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dloderUser is Offline

Posts:40

10/01/2008 8:13 AM  
Tha's wh doy ualzaon shns.

Mul-doman fos + mos applaons = dfful ngaon

soluon lk M, whh I now psonally qua o a maalzd w of , an b usd o smplfy you fos o a fla suu.  nd hanks o poxy, M s nllgn nough o handl wha you fos looks lk on h baknd.  Kp all h goups fo hs app n M, and h's a smpl soluon fo h app o dal wh.

On downsd o M s h qumn fo a sond IT o b synhonzd o a h maalzd w.  ffn soluons suh as Radan Log'sΏ] Vual oy an a smla ws on h fly.

Ώ] Tha's wo RLI fns n a ow.  No, I'm no a shahold, jus a y sasfd usom ha hops Mosof's mba of ualzaon soon sas mong o .  I kp sng no nd of h usfulnss fo doy ualzaon.


--- On Tu, 9/30/08, En Hall &l;n.hall@gmal.om&g; wo:

Fom: En Hall &l;n.hall@gmal.om&g;
Subj: R: [] Goup Bs Pas
To: @mal.ad.og
a: Tusday, Spmb 30, 2008, 10:10 PM




Th on hng ha I ally don' lk abou doman loal goups s ha s y had o quy mmbshp aoss domans.  

W w dlopng an applaon ha was gong o us doman loal goups o su a paula funon n h app.  Th dlops wn' oo happy o ha ha h would ha o quy all goups n od o s f a us s a mmb of a doman loal goup.

oman loal goups mak h pong and audng had o do.

En
hallerecUser is Offline

Posts:6

10/01/2008 8:50 AM  
I bl ha ou dlops wand o s h n ls of goups
ha a us was a d mmb of. I would b laly asy o quy a
GC o s f h us s a mmb of a doman loal goup. Th dlop
qus was qu a whl ago and I don' qu mb all of h dals of
wha hy wand. I jus mmb ha doman loals ausd som xa
wok.

W wll hopfully b sang o nsga ual dos
sholy. W do ha \M and ha usd o smplfy ou doy
suu fo on applaon n paula. W don' us fo
auhnaon so w ddn' a uss as bnd poxy objs.

En

lefUser is Offline

Posts:21

10/01/2008 10:01 AM  

I hnk h momn, f h was on, has passd. I all a dalog
I had wh h ognal MSFT PM fo M wh I fload h usfulnss
of ual dos (and LP poxy, shma anslaon and so
abu alasng .) and qud whh hs ould b a dlopmn
of M - Radan and MaxWa w h xampls I ga.
I go h mpsson a h m ha ual
doy was no pa of Mosof's son fo h nps and, o b
fa, f you ad aound n h doy blogosph h sm o b
ohs ha a smlaly opposd ofn wh an agumn fom (unxposd)
madoy/posonng sysm bng h ky o doy gnaon.
Sn hn SP ha aqud MaxWa and Oal ha bom a play
(hough OSng aquson).

I had hopd o s mo dlopmn of M fom Msof n h aas
abo and (phaps mo fanfully) wh a nod o hs had as a
dlopng unsal aalog fo S dploymns. M as a KC
ha was anoh...

FWIW I ag on h usfulnss of ual dos, LP poxy .
and n h un lma mgs/aqusons/ngaon pojs a
lkly o b oupyng mnds and budgs fo som busnsss.

L Flgh

On Wd, 1 O 2008, ad Lod wo:

&g; jus a y sasfd usom ha hops Mosof's mba of
&g; ualzaon soon sas mong o .  I kp sng no nd of h
&g; usfulnss fo doy ualzaon.
TonyUser is Offline

Posts:50

10/01/2008 5:34 PM  
Ooh, I lk ha. J



dd o ha h assgnmn of a human own Ώ] o h goup (.g. usng h
managdBy lnkd abu) and you ha somon auhoa o f o
whn makng hangs, pfomng pod lanups, .



Tony

Ώ] lhough I pf o us h wod 'guadan' h, gn ha
own/ona/manag alady ha manng whn an onx.



Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of an Holm
Sn: Thusday, 2 Oob 2008 7:43 a.m.
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas



Y anoh ason o poson goup managmn. If you goup managmn
poss nluds a ansaon log (of adds & mos, .g.), 's al
o 'buld' a goup. dd o ha a fld of "why h hang was mad" and
you omplan am sas o sml!



Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Gllnm, Gudo
Sn: Tusday, Spmb 30, 2008 8:32 PM
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas



Of ous h s a dffn n wh h goup mmbshp s plad
o - h mmb abu of boh GGs and LGs s jus plad bwn
y C of h sam doman, whl h sam abu of UGs s plad
o y GC n h fos.



