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dloder
Posts:40
 | | 10/01/2008 8:13 AM |
| Tha's wh doy ualzaon shns.
Mul-doman fos + mos applaons = dfful ngaon
soluon lk M, whh I now psonally qua o a maalzd w of , an b usd o smplfy you fos o a fla suu. nd hanks o poxy, M s nllgn nough o handl wha you fos looks lk on h baknd. Kp all h goups fo hs app n M, and h's a smpl soluon fo h app o dal wh.
On downsd o M s h qumn fo a sond IT o b synhonzd o a h maalzd w. ffn soluons suh as Radan Log'sΏ] Vual oy an a smla ws on h fly.
Ώ] Tha's wo RLI fns n a ow. No, I'm no a shahold, jus a y sasfd usom ha hops Mosof's mba of ualzaon soon sas mong o . I kp sng no nd of h usfulnss fo doy ualzaon.
--- On Tu, 9/30/08, En Hall &l;n.hall@gmal.om&g; wo:
Fom: En Hall &l;n.hall@gmal.om&g; Subj: R: [] Goup Bs Pas To: @mal.ad.og a: Tusday, Spmb 30, 2008, 10:10 PM
Th on hng ha I ally don' lk abou doman loal goups s ha s y had o quy mmbshp aoss domans.
W w dlopng an applaon ha was gong o us doman loal goups o su a paula funon n h app. Th dlops wn' oo happy o ha ha h would ha o quy all goups n od o s f a us s a mmb of a doman loal goup.
oman loal goups mak h pong and audng had o do.
En
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| hallerec
Posts:6
 | | 10/01/2008 8:50 AM |
| I bl ha ou dlops wand o s h n ls of goups ha a us was a d mmb of. I would b laly asy o quy a GC o s f h us s a mmb of a doman loal goup. Th dlop qus was qu a whl ago and I don' qu mb all of h dals of wha hy wand. I jus mmb ha doman loals ausd som xa wok.
W wll hopfully b sang o nsga ual dos sholy. W do ha \M and ha usd o smplfy ou doy suu fo on applaon n paula. W don' us fo auhnaon so w ddn' a uss as bnd poxy objs.
En
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| lef
Posts:21
 | | 10/01/2008 10:01 AM |
| I hnk h momn, f h was on, has passd. I all a dalog I had wh h ognal MSFT PM fo M wh I fload h usfulnss of ual dos (and LP poxy, shma anslaon and so abu alasng .) and qud whh hs ould b a dlopmn of M - Radan and MaxWa w h xampls I ga. I go h mpsson a h m ha ual doy was no pa of Mosof's son fo h nps and, o b fa, f you ad aound n h doy blogosph h sm o b ohs ha a smlaly opposd ofn wh an agumn fom (unxposd) madoy/posonng sysm bng h ky o doy gnaon. Sn hn SP ha aqud MaxWa and Oal ha bom a play (hough OSng aquson).
I had hopd o s mo dlopmn of M fom Msof n h aas abo and (phaps mo fanfully) wh a nod o hs had as a dlopng unsal aalog fo S dploymns. M as a KC ha was anoh...
FWIW I ag on h usfulnss of ual dos, LP poxy . and n h un lma mgs/aqusons/ngaon pojs a lkly o b oupyng mnds and budgs fo som busnsss.
L Flgh
On Wd, 1 O 2008, ad Lod wo:
&g; jus a y sasfd usom ha hops Mosof's mba of &g; ualzaon soon sas mong o . I kp sng no nd of h &g; usfulnss fo doy ualzaon.
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| Tony
Posts:50
 | | 10/01/2008 5:34 PM |
| Ooh, I lk ha. J
dd o ha h assgnmn of a human own Ώ] o h goup (.g. usng h managdBy lnkd abu) and you ha somon auhoa o f o whn makng hangs, pfomng pod lanups, .
Tony
Ώ] lhough I pf o us h wod 'guadan' h, gn ha own/ona/manag alady ha manng whn an onx.
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of an Holm Sn: Thusday, 2 Oob 2008 7:43 a.m. To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
Y anoh ason o poson goup managmn. If you goup managmn poss nluds a ansaon log (of adds & mos, .g.), 's al o 'buld' a goup. dd o ha a fld of "why h hang was mad" and you omplan am sas o sml!
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Gllnm, Gudo Sn: Tusday, Spmb 30, 2008 8:32 PM To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
Of ous h s a dffn n wh h goup mmbshp s plad o - h mmb abu of boh GGs and LGs s jus plad bwn y C of h sam doman, whl h sam abu of UGs s plad o y GC n h fos.
Bu an you laboa how you app wand o alua h LG mmbshp of a us? If ally would nd o fgu ou whh LG's a us blongd o fos wd, hn ys, would ha o quy a C of y doman n h fos o fnd ou hos mmbshps - bu nsad of quyng all goups, ould jus quy h mmbof abu of h us a h GC po on a GC hosng h sp doman paons.
Bu laly, baus of h fa ha LG mmbshps of uss (and nsd goups) fom mo domans a no sod n h "hom" doman of h us (o nsd goup), hy also ha spal hallngs dung obj oy. So f you ak obj oy sous, you may wan o dump a las you LG goups podally fom y doman so ha you' ppad o o h mmbshps n as you nd o - dally nally. Ths would b lk ang a "unsal aalog" fo LGs.
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of En Hall Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 4:11 M To: @mal.ad.og Subj: R: [] Goup Bs Pas
Th on hng ha I ally don' lk abou doman loal goups s ha s y had o quy mmbshp aoss domans.
W w dlopng an applaon ha was gong o us doman loal goups o su a paula funon n h app. Th dlops wn' oo happy o ha ha h would ha o quy all goups n od o s f a us s a mmb of a doman loal goup.
oman loal goups mak h pong and audng had o do.
En
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| danholme
Posts:128
 | | 10/01/2008 6:54 PM |
| Yah... h's an llusaon of hs (y smpl, bu llusa) n h Wndows dmnsaon Rsou K.
us (non-hnal o hnal) opns a ool (an HT n hs as) ha lss all goups wh whh h us s assoad as ManagdBy (dly o baus h us s n a goup ha s h ManagdBy abu).
Th us an add/mo uss, bu no dly.
od s addd o an ss daabas (h's an nmday sp o alda h us's dny o aod spoofng)
shduld ask (should b a s n a hay poduon nonmn) aks h qus fom h ss daabas and maks h hang o usng h ask/s's lad dnals
Th daabas hn boms h auhoa log of wha happnd whn and by whom.
HTH
an
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Tony Muay Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 11:30 M To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
Ooh, I lk ha. J
dd o ha h assgnmn of a human own Ώ] o h goup (.g. usng h managdBy lnkd abu) and you ha somon auhoa o f o whn makng hangs, pfomng pod lanups, .
Tony
Ώ] lhough I pf o us h wod 'guadan' h, gn ha own/ona/manag alady ha manng whn an onx.
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of an Holm Sn: Thusday, 2 Oob 2008 7:43 a.m. To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
Y anoh ason o poson goup managmn. If you goup managmn poss nluds a ansaon log (of adds & mos, .g.), 's al o 'buld' a goup. dd o ha a fld of "why h hang was mad" and you omplan am sas o sml!
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Gllnm, Gudo Sn: Tusday, Spmb 30, 2008 8:32 PM To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
Of ous h s a dffn n wh h goup mmbshp s plad o - h mmb abu of boh GGs and LGs s jus plad bwn y C of h sam doman, whl h sam abu of UGs s plad o y GC n h fos.
