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Gil
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| March 2009 in Vegas, September 2009 in Berlin. See http://www.tec2009.com for info.
-gil
-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Roelf Zomerman
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 10:22 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: AD: RE: [ActiveDir] McMaster's:AD
So when's the next one.. and where..
-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Laura E. Hunter
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 2:00 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: AD: RE: [ActiveDir] McMaster's:AD
No, we will never "let it go", for you have taught us that if we whine
enough, we get Vegas back. You, sir, are an enabler. ;-) <---
(Kindly note winkie.)
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 9:51 PM, Gil Kirkpatrick <gilk@netpro.com> wrote:
> Yes I know that, hence the smiley. You restrained yourself admirably J <-
> Note smiley. It indicates humorous intent.
>
>
>
> DS PG representation was down a bit, overall PG representation was up, and
> overall MSFT participation was substantially up. It probably had more to do
> with where the products were in their respective release cycles more than
> anything else.
>
>
>
> -g
>
>
>
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of joe
> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:26 AM
>
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: AD: RE: [ActiveDir] McMaster's:AD
>
>
>
> I wasn't whining, in fact, I went out of my way not to whine...
> "without dissing Chicago in Winter/Spring, the major one being that Vegas is
> just a puddle jump from Redmond"
>
>
>
> I don't think you can argue that the DS PG representation wasn't as
> extensive for Chicago as it was at Red Rock. It was still better than any
> other conference as stated by the PG Managers themselves, but it was down.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition -
> http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Gil Kirkpatrick
> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 6:11 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: AD: RE: [ActiveDir] McMaster's:AD
>
> Always with the whining about Chicago.... Jeez, would you people let it go
> already? J
>
>
>
> -g
>
>
>
>
>
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of joe
> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 12:54 AM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: AD: RE: [ActiveDir] McMaster's:AD
>
>
>
> Correction #1
>
>
>
> That should be "last year in Chicago was a little light"
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition -
> http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of joe
> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 10:45 AM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: AD: RE: [ActiveDir] McMaster's:AD
>
> I have to agree with Gil.
>
>
>
> Paying for DEC (still trying to choke down the TEC name - its sort of like
> trying to rename ADAM to me...) is paying for the forum in which a bunch of
> techno folks get together and talk and where the AD Consumers get to talk to
> the people they read about or otherwise know about in the field. The product
> team is one group of techo folks who choose to come to DEC and the presence
> they commit is astounding, last year in Vegas was a little light but the
> year before at Red Rock we had fantastic turnout from the DS Team. That made
> sense from a variety of standpoints, without dissing Chicago in
> Winter/Spring, the major one being that Vegas is just a puddle jump from
> Redmond.
>
>
>
> I know it is a fact that DEC provides great value for the PG to be there
> having talked to several of the PG folks specifically about it and seeing
> the take aways that come from DEC. The feedback they get there is very
> relevant to them and something they really focus on. They aren't taking all
> the notes for their own health. They understand that there are a lot of
> heavy duty AD Talent and consumers there and it is worth their time to
> attend and get and better yet, understand from the consumers viewpoint, what
> the feedback is.
>
>
>
> There has always been a strong tie between the DS MVPs, DS PG, and
> the participants at DEC. I've said it more than once, that the between
> session and after hours in the bar banter with everyone is the best part of
> the whole thing. You will find the MSFT PG folks knee deep in that and for
> the most part loving it. I don't know of any other conference that I have
> personally attended over the last 10 years that touches it. I would actually
> relish the idea of Motel 6 with beer and pizza. No formal sessions, just
> people getting together and talking about what is going on. I understand the
> formal sessions are a chance to give people more focus on what to discuss
> though as well as to possibly introduce folks to things that they may not
> have otherwise been aware of. I absolutely love DEC and talking to all of
> the people, I just don't like having to get up in front of audiences and
> speak there, it isn't me, that is a Dean thing to be in the spot light.
> I much rather just sit in the bar and talk to folks or mingle in the between
> sessions and hang out in the birds of a feather sessions in more intimate
> conversation settings.
>
>
>
> I saw a post the other day that said the formal speaking sessions are now
> posted and went out and looked and saw we have Brett Shirley and Dmitri
> Gavrilov speaking which blew me away. Those should be some extremely
> interesting sessions though they won't be for the faint of heart; especially
> Brett's sessions. Most people can spell ESE but can't pronounce it nor have
> any real understanding of what is going on in it and honestly, because
> things have been done so well they for the most part don't even need to know
> what is going on with it.... it isn't like SQL Server where you have to go
> in and muck with it all the time. It just works. 