Bu an you laboa how you app wand o alua h LG mmbshp of
a us? If ally would nd o fgu ou whh LG's a us blongd
o fos wd, hn ys, would ha o quy a C of y doman n h
fos o fnd ou hos mmbshps - bu nsad of quyng all goups,
ould jus quy h mmbof abu of h us a h GC po on a
GC hosng h sp doman paons.



Bu laly, baus of h fa ha LG mmbshps of uss (and nsd
goups) fom mo domans a no sod n h "hom" doman of h us
(o nsd goup), hy also ha spal hallngs dung obj oy.
So f you ak obj oy sous, you may wan o dump a las you
LG goups podally fom y doman so ha you' ppad o o
h mmbshps n as you nd o - dally nally. Ths would b
lk ang a "unsal aalog" fo LGs.



Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of En Hall
Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 4:11 M
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: R: [] Goup Bs Pas



Th on hng ha I ally don' lk abou doman loal goups s ha
s y had o quy mmbshp aoss domans.



W w dlopng an applaon ha was gong o us doman loal goups
o su a paula funon n h app. Th dlops wn' oo
happy o ha ha h would ha o quy all goups n od o s f a
us s a mmb of a doman loal goup.



oman loal goups mak h pong and audng had o do.



En


danholmeUser is Offline

Posts:128

10/01/2008 6:54 PM  
Yah... h's an llusaon of hs (y smpl, bu llusa)
n h Wndows dmnsaon Rsou K.



us (non-hnal o hnal) opns a ool (an HT n hs as)
ha lss all goups wh whh h us s assoad as ManagdBy
(dly o baus h us s n a goup ha s h ManagdBy
abu).

Th us an add/mo uss, bu no dly.

od s addd o an ss daabas (h's an nmday sp o
alda h us's dny o aod spoofng)

shduld ask (should b a s n a hay poduon nonmn)
aks h qus fom h ss daabas and maks h hang o
usng h ask/s's lad dnals

Th daabas hn boms h auhoa log of wha happnd whn
and by whom.



HTH



an



Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Tony Muay
Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 11:30 M
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas



Ooh, I lk ha. J



dd o ha h assgnmn of a human own Ώ] o h goup (.g. usng
h managdBy lnkd abu) and you ha somon auhoa o
f o whn makng hangs, pfomng pod lanups, .



Tony

Ώ] lhough I pf o us h wod 'guadan' h, gn ha
own/ona/manag alady ha manng whn an onx.



Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of an Holm
Sn: Thusday, 2 Oob 2008 7:43 a.m.
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas



Y anoh ason o poson goup managmn. If you goup
managmn poss nluds a ansaon log (of adds & mos, .g.),
's al o 'buld' a goup. dd o ha a fld of "why h
hang was mad" and you omplan am sas o sml!



Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Gllnm,
Gudo
Sn: Tusday, Spmb 30, 2008 8:32 PM
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas



Of ous h s a dffn n wh h goup mmbshp s
plad o - h mmb abu of boh GGs and LGs s jus
plad bwn y C of h sam doman, whl h sam abu
of UGs s plad o y GC n h fos.



Bu an you laboa how you app wand o alua h LG mmbshp
of a us? If ally would nd o fgu ou whh LG's a us
blongd o fos wd, hn ys, would ha o quy a C of y
doman n h fos o fnd ou hos mmbshps - bu nsad of
quyng all goups, ould jus quy h mmbof abu of h
us a h GC po on a GC hosng h sp doman paons.



Bu laly, baus of h fa ha LG mmbshps of uss (and
nsd goups) fom mo domans a no sod n h "hom" doman
of h us (o nsd goup), hy also ha spal hallngs dung
obj oy. So f you ak obj oy sous, you may wan o
dump a las you LG goups podally fom y doman so ha
you' ppad o o h mmbshps n as you nd o -
dally nally. Ths would b lk ang a "unsal aalog" fo
LGs...



Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of En Hall
Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 4:11 M
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: R: [] Goup Bs Pas



Th on hng ha I ally don' lk abou doman loal goups s ha
s y had o quy mmbshp aoss domans.



W w dlopng an applaon ha was gong o us doman loal
goups o su a paula funon n h app. Th dlops
wn' oo happy o ha ha h would ha o quy all goups n
od o s f a us s a mmb of a doman loal goup.



oman loal goups mak h pong and audng had o do.



En


joeUser is Offline

Posts:77

10/01/2008 11:45 PM  
Nw nsmn n M? Cazy alk!

Jo K.

----- Ognal Mssag -----
Fom: "L Flgh" &l;lf@ls.a.uk&g;
To: &l;@mal.ad.og&g;
Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 8:57 M
Subj: R: [] Goup Bs Pas



I hnk h momn, f h was on, has passd. I all a dalog
I had wh h ognal MSFT PM fo M wh I fload h usfulnss
of ual dos (and LP poxy, shma anslaon and so
abu alasng .) and qud whh hs ould b a dlopmn
of M - Radan and MaxWa w h xampls I ga.
I go h mpsson a h m ha ual
doy was no pa of Mosof's son fo h nps and, o b
fa, f you ad aound n h doy blogosph h sm o b
ohs ha a smlaly opposd ofn wh an agumn fom (unxposd)
madoy/posonng sysm bng h ky o doy gnaon.
Sn hn SP ha aqud MaxWa and Oal ha bom a play
(hough OSng aquson).