Bu an you laboa how you app wand o alua h LG mmbshp of a us? If ally would nd o fgu ou whh LG's a us blongd o fos wd, hn ys, would ha o quy a C of y doman n h fos o fnd ou hos mmbshps - bu nsad of quyng all goups, ould jus quy h mmbof abu of h us a h GC po on a GC hosng h sp doman paons.
Bu laly, baus of h fa ha LG mmbshps of uss (and nsd goups) fom mo domans a no sod n h "hom" doman of h us (o nsd goup), hy also ha spal hallngs dung obj oy. So f you ak obj oy sous, you may wan o dump a las you LG goups podally fom y doman so ha you' ppad o o h mmbshps n as you nd o - dally nally. Ths would b lk ang a "unsal aalog" fo LGs...
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of En Hall Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 4:11 M To: @mal.ad.og Subj: R: [] Goup Bs Pas
Th on hng ha I ally don' lk abou doman loal goups s ha s y had o quy mmbshp aoss domans.
W w dlopng an applaon ha was gong o us doman loal goups o su a paula funon n h app. Th dlops wn' oo happy o ha ha h would ha o quy all goups n od o s f a us s a mmb of a doman loal goup.
oman loal goups mak h pong and audng had o do.
En
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| joe
Posts:77
 | | 10/01/2008 11:45 PM |
| Nw nsmn n M? Cazy alk!
Jo K.
----- Ognal Mssag ----- Fom: "L Flgh" &l;lf@ls.a.uk&g; To: &l;@mal.ad.og&g; Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 8:57 M Subj: R: [] Goup Bs Pas
I hnk h momn, f h was on, has passd. I all a dalog I had wh h ognal MSFT PM fo M wh I fload h usfulnss of ual dos (and LP poxy, shma anslaon and so abu alasng .) and qud whh hs ould b a dlopmn of M - Radan and MaxWa w h xampls I ga. I go h mpsson a h m ha ual doy was no pa of Mosof's son fo h nps and, o b fa, f you ad aound n h doy blogosph h sm o b ohs ha a smlaly opposd ofn wh an agumn fom (unxposd) madoy/posonng sysm bng h ky o doy gnaon. Sn hn SP ha aqud MaxWa and Oal ha bom a play (hough OSng aquson).
I had hopd o s mo dlopmn of M fom Msof n h aas abo and (phaps mo fanfully) wh a nod o hs had as a dlopng unsal aalog fo S dploymns. M as a KC ha was anoh...
FWIW I ag on h usfulnss of ual dos, LP poxy . and n h un lma mgs/aqusons/ngaon pojs a lkly o b oupyng mnds and budgs fo som busnsss.
L Flgh
Ls nfo : hp://www.ad.og/Ls.aspx Ls FQ : hp://www.ad.og/LsFQ.aspx Ls ah: hp://www.ad.og/ma/dfaul.aspx
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| JacksonShaw
Posts:4
 | | 10/01/2008 11:53 PM |
| Cazy alk ndd. How abou a managmn nfa o sa wh...(apologs o all h folks who ha a Ph n LP and bl ha s all *hy* nd and wha abou h s of us non-ok sns yps?)
Who was h ognal MSFT PM (podu manag) fo M? H pnd h las of a podu ha ddn' n ha suy bul n and you wan ual apabls o a managmn nfa?
Cazy alk ndd.
L's no fog ha M s wh a bunh of goo yankd ou of . If an' n , an' gong o b n M.
So h al quson s: Whn wll b o suppo o look lk a V?
(h h, h sad V!)
-----Ognal Mssag----- Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Jo Kaplan Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 11:42 PM To: @mal.ad.og Subj: R: [] Goup Bs Pas
Nw nsmn n M? Cazy alk!
Jo K.
----- Ognal Mssag ----- Fom: "L Flgh" &l;lf@ls.a.uk&g; To: &l;@mal.ad.og&g; Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 8:57 M Subj: R: [] Goup Bs Pas
I hnk h momn, f h was on, has passd. I all a dalog I had wh h ognal MSFT PM fo M wh I fload h usfulnss of ual dos (and LP poxy, shma anslaon and so abu alasng .) and qud whh hs ould b a dlopmn of M - Radan and MaxWa w h xampls I ga. I go h mpsson a h m ha ual doy was no pa of Mosof's son fo h nps and, o b fa, f you ad aound n h doy blogosph h sm o b ohs ha a smlaly opposd ofn wh an agumn fom (unxposd) madoy/posonng sysm bng h ky o doy gnaon. Sn hn SP ha aqud MaxWa and Oal ha bom a play (hough OSng aquson).
I had hopd o s mo dlopmn of M fom Msof n h aas abo and (phaps mo fanfully) wh a nod o hs had as a dlopng unsal aalog fo S dploymns. M as a KC ha was anoh...
FWIW I ag on h usfulnss of ual dos, LP poxy . and n h un lma mgs/aqusons/ngaon pojs a lkly o b oupyng mnds and budgs fo som busnsss.
L Flgh
Ls nfo : hp://www.ad.og/Ls.aspx Ls FQ : hp://www.ad.og/LsFQ.aspx Ls ah: hp://www.ad.og/ma/dfaul.aspx Ls nfo : hp://www.ad.og/Ls.aspx Ls FQ : hp://www.ad.og/LsFQ.aspx Ls ah: hp://www.ad.og/ma/dfaul.aspx
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| dmitrig
Posts:59
 | | 10/02/2008 1:53 AM |
| H's anoh psp.
M sad as an OOB (ou of band las). Whh mans had a spaa odbas fom (n hough was mosly a opy). I was py xpns o s -- w ould no us h WnSE og fo h OOB, had o do ousls, whh s a pan. So w wn ahad and mgd and M odbass n Longhon mfam. Bu ha am wh a alzaon ha w no long an nnoa n M as asly as w ould whn was an OOB -- wh shad odbas, h's shad sponsbly fo no bakng all xsng usoms wh som azy nw nnon.
So, h pndulum s unly swngng h oh way, and (o h bs of my knowldg) goup s lookng a makng M an OOB agan. If nohng ls, ould s as a s bd fo nnoaon.
No all s los.
Now, I am no su wha hy wll b fousng on: V o Ma o wha ls. Bu a las hy a unyng h hands.
m
PS. Managmn nfa (powshll, f you plas) s omng n Wn7, and woks wh boh and M. Odu, agd.
PPS. "d no n ha suy bul n"??? Wha a you alkng abou? d you man ha hs MSFT PM (podu manag) *should* ha pnd h las of a podu ha dd no n ha managmn UI?
-----Ognal Mssag----- Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Jakson Shaw Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 8:50 PM To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
Cazy alk ndd. How abou a managmn nfa o sa wh...(apologs o all h folks who ha a Ph n LP and bl ha s all *hy* nd and wha abou h s of us non-ok sns yps?)
Who was h ognal MSFT PM (podu manag) fo M? H pnd h las of a podu ha ddn' n ha suy bul n and you wan ual apabls o a managmn nfa?
Cazy alk ndd.
L's no fog ha M s wh a bunh of goo yankd ou of . If an' n , an' gong o b n M.
So h al quson s: Whn wll b o suppo o look lk a V?
(h h, h sad V!)
-----Ognal Mssag----- Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Jo Kaplan Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 11:42 PM To: @mal.ad.og Subj: R: [] Goup Bs Pas
Nw nsmn n M? Cazy alk!