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition -
> http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Gil Kirkpatrick
> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 7:23 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: AD: RE: [ActiveDir] McMaster's:AD
>
> Not really... it depends on the thrust of the conference. WindowsConnections
> doesn't usually have much in the way of program management presence, for
> example. TEC/DEC/whatever J has a strong program management presence because
> we view the MSFT program management teams as one of our core constituents,
> and we organize the conference so it provides value to the product teams as
> well as to the attendees.
>
>
>
> In the case of TEC, the $$ just lets us have the event in nicer places with
> better food and facilities. My original idea for DEC was a Motel 6 and beer
> and pizza. J
>
>
>
> -gil
>
>
>
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Mark Parris (L)
> Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 2:50 AM
> To: ActiveDir
> Subject: Re: AD: RE: [ActiveDir] McMaster's:AD
>
>
>
> Is that not always a by-product of a $$££ event?
>
> TechED to a certain extent but "DEC/TEC Whatever" it is very much the case.
>
> I am not saying it is a bad thing, it's just the way it happens.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark Parris
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: "joe" <listmail@joeware.net>
> Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:18:01 -0400
> To: <ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org>
> Subject: RE: AD: RE: [ActiveDir] McMaster's:AD
>
> I can see the advertising now... Pay X dollars now and you too can have
> product team interaction...
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition -
> http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Brandon Shell
> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 12:07 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: Re: AD: RE: [ActiveDir] McMaster's:AD
>
> I personally would favor the idea of always keeping it in Redmond. That
> could help keep the quality of material and attendees at a high level. One
> would also expect, at that level, some form of product group relation so the
> PM contacts would be a great selling point.
>
> On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Chris Ransom <chrisran@microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> There will be more locations next year, but nothing official yet. Coming to
> Redmond also means you get to see the main campus, and potentially Program
> Managers...
>
>
>
> Chris Ransom
>
> Senior Premier Field Engineer - Active Directory
>
> South Central District - San Antonio
>
> US Central Premier Field Engineering
>
> Email: chrisran@microsoft.com
>
> Cell: 210.482.0157
>
> Fax: 425.708.5237
>
> Blog: http://mschrisran.spaces.live.com
>
>
>
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Steven Griffiths
> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 10:38 AM
> To: activedir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: AD: RE: [ActiveDir] McMaster's:AD
>
>
>
> Chris,
>
> Is it planned that there will be some UK-based trainig for this program at
> some point in the future?
>
> Steve G
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: chrisran@microsoft.com
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> CC: Walter.Boyd@microsoft.com
> Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 08:10:12 -0700
> Subject: RE: AD: RE: [ActiveDir] McMaster's:AD
>
> Registration site is open, and the November Rotation is half off...
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/master/register/default.mspx
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Chris Ransom
>
> Senior Premier Field Engineer - Active Directory
>
> South Central District - San Antonio
>
> US Central Premier Field Engineering
>
> Email: chrisran@microsoft.com
>
> Cell: 210.482.0157
>
> Fax: 425.708.5237
>
> Blog: http://mschrisran.spaces.live.com
>
>
>
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Mark Parris (L)
> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 8:35 AM
> To: ActiveDir
> Cc: Walter Boyd
> Subject: Re: AD: RE: [ActiveDir] McMaster's:AD
>
>
>
> Chris,
>
> Many thanks and please keep any relevant content coming.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark Parris
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Chris Ransom <chrisran@microsoft.com>
> Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 05:42:02 -0700
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org<ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org>
> CC: Walter Boyd<Walter.Boyd@microsoft.com>
> Subject: RE: AD: RE: [ActiveDir] McMaster's:AD
>
> I'll throw a couple samples out of level 300 content in a module, there will
> be more produced after the July rotation, and for sure before the November
> Public class.
>
>
>
> I'm writing these on the fly, and they are not out of our documentation yet,
> so take it for what it's worth:
>
>
>
> 1) AD Replication
>
> a. Understand Replication Internals
>
> i. Be
> able to troubleshoot and repair broken replication for common issues (secure
> channel, beyond TSL, name resolution dependencies ,etc)
>
> ii.
> Understand USN Rollback, and how to correct any potential failure points
>
> b. Understand design concerns around Sites & Services topology
>
> i.
> Effectively use BASL, Sites Links, Site Costing, Change Notification or
> other advanced features.
>
> 2) FRS or DFSR
>
> a. Understand how FRS and DFSR function (and differ)
>
> i.
> Understand common issues with FRS, and how to repair them, such as Journal
> Wrap, Morphed Folder, and Auth/Non Auth Restore.
>
>
>
> Those are a couple samples which might help set the tone for level 300
> scenarios. Remember the class will start content at 300, but will go in and
> out of 300-350.