I had hopd o s mo dlopmn of M fom Msof n h aas
abo and (phaps mo fanfully) wh a nod o hs had as a
dlopng unsal aalog fo S dploymns. M as a KC
ha was anoh...

FWIW I ag on h usfulnss of ual dos, LP poxy .
and n h un lma mgs/aqusons/ngaon pojs a
lkly o b oupyng mnds and budgs fo som busnsss.

L Flgh


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JacksonShawUser is Offline

Posts:4

10/01/2008 11:53 PM  
Cazy alk ndd. How abou a managmn nfa o sa wh...(apologs o all h folks who ha a Ph n LP and bl ha s all *hy* nd and wha abou h s of us non-ok sns yps?)

Who was h ognal MSFT PM (podu manag) fo M? H pnd h las of a podu ha ddn' n ha suy bul n and you wan ual apabls o a managmn nfa?

Cazy alk ndd.

L's no fog ha M s wh a bunh of goo yankd ou of . If an' n , an' gong o b n M.

So h al quson s: Whn wll b o suppo o look lk a V?

(h h, h sad V!)

-----Ognal Mssag-----
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Jo Kaplan
Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 11:42 PM
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: R: [] Goup Bs Pas

Nw nsmn n M? Cazy alk!

Jo K.

----- Ognal Mssag -----
Fom: "L Flgh" &l;lf@ls.a.uk&g;
To: &l;@mal.ad.og&g;
Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 8:57 M
Subj: R: [] Goup Bs Pas



I hnk h momn, f h was on, has passd. I all a dalog
I had wh h ognal MSFT PM fo M wh I fload h usfulnss
of ual dos (and LP poxy, shma anslaon and so
abu alasng .) and qud whh hs ould b a dlopmn
of M - Radan and MaxWa w h xampls I ga.
I go h mpsson a h m ha ual
doy was no pa of Mosof's son fo h nps and, o b
fa, f you ad aound n h doy blogosph h sm o b
ohs ha a smlaly opposd ofn wh an agumn fom (unxposd)
madoy/posonng sysm bng h ky o doy gnaon.
Sn hn SP ha aqud MaxWa and Oal ha bom a play
(hough OSng aquson).

I had hopd o s mo dlopmn of M fom Msof n h aas
abo and (phaps mo fanfully) wh a nod o hs had as a
dlopng unsal aalog fo S dploymns. M as a KC
ha was anoh...

FWIW I ag on h usfulnss of ual dos, LP poxy .
and n h un lma mgs/aqusons/ngaon pojs a
lkly o b oupyng mnds and budgs fo som busnsss.

L Flgh


Ls nfo : hp://www.ad.og/Ls.aspx
Ls FQ : hp://www.ad.og/LsFQ.aspx
Ls ah: hp://www.ad.og/ma/dfaul.aspx
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dmitrigUser is Offline

Posts:59

10/02/2008 1:53 AM  
H's anoh psp.

M sad as an OOB (ou of band las). Whh mans had a spaa odbas fom (n hough was mosly a opy).
I was py xpns o s -- w ould no us h WnSE og fo h OOB, had o do ousls, whh s a pan. So w wn ahad and mgd and M odbass n Longhon mfam.
Bu ha am wh a alzaon ha w no long an nnoa n M as asly as w ould whn was an OOB -- wh shad odbas, h's shad sponsbly fo no bakng all xsng usoms wh som azy nw nnon.

So, h pndulum s unly swngng h oh way, and (o h bs of my knowldg) goup s lookng a makng M an OOB agan. If nohng ls, ould s as a s bd fo nnoaon.

No all s los.

Now, I am no su wha hy wll b fousng on: V o Ma o wha ls. Bu a las hy a unyng h hands.

m

PS. Managmn nfa (powshll, f you plas) s omng n Wn7, and woks wh boh and M. Odu, agd.

PPS. "d no n ha suy bul n"??? Wha a you alkng abou? d you man ha hs MSFT PM (podu manag) *should* ha pnd h las of a podu ha dd no n ha managmn UI?


-----Ognal Mssag-----
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Jakson Shaw
Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 8:50 PM
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas

Cazy alk ndd. How abou a managmn nfa o sa wh...(apologs o all h folks who ha a Ph n LP and bl ha s all *hy* nd and wha abou h s of us non-ok sns yps?)