Jo K.
----- Ognal Mssag ----- Fom: "L Flgh" &l;lf@ls.a.uk&g; To: &l;@mal.ad.og&g; Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 8:57 M Subj: R: [] Goup Bs Pas
I hnk h momn, f h was on, has passd. I all a dalog I had wh h ognal MSFT PM fo M wh I fload h usfulnss of ual dos (and LP poxy, shma anslaon and so abu alasng .) and qud whh hs ould b a dlopmn of M - Radan and MaxWa w h xampls I ga. I go h mpsson a h m ha ual doy was no pa of Mosof's son fo h nps and, o b fa, f you ad aound n h doy blogosph h sm o b ohs ha a smlaly opposd ofn wh an agumn fom (unxposd) madoy/posonng sysm bng h ky o doy gnaon. Sn hn SP ha aqud MaxWa and Oal ha bom a play (hough OSng aquson).
I had hopd o s mo dlopmn of M fom Msof n h aas abo and (phaps mo fanfully) wh a nod o hs had as a dlopng unsal aalog fo S dploymns. M as a KC ha was anoh...
FWIW I ag on h usfulnss of ual dos, LP poxy . and n h un lma mgs/aqusons/ngaon pojs a lkly o b oupyng mnds and budgs fo som busnsss.
L Flgh
Ls nfo : hp://www.ad.og/Ls.aspx Ls FQ : hp://www.ad.og/LsFQ.aspx Ls ah: hp://www.ad.og/ma/dfaul.aspx Ls nfo : hp://www.ad.og/Ls.aspx Ls FQ : hp://www.ad.og/LsFQ.aspx Ls ah: hp://www.ad.og/ma/dfaul.aspx
Ls nfo : hp://www.ad.og/Ls.aspx Ls FQ : hp://www.ad.og/LsFQ.aspx Ls ah: hp://www.ad.og/ma/dfaul.aspx
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| lef
Posts:21
 | | 10/02/2008 4:31 AM |
| On Wd, 1 O 2008, Jakson Shaw wo:
&g; Cazy alk ndd. How abou a managmn nfa o sa wh... &g; (apologs o all h folks who ha a Ph n LP and bl ha s &g; all *hy* nd and wha abou h s of us non-ok sns yps?)
Lak of a managmn nfa s a long sandng omplan hngs go a ll b n W2k8 - h Mosof wold has mod on (hnkng mo of Exhang h han ) owad Powshll w know ha's omng fo and Qus ha hlpd h ommuny wh ha.
&g; Who was h ognal MSFT PM (podu manag) fo M? H pnd &g; h las of a podu ha ddn' n ha suy bul n and you &g; wan ual apabls o a managmn nfa?
No su I follow ha, my ason fo mnonng h ognal PM was h nsgh h podd no h ual doy posps - I aually hnk h dd a y good job and h anly knw h podu.
&g; L's no fog ha M s wh a bunh of goo yankd ou of . &g; If an' n , an' gong o b n M.
I hnk 's mo 70/30 han ha, M was dffn n som sps - lagly du o dlop nsgh I susp. Th/my hop a ha m was ha M would lad nnoaon n som of h aas I mnond bu also n ohs lk RO paons and dlopmn of h plaon modl bu n ha mus ha lms as has .g. dp SM log -n fo NOS ha M dos no nd and so anno b a usful s fo us ass.
&g; So h al quson s: Whn wll b o suppo o look lk a V?
If Mosof ould b psuadd ha us ass xs fo hs hn hy ha h oppouny o "skp a gnaon" and mplmn hs hough say a mo flxbl handlng of namng onxs (ossRfs) n som ng and I would say ha M ould b h hl of ho.
Bu n all h abo, as a usom, how Mosof dlops/nnoas s no my ssu I jus know whay I would lk o s dld
L Flgh Ls nfo : hp://www.ad.og/Ls.aspx Ls FQ : hp://www.ad.og/LsFQ.aspx Ls ah: hp://www.ad.og/ma/dfaul.aspx
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| AFidel
Posts:71
 | | 10/02/2008 9:53 AM |
| I ag wh h appoah bu songly dsag wh h mplmnaon, ss should n b usd fo anyhng sous. Insad us MSE f you wan o go all MS o us SQL f you wan o sa som ohad.
Thanks, ndw
"an Holm" &l;dan.holm@nllm.om&g; Sn by: -own@mal.ad.og 10/01/2008 06:52 PM Plas spond o @mal.ad.og
To &l;@mal.ad.og&g;
Subj RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
Yah? h?s an llusaon of hs (y smpl, bu llusa) n h Wndows dmnsaon Rsou K.
us (non-hnal o hnal) opns a ool (an HT n hs as) ha lss all goups wh whh h us s assoad as ManagdBy (dly o baus h us s n a goup ha s h ManagdBy abu). Th us an add/mo uss, bu no dly. od s addd o an ss daabas (h?s an nmday sp o alda h us?s dny o aod spoofng) shduld ask (should b a s n a hay poduon nonmn) aks h qus fom h ss daabas and maks h hang o usng h ask/s?s lad dnals Th daabas hn boms h auhoa log of wha happnd whn and by whom.
HTH
an
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Tony Muay Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 11:30 M To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
Ooh, I lk ha. J
dd o ha h assgnmn of a human own Ώ] o h goup (.g. usng h managdBy lnkd abu) and you ha somon auhoa o f o whn makng hangs, pfomng pod lanups, .
Tony Ώ] lhough I pf o us h wod ?guadan? h, gn ha own/ona/manag alady ha manng whn an onx.
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of an Holm Sn: Thusday, 2 Oob 2008 7:43 a.m. To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
Y anoh ason o poson goup managmn. If you goup managmn poss nluds a ansaon log (of adds & mos, .g.), ?s al o ?buld? a goup. dd o ha a fld of ?why h hang was mad? and you omplan am sas o sml!
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Gllnm, Gudo Sn: Tusday, Spmb 30, 2008 8:32 PM To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
Of ous h s a dffn n wh h goup mmbshp s plad o ? h mmb abu of boh GGs and LGs s jus plad bwn y C of h sam doman, whl h sam abu of UGs s plad o y GC n h fos.
Bu an you laboa how you app wand o alua h LG mmbshp of a us? If ally would nd o fgu ou whh LG?s a us blongd o fos wd, hn ys, would ha o quy a C of y doman n h fos o fnd ou hos mmbshps ? bu nsad of quyng all goups, ould jus quy h mmbof abu of h us a h GC po on a GC hosng h sp doman paons.
Bu laly, baus of h fa ha LG mmbshps of uss (and nsd goups) fom mo domans a no sod n h ?hom? doman of h us (o nsd goup), hy also ha spal hallngs dung obj oy. So f you ak obj oy sous, you may wan o dump a las you LG goups podally fom y doman so ha you? ppad o o h mmbshps n as you nd o ? dally nally. Ths would b lk ang a ?unsal aalog? fo LGs?
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of En Hall Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 4:11 M To: @mal.ad.og Subj: R: [] Goup Bs Pas
Th on hng ha I ally don' lk abou doman loal goups s ha s y had o quy mmbshp aoss domans.
W w dlopng an applaon ha was gong o us doman loal goups o su a paula funon n h app. Th dlops wn' oo happy o ha ha h would ha o quy all goups n od o s f a us s a mmb of a doman loal goup.
oman loal goups mak h pong and audng had o do.