>
>
>
> The overall gist is you should be able to "design", deploy, maintain, and
> fix things that are broken in most of the 5 categories (ADDS, ADLDS, ADFS,
> ADCS, ADRMS).
>
> ADRMS, ADFS, and ADCS will most likely have the highest level of newbie's
> during the class, and we understand that so the content for those will most
> likely slip back to level 250, so there are more basics, but for the ADDS
> you should really know your stuff.
>
>
>
> I'll work with Walter Boyd (PM for MCM irectory, and reports to Per), and
> see if we can publish our Objective Domain once it is finished.
>
>
>
> Let me know if you have more questions,
>
>
>
> Chris Ransom
>
> Microsoft Certified Master - Windows Server 2008 - Directory
>
> Senior Premier Field Engineer - Active Directory
>
> US Central Premier Field Engineering
>
> Microsoft Services
>
> Email: chrisran@microsoft.com
>
>
>
>
>
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Mark Parris (L)
> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 2:00 AM
> To: ActiveDir
> Subject: Re: AD: RE: [ActiveDir] McMaster's:AD
>
>
>
> Chris,
>
> What I really would like to know is a little bit more about the area's to
> study. I was at TechED and I heard Per's talk and I spoke with Trika so I
> understand the basics.
>
> The page on MSLearning is I feel a little nondescript in what content to
> learn or exact level of detail required.
>
> Prerequisites Experience
>
> Five or more years of hands-on experience with Windows Active Directory:
> installing, designing, configuring, and trouble shooting
>
> A thorough understanding of Windows Active Directory design and architecture
>
> A 300-level understanding of site component topology, forest operations and
> topology, Active Directory distributed file system, file replication
> services, security, client interactions, and Group Policy
>
> A basic understanding of Active Directory Certificate Services, Rights
> Management Services, Active Directory Federated Services, and ADAM/Active
> Directory Lightweight Directory Services
>
> Functional skills in basic protocol analysis, Hyper-V, scripting PKI, and IP
> addressing and routing
>
> Speak, understand, and write in fluent English
>
> It would be really good if this could be broken down into:
>
> 1. What a basic understanding actually means?
>
> 2. Functional skills - i.e. does this mean you have to be a guru or just
> that you can power on a VM?
>
> 3. A break down of what the level 300 content requires you to know, i.e.
> make sure you know replication inside out, know how to permission the AD,
> read SDDL for fun,
>
> I know it's in its infancy but it is something I would like to acheive and
> if and when I can get on it - I would like to be as prepared as I can be.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark Parris
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Chris Ransom <chrisran@microsoft.com>
> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:57:20 -0700
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org<ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org>
> Subject: AD: RE: [ActiveDir] McMaster's:AD
>
> What do you want to know about it?
>
>
>
> I'm working on finalizing the training content for the July rotation (which
> starts tomorrow), as we speak.
>
> And I wrote most of the lab exam, and some content for the first rotation.
> So ask, and we will see what if I can answer..
>
>
>
> Chris Ransom
>
> Microsoft Certified Master - Windows Server 2008 - Directory
>
> Senior Premier Field Engineer - Active Directory
>
> US Central Premier Field Engineering
>
> Microsoft Services
>
> Email: chrisran@microsoft.com
>
>
>
>
>
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Roelf Zomerman
> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 8:49 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] McMaster's:AD
>
>
>
> Well I can tell you more in the coming days and next two weeks (if they
> allow me).. cause guess what! Me is in redmond Right Now for that course!
>
>
>
> Indeed first year only in redmond, three written exams as far as I know now.
> You can try the exams again.. but it's gonna cost 250 per written en 1500
> for the final lab.
>
>
>
> More info:
> http://blogs.msdn.com/trika/archive/2008/06/26/more-on-the-certified-master-programs-from-me-per-the-program-owner.aspx
>
>
>
> -Roelf
>
>
>
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Brian Desmond
> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 6:22 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] McMaster's:AD
>
>
>
> The 18K buys you three weeks of classroom training/labs, two or three
> written exams, and a lab practical. It's a couple grand more to try again if
> you don't pass. First year it's only being offered in Redmond. Supposedly WW
> after that.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> Brian Desmond
> brian@briandesmond.com
>
> c - 312.731.3132
>
> On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Mark Parris (L) <lists@baseit.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Does anyone on the list hold the MCM:AD title as of yet? (People do!)
>
> Anyone planning on taking it?
>
> What was the experience like?
>
> What are people using to study?
>
> Any insider information?
>
> What does $18500 buy you (no airplane humour please)?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark Parris
>
>
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> ________________________________
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>
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Laura E. Hunter
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Microsoft MVP, Directory Services
(https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/laura)
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