Who was h ognal MSFT PM (podu manag) fo M? H pnd h las of a podu ha ddn' n ha suy bul n and you wan ual apabls o a managmn nfa?

Cazy alk ndd.

L's no fog ha M s wh a bunh of goo yankd ou of . If an' n , an' gong o b n M.

So h al quson s: Whn wll b o suppo o look lk a V?

(h h, h sad V!)

-----Ognal Mssag-----
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Jo Kaplan
Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 11:42 PM
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: R: [] Goup Bs Pas

Nw nsmn n M? Cazy alk!

Jo K.

----- Ognal Mssag -----
Fom: "L Flgh" &l;lf@ls.a.uk&g;
To: &l;@mal.ad.og&g;
Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 8:57 M
Subj: R: [] Goup Bs Pas



I hnk h momn, f h was on, has passd. I all a dalog
I had wh h ognal MSFT PM fo M wh I fload h usfulnss
of ual dos (and LP poxy, shma anslaon and so
abu alasng .) and qud whh hs ould b a dlopmn
of M - Radan and MaxWa w h xampls I ga.
I go h mpsson a h m ha ual
doy was no pa of Mosof's son fo h nps and, o b
fa, f you ad aound n h doy blogosph h sm o b
ohs ha a smlaly opposd ofn wh an agumn fom (unxposd)
madoy/posonng sysm bng h ky o doy gnaon.
Sn hn SP ha aqud MaxWa and Oal ha bom a play
(hough OSng aquson).

I had hopd o s mo dlopmn of M fom Msof n h aas
abo and (phaps mo fanfully) wh a nod o hs had as a
dlopng unsal aalog fo S dploymns. M as a KC
ha was anoh...

FWIW I ag on h usfulnss of ual dos, LP poxy .
and n h un lma mgs/aqusons/ngaon pojs a
lkly o b oupyng mnds and budgs fo som busnsss.

L Flgh


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Ls nfo : hp://www.ad.og/Ls.aspx
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Ls ah: hp://www.ad.og/ma/dfaul.aspx

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lefUser is Offline

Posts:21

10/02/2008 4:31 AM  
On Wd, 1 O 2008, Jakson Shaw wo:

&g; Cazy alk ndd. How abou a managmn nfa o sa wh...
&g; (apologs o all h folks who ha a Ph n LP and bl ha s
&g; all *hy* nd and wha abou h s of us non-ok sns yps?)

Lak of a managmn nfa s a long sandng omplan hngs go
a ll b n W2k8 - h Mosof wold has mod on (hnkng
mo of Exhang h han ) owad Powshll w know ha's omng
fo and Qus ha hlpd h ommuny wh ha.

&g; Who was h ognal MSFT PM (podu manag) fo M? H pnd
&g; h las of a podu ha ddn' n ha suy bul n and you
&g; wan ual apabls o a managmn nfa?

No su I follow ha, my ason fo mnonng h ognal PM was h
nsgh h podd no h ual doy posps - I aually
hnk h dd a y good job and h anly knw h podu.

&g; L's no fog ha M s wh a bunh of goo yankd ou of .
&g; If an' n , an' gong o b n M.

I hnk 's mo 70/30 han ha, M was dffn n som sps
- lagly du o dlop nsgh I susp. Th/my hop a ha m
was ha M would lad nnoaon n som of h aas I mnond
bu also n ohs lk RO paons and dlopmn of h plaon
modl bu n ha mus ha lms as has .g. dp SM log -n
fo NOS ha M dos no nd and so anno b a usful s fo
us ass.

&g; So h al quson s: Whn wll b o suppo o look lk a V?

If Mosof ould b psuadd ha us ass xs fo hs hn hy
ha h oppouny o "skp a gnaon" and mplmn hs hough
say a mo flxbl handlng of namng onxs (ossRfs) n som ng
and I would say ha M ould b h hl of ho.

Bu n all h abo, as a usom, how Mosof dlops/nnoas
s no my ssu I jus know whay I would lk o s dld

L Flgh
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AFidelUser is Offline

Posts:71

10/02/2008 9:53 AM  
I ag wh h appoah bu songly dsag wh h mplmnaon,
ss should n b usd fo anyhng sous. Insad us MSE f you
wan o go all MS o us SQL f you wan o sa som ohad.

Thanks,
ndw



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Sn by: -own@mal.ad.og
10/01/2008 06:52 PM
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@mal.ad.og


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&l;@mal.ad.og&g;


Subj
RE: [] Goup Bs Pas






Yah? h?s an llusaon of hs (y smpl, bu llusa) n
h Wndows dmnsaon Rsou K.

us (non-hnal o hnal) opns a ool (an HT n hs as)
ha lss all goups wh whh h us s assoad as ManagdBy
(dly o baus h us s n a goup ha s h ManagdBy
abu).
Th us an add/mo uss, bu no dly.
od s addd o an ss daabas (h?s an nmday sp o
alda h us?s dny o aod spoofng)
shduld ask (should b a s n a hay poduon nonmn)
aks h qus fom h ss daabas and maks h hang o
usng h ask/s?s lad dnals
Th daabas hn boms h auhoa log of wha happnd whn and
by whom.