En
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| lef
Posts:21
 | | 10/02/2008 11:37 AM |
| To lafy, my usag of PM was man as Pogam Manag (wh whom I ommunad) no podu manag; I was hnkng of h MSFT {Pogam Manag - - Ts} ad.
Thanks L Flgh
&g; On Wd, 1 O 2008, Jakson Shaw wo: &g; &g;&g; Who was h ognal MSFT PM (podu manag) fo M? H pnd Ls nfo : hp://www.ad.og/Ls.aspx Ls FQ : hp://www.ad.og/LsFQ.aspx Ls ah: hp://www.ad.og/ma/dfaul.aspx
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| DonH
Posts:21
 | | 10/02/2008 1:13 PM |
| Som of us mmb ha guy. sngushd lookng, gay ha. on' woy, hough, I won' ll.
Communaon bwn d and podu manags a Mosof s sadly lmd, n pa baus hy sm o spak dffn languags. Podu manags spak n ms of usoms whl ds spak n ms of hnologs, and h wo nd o sa blankly pas ah oh whn hy m. n mpoan (f unspokn) pa of h job of pogam manag s o a as a anslao bwn h wo. Unfounaly ha ofn lads o abuon os, wh ds hnk ha samns/posons fom podu manags aually ognad wh pogam manags, and podu manags hnk h sam abou nws fom h ds, all of whh las yon onfusd abou why any paula fau/lmaon s/sn' n h podu. Som days 's amazng ha h whol am an g ogh long nough o shp anyhng a all.
on Hahl
-----Ognal Mssag----- Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of L Flgh Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 8:22 M To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
To lafy, my usag of PM was man as Pogam Manag (wh whom I ommunad) no podu manag; I was hnkng of h MSFT {Pogam Manag - - Ts} ad.
Thanks L Flgh
&g; On Wd, 1 O 2008, Jakson Shaw wo: &g; &g;&g; Who was h ognal MSFT PM (podu manag) fo M? H pnd Ls nfo : hp://www.ad.og/Ls.aspx Ls FQ : hp://www.ad.og/LsFQ.aspx Ls ah: hp://www.ad.og/ma/dfaul.aspx
Ls nfo : hp://www.ad.og/Ls.aspx Ls FQ : hp://www.ad.og/LsFQ.aspx Ls ah: hp://www.ad.og/ma/dfaul.aspx
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| Ravi.Sabharanjak@barclaysglobal.com
Posts:68
 | | 10/02/2008 1:31 PM |
| Ths xplans why 's had o g any faus addd o Mosof podus, n hough hs faus would aually nhan h alu of h podu. Has anyon fgud ou wha h bs way o g h npu ommunad o h podu ams s?
I' d h CR ou, wh no suss. In on as I' had a CR apd n hoy, how no mplmnd baus f was oo la o las fo s 2003 as s 2008 was abou o b lasd n 6 monhs, and oo la o nlud h fau n s 2008 as was nang las! Fo a mo n as, h am who wd h CR hld h WR mng whou psnaon fom h my TM o h as own - no y fa o m.
-Ra
-----Ognal Mssag----- Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of on Hahl Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 10:11 M To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
Som of us mmb ha guy. sngushd lookng, gay ha. on' woy, hough, I won' ll.
Communaon bwn d and podu manags a Mosof s sadly lmd, n pa baus hy sm o spak dffn languags. Podu manags spak n ms of usoms whl ds spak n ms of hnologs, and h wo nd o sa blankly pas ah oh whn hy m. n mpoan (f unspokn) pa of h job of pogam manag s o a as a anslao bwn h wo. Unfounaly ha ofn lads o abuon os, wh ds hnk ha samns/posons fom podu manags aually ognad wh pogam manags, and podu manags hnk h sam abou nws fom h ds, all of whh las yon onfusd abou why any paula fau/lmaon s/sn' n h podu. Som days 's amazng ha h whol am an g ogh long nough o shp anyhng a all.
on Hahl
-----Ognal Mssag----- Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of L Flgh Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 8:22 M To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
To lafy, my usag of PM was man as Pogam Manag (wh whom I ommunad) no podu manag; I was hnkng of h MSFT {Pogam Manag - - Ts} ad.
Thanks L Flgh
&g; On Wd, 1 O 2008, Jakson Shaw wo: &g; &g;&g; Who was h ognal MSFT PM (podu manag) fo M? H pnd Ls nfo : hp://www.ad.og/Ls.aspx Ls FQ : hp://www.ad.og/LsFQ.aspx Ls ah: hp://www.ad.og/ma/dfaul.aspx
Ls nfo : hp://www.ad.og/Ls.aspx Ls FQ : hp://www.ad.og/LsFQ.aspx Ls ah: hp://www.ad.og/ma/dfaul.aspx
--
Ths mssag and any aahmns a onfdnal, popay, and may b plgd. If hs mssag was msdd, Balays Global Insos (BGI) dos no wa any onfdnaly o plg. If you a no h nndd pn, plas nofy us mmdaly and dsoy h mssag whou dslosng s onns o anyon. ny dsbuon, us o opyng of hs -mal o h nfomaon onans by oh han an nndd pn s unauhozd. Th ws and opnons xpssd n hs -mal mssag a h auho's own and may no fl h ws and opnons of BGI, unlss h auho s auhozd by BGI o xpss suh ws o opnons on s bhalf. ll mal sn o o fom hs addss s subj o lon soag and w by BGI. lhough BGI opas an-us pogams, dos no ap sponsbly fo any damag whaso ausd by uss bng passd. Ls nfo : hp://www.ad.og/Ls.aspx Ls FQ : hp://www.ad.og/LsFQ.aspx Ls ah: hp://www.ad.og/ma/dfaul.aspx
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| alainlissoir
Posts:3
 | | 10/02/2008 2:32 PM |
| On way s dsb you houghs and das n hs foum
Of ous, mo han smply hang a b und on o off by dfaul h n h, wha I'm mosly nsd o ha s why you xpss h ds of a fau. Fo whh snao and usag onx? Tha's y mpoan!
Rgads, /lan
-----Ognal Mssag----- Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Sabhaanjak, Ra BGI SF Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 10:22 M To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
Ths xplans why 's had o g any faus addd o Mosof podus, n hough hs faus would aually nhan h alu of h podu. Has anyon fgud ou wha h bs way o g h npu ommunad o h podu ams s?
I' d h CR ou, wh no suss. In on as I' had a CR apd n hoy, how no mplmnd baus f was oo la o las fo s 2003 as s 2008 was abou o b lasd n 6 monhs, and oo la o nlud h fau n s 2008 as was nang las! Fo a mo n as, h am who wd h CR hld h WR mng whou psnaon fom h my TM o h as own - no y fa o m.
-Ra
-----Ognal Mssag----- Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of on Hahl Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 10:11 M To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
Som of us mmb ha guy. sngushd lookng, gay ha. on' woy, hough, I won' ll.
Communaon bwn d and podu manags a Mosof s sadly lmd, n pa baus hy sm o spak dffn languags. Podu manags spak n ms of usoms whl ds spak n ms of hnologs, and h wo nd o sa blankly pas ah oh whn hy m. n mpoan (f unspokn) pa of h job of pogam manag s o a as a anslao bwn h wo. Unfounaly ha ofn lads o abuon os, wh ds hnk ha samns/posons fom podu manags aually ognad wh pogam manags, and podu manags hnk h sam abou nws fom h ds, all of whh las yon onfusd abou why any paula fau/lmaon s/sn' n h podu. Som days 's amazng ha h whol am an g ogh long nough o shp anyhng a all.
on Hahl
-----Ognal Mssag----- Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of L Flgh Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 8:22 M To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
To lafy, my usag of PM was man as Pogam Manag (wh whom I ommunad) no podu manag; I was hnkng of h MSFT {Pogam Manag - - Ts} ad.
