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bsonposh
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 | | 09/24/2008 2:12 PM |
| If you have any ESX servers sitting around there are several free nagios
appliances that are basically plug and play on the vmware's website.
http://www.vmware.com/appliances/
On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Cynthia Haselton <chaselton@uchicago.edu>wrote:
> Thanks Brian,
>
> I'll check out that book and take a look at Nagios.
>
> I'm aware that I won't find something that works right out of the box, I
> just wish I could convince others of the same.
>
> Cynthia Haselton
> University of Chicago
> NSIT/DCS
> w: 773.702.2963
> p: 773.652.0065
> txt: 7736520065@page.metrocall.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:
> ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Brian Desmond
> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 10:09 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Monitoring AD Health: System Monitor or MOM?
>
> SA = Software Assurance.
>
> SCOM is a major upgrade from MOM in all regards. I'd pick up the orange
> SCOM unleashed book at Borders and read the chapters on what's new there, or
> just buy the book if you want. There is a lot more than the management packs
> being sealed as you describe.
>
>
> If you want a monitoring tool to magically work precisely to your spec the
> day you put install it, you're not going to find one. The only thing I can
> recommend in that regard is something like Nagios (free). It does nothing
> out of the box, so only what you tell it to monitor will be monitored.
> Whereas MOM/SCOM monitors everything basically and you tell it what not to.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> Brian Desmond
> brian@briandesmond.com
>
> c - 312.731.3132
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:
> ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Cynthia Haselton
> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 3:54 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Monitoring AD Health: System Monitor or MOM?
>
> Unfortunately, the problem would be convincing others to make that upgrade
> to SCOM2007.
> I forgot to mention this in my first email, but convincing others in our
> team to work with MOM2005 has been difficult. In their eyes, MOM is
> excessively chatty and "doesn't work right" because it doesn't do what they
> want right out of the box.
>
> Just out of curiosity, what about SCOM is so different? I did a little bit
> of reading when a teammate and I were trying to figure out if working with
> rules would be different in SCOM. The only difference I remember reading
> about working with rules in MOM and rules in SCOM is that you cannot alter
> the default rules; any modifications you make are automatically copied to a
> custom rule group.
>
> (SA = Software Agreement?)
>
> Cynthia Haselton
> University of Chicago
> NSIT/DCS
> w: 773.702.2963
> p: 773.652.0065
> txt: 7736520065@page.metrocall.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:
> ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Tim Vander Kooi
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:32 AM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Monitoring AD Health: System Monitor or MOM?
>
> Also, depending on whether or not you have SA on MOM2005, you would be
> better off to upgrade to SCOM2007 now and spend your time learning it
> instead of spending a bunch of time and energy learning an old system that
> will need to be updated eventually anyways. MOM and SCOM are quite
> different, enough so that what you learn about MOM will not carry over to
> SCOM.
> Just an opinion.
> Tim
> Microsoft MVP - Operations Manager
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:
> ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Brian Desmond
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:13 AM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Monitoring AD Health: System Monitor or MOM?
>
> Inline
>
> Thanks,
> Brian Desmond
> brian@briandesmond.com
>
> c - 312.731.3132
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:
> ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Cynthia Haselton
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 8:43 AM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: [ActiveDir] Monitoring AD Health: System Monitor or MOM?
>
> I'm a wet-behind-the-ears new AD admin (just passed the 70-294 which I took
> after our resident AD expert accepted a position with another company) and
> I'm trying to figure out the best way to monitor our AD environment. Hence
> the question in the subject, plus a couple more:
>
> 1. Is it advantageous to monitor AD on a continual basis? Our Exchange guy
> has a separate computer set up with System Monitor in graph mode that
> continually monitors Exchange. Should I do something similar for AD?
>
> [Brian Desmond]
> Well staring at a screen like that won't get you anything. Set MOM to send
> you email alerts, text messages, whatever works for you.
>
>
>
>
> 2. We do have MOM 2005 installed in our environment, but we're still
> adjusting to using it (our AD expert was also the MOM guy...I'm wrestling
> with that as well). Would it be better to rely on MOM for AD monitoring?
>
> [Brian Desmond]
> Yes. MOM does this well. You will need to tinker with it until you don't
> get any false alarms.
>
>
> 3. If MOM 2005 is better, what sort of tweaks should I configure for AD?
> Could I get it to display something that I could keep an eye on?
>
> [Brian Desmond]
> Get rid of the false alerts. Setup notifications to email you. Staring at
> the screen is a waste of time.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for any advice...if I'm leaving out something let me
> know.
>
> Cynthia Haselton
> University of Chicago
> NSIT/DCS
> w: 773.702.2963
> p: 773.652.0065
> txt: 7736520065@page.metrocall.com
>
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