HTH

an

Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Tony Muay
Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 11:30 M
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas

Ooh, I lk ha. J

dd o ha h assgnmn of a human own Ώ] o h goup (.g. usng
h managdBy lnkd abu) and you ha somon auhoa o
f o whn makng hangs, pfomng pod lanups, .

Tony
Ώ] lhough I pf o us h wod ?guadan? h, gn ha
own/ona/manag alady ha manng whn an onx.

Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of an Holm
Sn: Thusday, 2 Oob 2008 7:43 a.m.
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas

Y anoh ason o poson goup managmn. If you goup
managmn poss nluds a ansaon log (of adds & mos, .g.),
?s al o ?buld? a goup. dd o ha a fld of ?why h hang
was mad? and you omplan am sas o sml!

Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Gllnm,
Gudo
Sn: Tusday, Spmb 30, 2008 8:32 PM
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas

Of ous h s a dffn n wh h goup mmbshp s
plad o ? h mmb abu of boh GGs and LGs s jus
plad bwn y C of h sam doman, whl h sam abu
of UGs s plad o y GC n h fos.

Bu an you laboa how you app wand o alua h LG mmbshp
of a us? If ally would nd o fgu ou whh LG?s a us
blongd o fos wd, hn ys, would ha o quy a C of y
doman n h fos o fnd ou hos mmbshps ? bu nsad of
quyng all goups, ould jus quy h mmbof abu of h
us a h GC po on a GC hosng h sp doman paons.

Bu laly, baus of h fa ha LG mmbshps of uss (and nsd
goups) fom mo domans a no sod n h ?hom? doman of h
us (o nsd goup), hy also ha spal hallngs dung obj
oy. So f you ak obj oy sous, you may wan o dump a
las you LG goups podally fom y doman so ha you?
ppad o o h mmbshps n as you nd o ? dally
nally. Ths would b lk ang a ?unsal aalog? fo LGs?

Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of En Hall
Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 4:11 M
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: R: [] Goup Bs Pas

Th on hng ha I ally don' lk abou doman loal goups s ha
s y had o quy mmbshp aoss domans.

W w dlopng an applaon ha was gong o us doman loal
goups o su a paula funon n h app. Th dlops wn'
oo happy o ha ha h would ha o quy all goups n od o s
f a us s a mmb of a doman loal goup.

oman loal goups mak h pong and audng had o do.

En

lefUser is Offline

Posts:21

10/02/2008 11:37 AM  

To lafy, my usag of PM was man as Pogam Manag (wh whom I
ommunad) no podu manag; I was hnkng of h MSFT
{Pogam Manag - - Ts} ad.

Thanks
L Flgh

&g; On Wd, 1 O 2008, Jakson Shaw wo:
&g;
&g;&g; Who was h ognal MSFT PM (podu manag) fo M? H pnd
Ls nfo : hp://www.ad.og/Ls.aspx
Ls FQ : hp://www.ad.og/LsFQ.aspx
Ls ah: hp://www.ad.og/ma/dfaul.aspx
DonHUser is Offline

Posts:21

10/02/2008 1:13 PM  
Som of us mmb ha guy. sngushd lookng, gay ha. on'
woy, hough, I won' ll.

Communaon bwn d and podu manags a Mosof s sadly
lmd, n pa baus hy sm o spak dffn languags. Podu
manags spak n ms of usoms whl ds spak n ms of
hnologs, and h wo nd o sa blankly pas ah oh whn hy
m. n mpoan (f unspokn) pa of h job of pogam manag s o
a as a anslao bwn h wo. Unfounaly ha ofn lads o
abuon os, wh ds hnk ha samns/posons fom podu
manags aually ognad wh pogam manags, and podu manags
hnk h sam abou nws fom h ds, all of whh las yon
onfusd abou why any paula fau/lmaon s/sn' n h
podu. Som days 's amazng ha h whol am an g ogh long
nough o shp anyhng a all.

on Hahl

-----Ognal Mssag-----
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of L Flgh
Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 8:22 M
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas


To lafy, my usag of PM was man as Pogam Manag (wh whom I
ommunad) no podu manag; I was hnkng of h MSFT
{Pogam Manag - - Ts} ad.