Thanks L Flgh
&g; On Wd, 1 O 2008, Jakson Shaw wo: &g; &g;&g; Who was h ognal MSFT PM (podu manag) fo M? H pnd Ls nfo : hp://www.ad.og/Ls.aspx Ls FQ : hp://www.ad.og/LsFQ.aspx Ls ah: hp://www.ad.og/ma/dfaul.aspx
Ls nfo : hp://www.ad.og/Ls.aspx Ls FQ : hp://www.ad.og/LsFQ.aspx Ls ah: hp://www.ad.og/ma/dfaul.aspx
--
Ths mssag and any aahmns a onfdnal, popay, and may b plgd. If hs mssag was msdd, Balays Global Insos (BGI) dos no wa any onfdnaly o plg. If you a no h nndd pn, plas nofy us mmdaly and dsoy h mssag whou dslosng s onns o anyon. ny dsbuon, us o opyng of hs -mal o h nfomaon onans by oh han an nndd pn s unauhozd. Th ws and opnons xpssd n hs -mal mssag a h auho's own and may no fl h ws and opnons of BGI, unlss h auho s auhozd by BGI o xpss suh ws o opnons on s bhalf. ll mal sn o o fom hs addss s subj o lon soag and w by BGI. lhough BGI opas an-us pogams, dos no ap sponsbly fo any damag whaso ausd by uss bng passd. Ls nfo : hp://www.ad.og/Ls.aspx Ls FQ : hp://www.ad.og/LsFQ.aspx Ls ah: hp://www.ad.og/ma/dfaul.aspx
Ls nfo : hp://www.ad.og/Ls.aspx Ls FQ : hp://www.ad.og/LsFQ.aspx Ls ah: hp://www.ad.og/ma/dfaul.aspx
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| danholme
Posts:128
 | | 10/02/2008 4:48 PM |
| bsoluly agd. Tha's why 's a *sampl*. In h wng of h book, w ndd o mnmz qumns so popl ould lan h naon of h omponns and dmn wha woks bs fo hm. Obously my 'poduon' posonng podus us SQL. Good pon.
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Fdl@dd.om Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 3:50 M To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
I ag wh h appoah bu songly dsag wh h mplmnaon, ss should n b usd fo anyhng sous. Insad us MSE f you wan o go all MS o us SQL f you wan o sa som ohad.
Thanks, ndw
"an Holm" &l;dan.holm@nllm.om&g; Sn by: -own@mal.ad.og
10/01/2008 06:52 PM
Plas spond o @mal.ad.og
To
&l;@mal.ad.og&g;
Subj
RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
Yah... h's an llusaon of hs (y smpl, bu llusa) n h Wndows dmnsaon Rsou K.
us (non-hnal o hnal) opns a ool (an HT n hs as) ha lss all goups wh whh h us s assoad as ManagdBy (dly o baus h us s n a goup ha s h ManagdBy abu). Th us an add/mo uss, bu no dly. od s addd o an ss daabas (h's an nmday sp o alda h us's dny o aod spoofng) shduld ask (should b a s n a hay poduon nonmn) aks h qus fom h ss daabas and maks h hang o usng h ask/s's lad dnals Th daabas hn boms h auhoa log of wha happnd whn and by whom.
HTH
an
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Tony Muay Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 11:30 M To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
Ooh, I lk ha. J
dd o ha h assgnmn of a human own Ώ] o h goup (.g. usng h managdBy lnkd abu) and you ha somon auhoa o f o whn makng hangs, pfomng pod lanups, .
Tony Ώ] lhough I pf o us h wod 'guadan' h, gn ha own/ona/manag alady ha manng whn an onx.
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of an Holm Sn: Thusday, 2 Oob 2008 7:43 a.m. To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
Y anoh ason o poson goup managmn. If you goup managmn poss nluds a ansaon log (of adds & mos, .g.), 's al o 'buld' a goup. dd o ha a fld of "why h hang was mad" and you omplan am sas o sml!
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Gllnm, Gudo Sn: Tusday, Spmb 30, 2008 8:32 PM To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
Of ous h s a dffn n wh h goup mmbshp s plad o - h mmb abu of boh GGs and LGs s jus plad bwn y C of h sam doman, whl h sam abu of UGs s plad o y GC n h fos.
Bu an you laboa how you app wand o alua h LG mmbshp of a us? If ally would nd o fgu ou whh LG's a us blongd o fos wd, hn ys, would ha o quy a C of y doman n h fos o fnd ou hos mmbshps - bu nsad of quyng all goups, ould jus quy h mmbof abu of h us a h GC po on a GC hosng h sp doman paons.
Bu laly, baus of h fa ha LG mmbshps of uss (and nsd goups) fom mo domans a no sod n h "hom" doman of h us (o nsd goup), hy also ha spal hallngs dung obj oy. So f you ak obj oy sous, you may wan o dump a las you LG goups podally fom y doman so ha you' ppad o o h mmbshps n as you nd o - dally nally. Ths would b lk ang a "unsal aalog" fo LGs...
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of En Hall Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 4:11 M To: @mal.ad.og Subj: R: [] Goup Bs Pas
Th on hng ha I ally don' lk abou doman loal goups s ha s y had o quy mmbshp aoss domans.
W w dlopng an applaon ha was gong o us doman loal goups o su a paula funon n h app. Th dlops wn' oo happy o ha ha h would ha o quy all goups n od o s f a us s a mmb of a doman loal goup.
oman loal goups mak h pong and audng had o do.
En
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| michael1
Posts:181
 | | 10/02/2008 5:05 PM |
| I goa ask - and hs s a al quson, baus I sll s so MNY sampls usng ss - sn MSE 2000 was lasd, and hn SQL 2005 Expss and SQL 2008 Expss - n wha way s ss a b sampl daabas han SQL?
I oss mo. Th UI a las, uss mo mmoy. I ould go on..
(I s also MUCH mo panful o w od fo..h SQL ommand pas n ss s jus lam.)
Rgads,
Mhal B. Smh, MCITP:S,EM/MCSE/Exhang MVP
My blog: hp://ThEssnalExhang.om/blogs/mhal
Lnk wh m a: hp://www.lnkdn.om/n/hssnalxhang
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of an Holm Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 4:44 PM To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
bsoluly agd. Tha's why 's a *sampl*. In h wng of h book, w ndd o mnmz qumns so popl ould lan h naon of h omponns and dmn wha woks bs fo hm. Obously my 'poduon' posonng podus us SQL. Good pon.
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Fdl@dd.om Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 3:50 M To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
I ag wh h appoah bu songly dsag wh h mplmnaon, ss should n b usd fo anyhng sous. Insad us MSE f you wan o go all MS o us SQL f you wan o sa som ohad.
