean would respond to
my note as if Darren sent it. Unfortunately Dean's mom was reading all of
the message to him this time and not just the middle parts... ;o)

>From the sounds of the error Dean and Darren (hmm D&D) are describing,
sounds like some API call is being dynamically called out to and it is
failing.... From Dean it sounds like it is failing a whole lot over and over
again in fact.


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[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Dean Wells
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 3:19 PM
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Oh dear à @ joe = <smack>



Steve – joe was trying to be funny … clearly, he’s not!



For me though, the 2K8 binary fails regardless of beautiful plumage J

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From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Steve Linehan
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 2:55 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Security Filtering Computer Based Policies



Sorry should have stated it more clearly. It will work on Vista but at the
moment we do not ship the binary on Vista. I had forgotten about that
piece. The pluming is there for it to work.



Thanks,



-Steve



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[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of joe
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 1:38 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Security Filtering Computer Based Policies



'klist' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.





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[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Dean Wells
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 2:32 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Security Filtering Computer Based Policies

Post back the resulting error text.



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From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 2:18 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Security Filtering Computer Based Policies



Hmm. I had already tried that without the colon and it still fails. Could
this be a problem of running in a TS session?



From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Steve Linehan
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:04 AM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Security Filtering Computer Based Policies



Yes forgot to remove the :



C:\Windows\System32>klist -li 0x3e7 purge



Current LogonId is 0:0x92b72

Targetted LogonId is 0:0x3e7

Deleting all tickets:

Ticket(s) purged!



Thanks,



-Steve



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From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Dean Wells
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:36 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Security Filtering Computer Based Policies



Remove the colon following -li

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From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 1:17 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Security Filtering Computer Based Policies



And actually, I just tried this on 2008 and when I entered the command
below, I got the usage back:



Usage: Klist.exe [-lh <LogonId.HighPart>] [-li <LogonId.LowPart>] tickets |
tgt

| purge



Something missing from that Steve?



From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Steve Linehan
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 9:42 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Security Filtering Computer Based Policies



For Windows Server 2008 we added a feature to help customers with this
issue. We added a switch to klist that would allow you to flush the systems
TGT, Klist –li:0x3e7 purge (0x3e7 is always the system process).



Thanks,



-Steve



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From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of joe
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:17 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Security Filtering Computer Based Policies



Yes Mr. Wells, that is why I was clarifying the question. :)





LOL I said Mr. Wells... HAHAHA





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From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Dean Wells
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:57 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Security Filtering Computer Based Policies

Computers logon in a similar manner to users. As a result, they suffer from
some of the same long-standing Windows limitations – that being, group
membership modifications require that the access-token be refreshed; in
user terms – that’s a logoff/logon – in computer terms, that’s a reboot … or
sufficient patience for the kerb. ticket to fall outside of its renewability
window and silently refresh in the background.

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* Email: limeypride@gmail.com



From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of joe
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:50 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Security Filtering Computer Based Policies



So are you saying that after you reboot the machines after the group mods
have replicated it isn't handling the group filtering right away?





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From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of WATSON, BEN
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:45 AM
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Subject: [ActiveDir] Security Filtering Computer Based Policies

As part of a rollout for a specific policy we are applying to the company,
we are pushing a policy that will be effected by security filtering at the
outset. It works, and I can test it and when I check the GPResults I
definitely see that the policy was denied by security.



To perform the security filtering, I created a security group, added the
computer accounts that I do NOT want to be affected by the policy, and then
denied that security group the ability to apply the group policy. As I
stated before, it works… but slowly.



I was wondering if anyone else could explain why after making a change to
the membership of the security group, it seems to take “some time” for the
change to take effect as far as the security filtering is concerned. I know
it’s not a replication issue (if that even matters) as I push out the
changes to the other DCs, yet it still takes awhile for the change in the
security group to effect the security filtering applied against the GPO.



Any thoughts?



Thanks,

~Ben



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