Thanks
L Flgh

&g; On Wd, 1 O 2008, Jakson Shaw wo:
&g;
&g;&g; Who was h ognal MSFT PM (podu manag) fo M? H pnd
Ls nfo : hp://www.ad.og/Ls.aspx
Ls FQ : hp://www.ad.og/LsFQ.aspx
Ls ah: hp://www.ad.og/ma/dfaul.aspx

Ls nfo : hp://www.ad.og/Ls.aspx
Ls FQ : hp://www.ad.og/LsFQ.aspx
Ls ah: hp://www.ad.og/ma/dfaul.aspx
Ravi.Sabharanjak@barclaysglobal.comUser is Offline

Posts:68

10/02/2008 1:31 PM  
Ths xplans why 's had o g any faus addd o Mosof
podus, n hough hs faus would aually nhan h alu of
h podu. Has anyon fgud ou wha h bs way o g h npu
ommunad o h podu ams s?

I' d h CR ou, wh no suss. In on as I' had a CR
apd n hoy, how no mplmnd baus f was oo la o
las fo s 2003 as s 2008 was abou o b lasd n 6
monhs, and oo la o nlud h fau n s 2008 as was
nang las! Fo a mo n as, h am who wd h CR
hld h WR mng whou psnaon fom h my TM o h
as own - no y fa o m.

-Ra

-----Ognal Mssag-----
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of on Hahl
Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 10:11 M
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas

Som of us mmb ha guy. sngushd lookng, gay ha. on'
woy, hough, I won' ll.

Communaon bwn d and podu manags a Mosof s sadly
lmd, n pa baus hy sm o spak dffn languags.
Podu
manags spak n ms of usoms whl ds spak n ms of
hnologs, and h wo nd o sa blankly pas ah oh whn
hy
m. n mpoan (f unspokn) pa of h job of pogam manag s
o
a as a anslao bwn h wo. Unfounaly ha ofn lads o
abuon os, wh ds hnk ha samns/posons fom
podu
manags aually ognad wh pogam manags, and podu manags
hnk h sam abou nws fom h ds, all of whh las yon
onfusd abou why any paula fau/lmaon s/sn' n h
podu. Som days 's amazng ha h whol am an g ogh
long
nough o shp anyhng a all.

on Hahl

-----Ognal Mssag-----
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of L Flgh
Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 8:22 M
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas


To lafy, my usag of PM was man as Pogam Manag (wh whom I
ommunad) no podu manag; I was hnkng of h MSFT
{Pogam Manag - - Ts} ad.

Thanks
L Flgh

&g; On Wd, 1 O 2008, Jakson Shaw wo:
&g;
&g;&g; Who was h ognal MSFT PM (podu manag) fo M? H pnd
Ls nfo : hp://www.ad.og/Ls.aspx
Ls FQ : hp://www.ad.og/LsFQ.aspx
Ls ah: hp://www.ad.og/ma/dfaul.aspx

Ls nfo : hp://www.ad.og/Ls.aspx
Ls FQ : hp://www.ad.og/LsFQ.aspx
Ls ah: hp://www.ad.og/ma/dfaul.aspx

--

Ths mssag and any aahmns a onfdnal, popay, and may b plgd. If hs mssag was msdd, Balays Global Insos (BGI) dos no wa any onfdnaly o plg. If you a no h nndd pn, plas nofy us mmdaly and dsoy h mssag whou dslosng s onns o anyon. ny dsbuon, us o opyng of hs -mal o h nfomaon onans by oh han an nndd pn s unauhozd. Th ws and opnons xpssd n hs -mal mssag a h auho's own and may no fl h ws and opnons of BGI, unlss h auho s auhozd by BGI o xpss suh ws o opnons on s bhalf. ll mal sn o o fom hs addss s subj o lon soag and w by BGI. lhough BGI opas an-us pogams, dos no ap sponsbly fo any damag whaso ausd by uss bng passd.
Ls nfo : hp://www.ad.og/Ls.aspx
Ls FQ : hp://www.ad.og/LsFQ.aspx
Ls ah: hp://www.ad.og/ma/dfaul.aspx
alainlissoirUser is Offline

Posts:3

10/02/2008 2:32 PM  
On way s dsb you houghs and das n hs foum

Of ous, mo han smply hang a b und on o off by dfaul h n
h, wha I'm mosly nsd o ha s why you xpss h ds of a
fau.
Fo whh snao and usag onx? Tha's y mpoan!

Rgads,
/lan



-----Ognal Mssag-----
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Sabhaanjak, Ra
BGI SF
Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 10:22 M
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas

Ths xplans why 's had o g any faus addd o Mosof
podus, n hough hs faus would aually nhan h alu of
h podu. Has anyon fgud ou wha h bs way o g h npu
ommunad o h podu ams s?

I' d h CR ou, wh no suss. In on as I' had a CR
apd n hoy, how no mplmnd baus f was oo la o
las fo s 2003 as s 2008 was abou o b lasd n 6
monhs, and oo la o nlud h fau n s 2008 as was
nang las! Fo a mo n as, h am who wd h CR
hld h WR mng whou psnaon fom h my TM o h
as own - no y fa o m.