Thanks, ndw
"an Holm" &l;dan.holm@nllm.om&g; Sn by: -own@mal.ad.og
10/01/2008 06:52 PM
Plas spond o @mal.ad.og
To
&l;@mal.ad.og&g;
Subj
RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
Yah. h's an llusaon of hs (y smpl, bu llusa) n h Wndows dmnsaon Rsou K.
us (non-hnal o hnal) opns a ool (an HT n hs as) ha lss all goups wh whh h us s assoad as ManagdBy (dly o baus h us s n a goup ha s h ManagdBy abu). Th us an add/mo uss, bu no dly. od s addd o an ss daabas (h's an nmday sp o alda h us's dny o aod spoofng) shduld ask (should b a s n a hay poduon nonmn) aks h qus fom h ss daabas and maks h hang o usng h ask/s's lad dnals Th daabas hn boms h auhoa log of wha happnd whn and by whom.
HTH
an
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Tony Muay Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 11:30 M To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
Ooh, I lk ha. J
dd o ha h assgnmn of a human own Ώ] o h goup (.g. usng h managdBy lnkd abu) and you ha somon auhoa o f o whn makng hangs, pfomng pod lanups, .
Tony Ώ] lhough I pf o us h wod 'guadan' h, gn ha own/ona/manag alady ha manng whn an onx.
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of an Holm Sn: Thusday, 2 Oob 2008 7:43 a.m. To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
Y anoh ason o poson goup managmn. If you goup managmn poss nluds a ansaon log (of adds & mos, .g.), 's al o 'buld' a goup. dd o ha a fld of "why h hang was mad" and you omplan am sas o sml!
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Gllnm, Gudo Sn: Tusday, Spmb 30, 2008 8:32 PM To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
Of ous h s a dffn n wh h goup mmbshp s plad o - h mmb abu of boh GGs and LGs s jus plad bwn y C of h sam doman, whl h sam abu of UGs s plad o y GC n h fos.
Bu an you laboa how you app wand o alua h LG mmbshp of a us? If ally would nd o fgu ou whh LG's a us blongd o fos wd, hn ys, would ha o quy a C of y doman n h fos o fnd ou hos mmbshps - bu nsad of quyng all goups, ould jus quy h mmbof abu of h us a h GC po on a GC hosng h sp doman paons.
Bu laly, baus of h fa ha LG mmbshps of uss (and nsd goups) fom mo domans a no sod n h "hom" doman of h us (o nsd goup), hy also ha spal hallngs dung obj oy. So f you ak obj oy sous, you may wan o dump a las you LG goups podally fom y doman so ha you' ppad o o h mmbshps n as you nd o - dally nally. Ths would b lk ang a "unsal aalog" fo LGs.
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of En Hall Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 4:11 M To: @mal.ad.og Subj: R: [] Goup Bs Pas
Th on hng ha I ally don' lk abou doman loal goups s ha s y had o quy mmbshp aoss domans.
W w dlopng an applaon ha was gong o us doman loal goups o su a paula funon n h app. Th dlops wn' oo happy o ha ha h would ha o quy all goups n od o s f a us s a mmb of a doman loal goup.
oman loal goups mak h pong and audng had o do.
En
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| gabriel/tfi
Posts:145
 | | 10/02/2008 5:58 PM |
| N quson. I hnk s jus hsoal hag and ha
. n a say an us ss! LOL! J
Gabl.
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Mhal B. Smh Sn: godì 2 oob 2008 23.01 To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
I goa ask and hs s a al quson, baus I sll s so MNY sampls usng ss sn MSE 2000 was lasd, and hn SQL 2005 Expss and SQL 2008 Expss n wha way s ss a b sampl daabas han SQL?
I oss mo. Th UI a las, uss mo mmoy. I ould go on
.
(I s also MUCH mo panful o w od fo
.h SQL ommand pas n ss s jus lam.)
Rgads,
Mhal B. Smh, MCITP:S,EM/MCSE/Exhang MVP
My blog: hp://ThEssnalExhang.om/blogs/mhal
Lnk wh m a: hp://www.lnkdn.om/n/hssnalxhang
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of an Holm Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 4:44 PM To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
bsoluly agd. Thas why s a *sampl*. In h wng of h book, w ndd o mnmz qumns so popl ould lan h naon of h omponns and dmn wha woks bs fo hm. Obously my poduon posonng podus us SQL. Good pon.
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Fdl@dd.om Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 3:50 M To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
I ag wh h appoah bu songly dsag wh h mplmnaon, ss should n b usd fo anyhng sous. Insad us MSE f you wan o go all MS o us SQL f you wan o sa som ohad.
Thanks, ndw
"an Holm" &l;dan.holm@nllm.om&g; Sn by: -own@mal.ad.og
10/01/2008 06:52 PM
Plas spond o @mal.ad.og
To
&l;@mal.ad.og&g;
Subj
RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
Yah
hs an llusaon of hs (y smpl, bu llusa) n h Wndows dmnsaon Rsou K.
us (non-hnal o hnal) opns a ool (an HT n hs as) ha lss all goups wh whh h us s assoad as ManagdBy (dly o baus h us s n a goup ha s h ManagdBy abu). Th us an add/mo uss, bu no dly. od s addd o an ss daabas (hs an nmday sp o alda h uss dny o aod spoofng) shduld ask (should b a s n a hay poduon nonmn) aks h qus fom h ss daabas and maks h hang o usng h ask/ss lad dnals Th daabas hn boms h auhoa log of wha happnd whn and by whom.
HTH
an
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Tony Muay Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 11:30 M To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
Ooh, I lk ha. J
dd o ha h assgnmn of a human own Ώ] o h goup (.g. usng h managdBy lnkd abu) and you ha somon auhoa o f o whn makng hangs, pfomng pod lanups, .
Tony Ώ] lhough I pf o us h wod guadan h, gn ha own/ona/manag alady ha manng whn an onx.
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of an Holm Sn: Thusday, 2 Oob 2008 7:43 a.m. To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
Y anoh ason o poson goup managmn. If you goup managmn poss nluds a ansaon log (of adds & mos, .g.), s al o buld a goup. dd o ha a fld of why h hang was mad and you omplan am sas o sml!
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Gllnm, Gudo Sn: Tusday, Spmb 30, 2008 8:32 PM To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
Of ous h s a dffn n wh h goup mmbshp s plad o h mmb abu of boh GGs and LGs s jus plad bwn y C of h sam doman, whl h sam abu of UGs s plad o y GC n h fos.
Bu an you laboa how you app wand o alua h LG mmbshp of a us? If ally would nd o fgu ou whh LGs a us blongd o fos wd, hn ys, would ha o quy a C of y doman n h fos o fnd ou hos mmbshps bu nsad of quyng all goups, ould jus quy h mmbof abu of h us a h GC po on a GC hosng h sp doman paons.
Bu laly, baus of h fa ha LG mmbshps of uss (and nsd goups) fom mo domans a no sod n h hom doman of h us (o nsd goup), hy also ha spal hallngs dung obj oy. So f you ak obj oy sous, you may wan o dump a las you LG goups podally fom y doman so ha you ppad o o h mmbshps n as you nd o dally nally. Ths would b lk ang a unsal aalog fo LGs
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of En Hall Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 4:11 M To: @mal.ad.og Subj: R: [] Goup Bs Pas
Th on hng ha I ally don' lk abou doman loal goups s ha s y had o quy mmbshp aoss domans.
W w dlopng an applaon ha was gong o us doman loal goups o su a paula funon n h app. Th dlops wn' oo happy o ha ha h would ha o quy all goups n od o s f a us s a mmb of a doman loal goup.
oman loal goups mak h pong and audng had o do.
En
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| bdesmond
Posts:358
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| You don' nd o nsall ass o us an MB n an app. X64 s a b mo swy bu ha asd...