-Ra

-----Ognal Mssag-----
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of on Hahl
Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 10:11 M
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas

Som of us mmb ha guy. sngushd lookng, gay ha. on'
woy, hough, I won' ll.

Communaon bwn d and podu manags a Mosof s sadly
lmd, n pa baus hy sm o spak dffn languags.
Podu
manags spak n ms of usoms whl ds spak n ms of
hnologs, and h wo nd o sa blankly pas ah oh whn
hy
m. n mpoan (f unspokn) pa of h job of pogam manag s
o
a as a anslao bwn h wo. Unfounaly ha ofn lads o
abuon os, wh ds hnk ha samns/posons fom
podu
manags aually ognad wh pogam manags, and podu manags
hnk h sam abou nws fom h ds, all of whh las yon
onfusd abou why any paula fau/lmaon s/sn' n h
podu. Som days 's amazng ha h whol am an g ogh
long
nough o shp anyhng a all.

on Hahl

-----Ognal Mssag-----
Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of L Flgh
Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 8:22 M
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas


To lafy, my usag of PM was man as Pogam Manag (wh whom I
ommunad) no podu manag; I was hnkng of h MSFT
{Pogam Manag - - Ts} ad.

Thanks
L Flgh

&g; On Wd, 1 O 2008, Jakson Shaw wo:
&g;
&g;&g; Who was h ognal MSFT PM (podu manag) fo M? H pnd
Ls nfo : hp://www.ad.og/Ls.aspx
Ls FQ : hp://www.ad.og/LsFQ.aspx
Ls ah: hp://www.ad.og/ma/dfaul.aspx

Ls nfo : hp://www.ad.og/Ls.aspx
Ls FQ : hp://www.ad.og/LsFQ.aspx
Ls ah: hp://www.ad.og/ma/dfaul.aspx

--

Ths mssag and any aahmns a onfdnal, popay, and may b
plgd. If hs mssag was msdd, Balays Global Insos
(BGI) dos no wa any onfdnaly o plg. If you a no h
nndd pn, plas nofy us mmdaly and dsoy h mssag
whou dslosng s onns o anyon. ny dsbuon, us o opyng
of hs -mal o h nfomaon onans by oh han an nndd
pn s unauhozd. Th ws and opnons xpssd n hs -mal
mssag a h auho's own and may no fl h ws and opnons of
BGI, unlss h auho s auhozd by BGI o xpss suh ws o
opnons on s bhalf. ll mal sn o o fom hs addss s subj
o lon soag and w by BGI. lhough BGI opas an-us
pogams, dos no ap sponsbly fo any damag whaso ausd
by uss bng passd.
Ls nfo : hp://www.ad.og/Ls.aspx
Ls FQ : hp://www.ad.og/LsFQ.aspx
Ls ah: hp://www.ad.og/ma/dfaul.aspx

Ls nfo : hp://www.ad.og/Ls.aspx
Ls FQ : hp://www.ad.og/LsFQ.aspx
Ls ah: hp://www.ad.og/ma/dfaul.aspx
danholmeUser is Offline

Posts:128

10/02/2008 4:48 PM  
bsoluly agd. Tha's why 's a *sampl*. In h wng of h
book, w ndd o mnmz qumns so popl ould lan h
naon of h omponns and dmn wha woks bs fo hm.
Obously my 'poduon' posonng podus us SQL. Good pon.



Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Fdl@dd.om
Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 3:50 M
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas




I ag wh h appoah bu songly dsag wh h mplmnaon,
ss should n b usd fo anyhng sous. Insad us MSE f
you wan o go all MS o us SQL f you wan o sa som ohad.

Thanks,
ndw



"an Holm" &l;dan.holm@nllm.om&g;
Sn by: -own@mal.ad.og

10/01/2008 06:52 PM

Plas spond o
@mal.ad.og

To

&l;@mal.ad.og&g;




Subj

RE: [] Goup Bs Pas








Yah... h's an llusaon of hs (y smpl, bu llusa)
n h Wndows dmnsaon Rsou K.

us (non-hnal o hnal) opns a ool (an HT n hs as)
ha lss all goups wh whh h us s assoad as ManagdBy
(dly o baus h us s n a goup ha s h ManagdBy
abu).
Th us an add/mo uss, bu no dly.
od s addd o an ss daabas (h's an nmday sp o
alda h us's dny o aod spoofng)
shduld ask (should b a s n a hay poduon nonmn)
aks h qus fom h ss daabas and maks h hang o
usng h ask/s's lad dnals
Th daabas hn boms h auhoa log of wha happnd whn
and by whom.

HTH

an

Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Tony Muay
Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 11:30 M
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas

Ooh, I lk ha. J

dd o ha h assgnmn of a human own Ώ] o h goup (.g. usng
h managdBy lnkd abu) and you ha somon auhoa o
f o whn makng hangs, pfomng pod lanups, .