I lk usng SqlL o SQL S Compa- hosd nsd h app so you don' ha o nsall anyhng. Knd of lk JET
Thanks, Ban smond ban@bandsmond.om
- 312.731.3132
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Mhal B. Smh Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 4:01 PM To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
I goa ask - and hs s a al quson, baus I sll s so MNY sampls usng ss - sn MSE 2000 was lasd, and hn SQL 2005 Expss and SQL 2008 Expss - n wha way s ss a b sampl daabas han SQL?
I oss mo. Th UI a las, uss mo mmoy. I ould go on....
(I s also MUCH mo panful o w od fo....h SQL ommand pas n ss s jus lam.)
Rgads,
Mhal B. Smh, MCITP:S,EM/MCSE/Exhang MVP My blog: hp://ThEssnalExhang.om/blogs/mhal Lnk wh m a: hp://www.lnkdn.om/n/hssnalxhang
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of an Holm Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 4:44 PM To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
bsoluly agd. Tha's why 's a *sampl*. In h wng of h book, w ndd o mnmz qumns so popl ould lan h naon of h omponns and dmn wha woks bs fo hm. Obously my 'poduon' posonng podus us SQL. Good pon.
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Fdl@dd.om Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 3:50 M To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
I ag wh h appoah bu songly dsag wh h mplmnaon, ss should n b usd fo anyhng sous. Insad us MSE f you wan o go all MS o us SQL f you wan o sa som ohad.
Thanks, ndw "an Holm" &l;dan.holm@nllm.om&g; Sn by: -own@mal.ad.og
10/01/2008 06:52 PM Plas spond o @mal.ad.og
To
&l;@mal.ad.og&g;
Subj
RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
Yah... h's an llusaon of hs (y smpl, bu llusa) n h Wndows dmnsaon Rsou K.
us (non-hnal o hnal) opns a ool (an HT n hs as) ha lss all goups wh whh h us s assoad as ManagdBy (dly o baus h us s n a goup ha s h ManagdBy abu). Th us an add/mo uss, bu no dly. od s addd o an ss daabas (h's an nmday sp o alda h us's dny o aod spoofng) shduld ask (should b a s n a hay poduon nonmn) aks h qus fom h ss daabas and maks h hang o usng h ask/s's lad dnals Th daabas hn boms h auhoa log of wha happnd whn and by whom.
HTH
an
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Tony Muay Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 11:30 M To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
Ooh, I lk ha.
dd o ha h assgnmn of a human own Ώ] o h goup (.g. usng h managdBy lnkd abu) and you ha somon auhoa o f o whn makng hangs, pfomng pod lanups, .
Tony Ώ] lhough I pf o us h wod 'guadan' h, gn ha own/ona/manag alady ha manng whn an onx.
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of an Holm Sn: Thusday, 2 Oob 2008 7:43 a.m. To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
Y anoh ason o poson goup managmn. If you goup managmn poss nluds a ansaon log (of adds & mos, .g.), 's al o 'buld' a goup. dd o ha a fld of "why h hang was mad" and you omplan am sas o sml!
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Gllnm, Gudo Sn: Tusday, Spmb 30, 2008 8:32 PM To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
Of ous h s a dffn n wh h goup mmbshp s plad o - h mmb abu of boh GGs and LGs s jus plad bwn y C of h sam doman, whl h sam abu of UGs s plad o y GC n h fos.
Bu an you laboa how you app wand o alua h LG mmbshp of a us? If ally would nd o fgu ou whh LG's a us blongd o fos wd, hn ys, would ha o quy a C of y doman n h fos o fnd ou hos mmbshps - bu nsad of quyng all goups, ould jus quy h mmbof abu of h us a h GC po on a GC hosng h sp doman paons.
Bu laly, baus of h fa ha LG mmbshps of uss (and nsd goups) fom mo domans a no sod n h "hom" doman of h us (o nsd goup), hy also ha spal hallngs dung obj oy. So f you ak obj oy sous, you may wan o dump a las you LG goups podally fom y doman so ha you' ppad o o h mmbshps n as you nd o - dally nally. Ths would b lk ang a "unsal aalog" fo LGs...
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of En Hall Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 4:11 M To: @mal.ad.og Subj: R: [] Goup Bs Pas
Th on hng ha I ally don' lk abou doman loal goups s ha s y had o quy mmbshp aoss domans.
W w dlopng an applaon ha was gong o us doman loal goups o su a paula funon n h app. Th dlops wn' oo happy o ha ha h would ha o quy all goups n od o s f a us s a mmb of a doman loal goup.
oman loal goups mak h pong and audng had o do.
En
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| michael1
Posts:181
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| hhh..I ddn' know ha. Thanks.
Rgads,
Mhal B. Smh, MCITP:S,EM/MCSE/Exhang MVP
My blog: hp://ThEssnalExhang.om/blogs/mhal
Lnk wh m a: hp://www.lnkdn.om/n/hssnalxhang
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Ban smond Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 6:18 PM To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
You don' nd o nsall ass o us an MB n an app. X64 s a b mo swy bu ha asd.
I lk usng SqlL o SQL S Compa- hosd nsd h app so you don' ha o nsall anyhng. Knd of lk JET
Thanks,
Ban smond
ban@bandsmond.om
- 312.731.3132
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Mhal B. Smh Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 4:01 PM To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
I goa ask - and hs s a al quson, baus I sll s so MNY sampls usng ss - sn MSE 2000 was lasd, and hn SQL 2005 Expss and SQL 2008 Expss - n wha way s ss a b sampl daabas han SQL?
I oss mo. Th UI a las, uss mo mmoy. I ould go on..
(I s also MUCH mo panful o w od fo..h SQL ommand pas n ss s jus lam.)
Rgads,
Mhal B. Smh, MCITP:S,EM/MCSE/Exhang MVP
My blog: hp://ThEssnalExhang.om/blogs/mhal
Lnk wh m a: hp://www.lnkdn.om/n/hssnalxhang
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of an Holm Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 4:44 PM To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
bsoluly agd. Tha's why 's a *sampl*. In h wng of h book, w ndd o mnmz qumns so popl ould lan h naon of h omponns and dmn wha woks bs fo hm. Obously my 'poduon' posonng podus us SQL. Good pon.
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Fdl@dd.om Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 3:50 M To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
I ag wh h appoah bu songly dsag wh h mplmnaon, ss should n b usd fo anyhng sous. Insad us MSE f you wan o go all MS o us SQL f you wan o sa som ohad.
Thanks, ndw
"an Holm" &l;dan.holm@nllm.om&g; Sn by: -own@mal.ad.og
10/01/2008 06:52 PM
Plas spond o @mal.ad.og
To
&l;@mal.ad.og&g;
Subj
RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
Yah. h's an llusaon of hs (y smpl, bu llusa) n h Wndows dmnsaon Rsou K.
us (non-hnal o hnal) opns a ool (an HT n hs as) ha lss all goups wh whh h us s assoad as ManagdBy (dly o baus h us s n a goup ha s h ManagdBy abu). Th us an add/mo uss, bu no dly. od s addd o an ss daabas (h's an nmday sp o alda h us's dny o aod spoofng) shduld ask (should b a s n a hay poduon nonmn) aks h qus fom h ss daabas and maks h hang o usng h ask/s's lad dnals Th daabas hn boms h auhoa log of wha happnd whn and by whom.
HTH
an
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Tony Muay Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 11:30 M To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
Ooh, I lk ha. J
dd o ha h assgnmn of a human own Ώ] o h goup (.g. usng h managdBy lnkd abu) and you ha somon auhoa o f o whn makng hangs, pfomng pod lanups, .
Tony Ώ] lhough I pf o us h wod 'guadan' h, gn ha own/ona/manag alady ha manng whn an onx.
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of an Holm Sn: Thusday, 2 Oob 2008 7:43 a.m. To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
Y anoh ason o poson goup managmn. If you goup managmn poss nluds a ansaon log (of adds & mos, .g.), 's al o 'buld' a goup. dd o ha a fld of "why h hang was mad" and you omplan am sas o sml!
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Gllnm, Gudo Sn: Tusday, Spmb 30, 2008 8:32 PM To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
Of ous h s a dffn n wh h goup mmbshp s plad o - h mmb abu of boh GGs and LGs s jus plad bwn y C of h sam doman, whl h sam abu of UGs s plad o y GC n h fos.
Bu an you laboa how you app wand o alua h LG mmbshp of a us? If ally would nd o fgu ou whh LG's a us blongd o fos wd, hn ys, would ha o quy a C of y doman n h fos o fnd ou hos mmbshps - bu nsad of quyng all goups, ould jus quy h mmbof abu of h us a h GC po on a GC hosng h sp doman paons.
Bu laly, baus of h fa ha LG mmbshps of uss (and nsd goups) fom mo domans a no sod n h "hom" doman of h us (o nsd goup), hy also ha spal hallngs dung obj oy. So f you ak obj oy sous, you may wan o dump a las you LG goups podally fom y doman so ha you' ppad o o h mmbshps n as you nd o - dally nally. Ths would b lk ang a "unsal aalog" fo LGs.
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of En Hall Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 4:11 M To: @mal.ad.og Subj: R: [] Goup Bs Pas
Th on hng ha I ally don' lk abou doman loal goups s ha s y had o quy mmbshp aoss domans.
W w dlopng an applaon ha was gong o us doman loal goups o su a paula funon n h app. Th dlops wn' oo happy o ha ha h would ha o quy all goups n od o s f a us s a mmb of a doman loal goup.
oman loal goups mak h pong and audng had o do.
En
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| danholme
Posts:128
 | | 10/02/2008 8:22 PM |
| Ys... h ss OBC d dos yhng, no ss (h ln).
Usd ass so ha s "say asy" o ad logs J... no ha I dsag wh you n h slghs... SQL Expss/CE/Sd/... muh mo obus ousd of a sampl.
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Mhal B. Smh Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 1:38 PM To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
hhh....I ddn' know ha. Thanks.
Rgads,
Mhal B. Smh, MCITP:S,EM/MCSE/Exhang MVP
My blog: hp://ThEssnalExhang.om/blogs/mhal
Lnk wh m a: hp://www.lnkdn.om/n/hssnalxhang
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Ban smond Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 6:18 PM To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
You don' nd o nsall ass o us an MB n an app. X64 s a b mo swy bu ha asd...
I lk usng SqlL o SQL S Compa- hosd nsd h app so you don' ha o nsall anyhng. Knd of lk JET
Thanks,
Ban smond
ban@bandsmond.om
- 312.731.3132
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Mhal B. Smh Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 4:01 PM To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
I goa ask - and hs s a al quson, baus I sll s so MNY sampls usng ss - sn MSE 2000 was lasd, and hn SQL 2005 Expss and SQL 2008 Expss - n wha way s ss a b sampl daabas han SQL?
I oss mo. Th UI a las, uss mo mmoy. I ould go on....
(I s also MUCH mo panful o w od fo....h SQL ommand pas n ss s jus lam.)
Rgads,
Mhal B. Smh, MCITP:S,EM/MCSE/Exhang MVP
My blog: hp://ThEssnalExhang.om/blogs/mhal
Lnk wh m a: hp://www.lnkdn.om/n/hssnalxhang
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of an Holm Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 4:44 PM To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
bsoluly agd. Tha's why 's a *sampl*. In h wng of h book, w ndd o mnmz qumns so popl ould lan h naon of h omponns and dmn wha woks bs fo hm. Obously my 'poduon' posonng podus us SQL. Good pon.
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Fdl@dd.om Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 3:50 M To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
I ag wh h appoah bu songly dsag wh h mplmnaon, ss should n b usd fo anyhng sous. Insad us MSE f you wan o go all MS o us SQL f you wan o sa som ohad.
Thanks, ndw
"an Holm" &l;dan.holm@nllm.om&g; Sn by: -own@mal.ad.og
10/01/2008 06:52 PM
Plas spond o @mal.ad.og
To
&l;@mal.ad.og&g;
Subj
RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
Yah... h's an llusaon of hs (y smpl, bu llusa) n h Wndows dmnsaon Rsou K.
us (non-hnal o hnal) opns a ool (an HT n hs as) ha lss all goups wh whh h us s assoad as ManagdBy (dly o baus h us s n a goup ha s h ManagdBy abu). Th us an add/mo uss, bu no dly. od s addd o an ss daabas (h's an nmday sp o alda h us's dny o aod spoofng) shduld ask (should b a s n a hay poduon nonmn) aks h qus fom h ss daabas and maks h hang o usng h ask/s's lad dnals Th daabas hn boms h auhoa log of wha happnd whn and by whom.
HTH
an
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Tony Muay Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 11:30 M To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
Ooh, I lk ha. J
dd o ha h assgnmn of a human own Ώ] o h goup (.g. usng h managdBy lnkd abu) and you ha somon auhoa o f o whn makng hangs, pfomng pod lanups, .
Tony Ώ] lhough I pf o us h wod 'guadan' h, gn ha own/ona/manag alady ha manng whn an onx.
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of an Holm Sn: Thusday, 2 Oob 2008 7:43 a.m. To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
Y anoh ason o poson goup managmn. If you goup managmn poss nluds a ansaon log (of adds & mos, .g.), 's al o 'buld' a goup. dd o ha a fld of "why h hang was mad" and you omplan am sas o sml!
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Gllnm, Gudo Sn: Tusday, Spmb 30, 2008 8:32 PM To: @mal.ad.og Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas
Of ous h s a dffn n wh h goup mmbshp s plad o - h mmb abu of boh GGs and LGs s jus plad bwn y C of h sam doman, whl h sam abu of UGs s plad o y GC n h fos.
Bu an you laboa how you app wand o alua h LG mmbshp of a us? If ally would nd o fgu ou whh LG's a us blongd o fos wd, hn ys, would ha o quy a C of y doman n h fos o fnd ou hos mmbshps - bu nsad of quyng all goups, ould jus quy h mmbof abu of h us a h GC po on a GC hosng h sp doman paons.
Bu laly, baus of h fa ha LG mmbshps of uss (and nsd goups) fom mo domans a no sod n h "hom" doman of h us (o nsd goup), hy also ha spal hallngs dung obj oy. So f you ak obj oy sous, you may wan o dump a las you LG goups podally fom y doman so ha you' ppad o o h mmbshps n as you nd o - dally nally. Ths would b lk ang a "unsal aalog" fo LGs...
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of En Hall Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 4:11 M To: @mal.ad.og Subj: R: [] Goup Bs Pas
Th on hng ha I ally don' lk abou doman loal goups s ha s y had o quy mmbshp aoss domans.
W w dlopng an applaon ha was gong o us doman loal goups o su a paula funon n h app. Th dlops wn' oo happy o ha ha h would ha o quy all goups n od o s f a us s a mmb of a doman loal goup.
oman loal goups mak h pong and audng had o do.
En
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