Tony
Ώ] lhough I pf o us h wod 'guadan' h, gn ha
own/ona/manag alady ha manng whn an onx.

Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of an Holm
Sn: Thusday, 2 Oob 2008 7:43 a.m.
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas

Y anoh ason o poson goup managmn. If you goup
managmn poss nluds a ansaon log (of adds & mos, .g.),
's al o 'buld' a goup. dd o ha a fld of "why h
hang was mad" and you omplan am sas o sml!

Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Gllnm,
Gudo
Sn: Tusday, Spmb 30, 2008 8:32 PM
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas

Of ous h s a dffn n wh h goup mmbshp s
plad o - h mmb abu of boh GGs and LGs s jus
plad bwn y C of h sam doman, whl h sam abu
of UGs s plad o y GC n h fos.

Bu an you laboa how you app wand o alua h LG mmbshp
of a us? If ally would nd o fgu ou whh LG's a us
blongd o fos wd, hn ys, would ha o quy a C of y
doman n h fos o fnd ou hos mmbshps - bu nsad of
quyng all goups, ould jus quy h mmbof abu of h
us a h GC po on a GC hosng h sp doman paons.

Bu laly, baus of h fa ha LG mmbshps of uss (and
nsd goups) fom mo domans a no sod n h "hom" doman
of h us (o nsd goup), hy also ha spal hallngs dung
obj oy. So f you ak obj oy sous, you may wan o
dump a las you LG goups podally fom y doman so ha
you' ppad o o h mmbshps n as you nd o -
dally nally. Ths would b lk ang a "unsal aalog" fo
LGs...

Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of En Hall
Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 4:11 M
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: R: [] Goup Bs Pas

Th on hng ha I ally don' lk abou doman loal goups s ha
s y had o quy mmbshp aoss domans.

W w dlopng an applaon ha was gong o us doman loal
goups o su a paula funon n h app. Th dlops
wn' oo happy o ha ha h would ha o quy all goups n
od o s f a us s a mmb of a doman loal goup.

oman loal goups mak h pong and audng had o do.

En


michael1User is Offline

Posts:181

10/02/2008 5:05 PM  
I goa ask - and hs s a al quson, baus I sll s so MNY
sampls usng ss - sn MSE 2000 was lasd, and hn SQL 2005
Expss and SQL 2008 Expss - n wha way s ss a b sampl
daabas han SQL?



I oss mo. Th UI a las, uss mo mmoy. I ould go on..



(I s also MUCH mo panful o w od fo..h SQL ommand pas n
ss s jus lam.)



Rgads,



Mhal B. Smh, MCITP:S,EM/MCSE/Exhang MVP

My blog: hp://ThEssnalExhang.om/blogs/mhal

Lnk wh m a: hp://www.lnkdn.om/n/hssnalxhang



Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of an Holm
Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 4:44 PM
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas



bsoluly agd. Tha's why 's a *sampl*. In h wng of h book,
w ndd o mnmz qumns so popl ould lan h naon of
h omponns and dmn wha woks bs fo hm. Obously my
'poduon' posonng podus us SQL. Good pon.



Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Fdl@dd.om
Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 3:50 M
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas




I ag wh h appoah bu songly dsag wh h mplmnaon,
ss should n b usd fo anyhng sous. Insad us MSE f you
wan o go all MS o us SQL f you wan o sa som ohad.

Thanks,
ndw


"an Holm" &l;dan.holm@nllm.om&g;
Sn by: -own@mal.ad.og

10/01/2008 06:52 PM


Plas spond o
@mal.ad.og


To

&l;@mal.ad.og&g;






Subj

RE: [] Goup Bs Pas








Yah. h's an llusaon of hs (y smpl, bu llusa) n h
Wndows dmnsaon Rsou K.

us (non-hnal o hnal) opns a ool (an HT n hs as) ha
lss all goups wh whh h us s assoad as ManagdBy (dly o
baus h us s n a goup ha s h ManagdBy abu).
Th us an add/mo uss, bu no dly.
od s addd o an ss daabas (h's an nmday sp o
alda h us's dny o aod spoofng)
shduld ask (should b a s n a hay poduon nonmn)
aks h qus fom h ss daabas and maks h hang o usng
h ask/s's lad dnals
Th daabas hn boms h auhoa log of wha happnd whn and by
whom.

HTH

an

Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Tony Muay
Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 11:30 M
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas

Ooh, I lk ha. J

dd o ha h assgnmn of a human own Ώ] o h goup (.g. usng h
managdBy lnkd abu) and you ha somon auhoa o f o
whn makng hangs, pfomng pod lanups, .

Tony
Ώ] lhough I pf o us h wod 'guadan' h, gn ha
own/ona/manag alady ha manng whn an onx.

Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of an Holm
Sn: Thusday, 2 Oob 2008 7:43 a.m.
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas

Y anoh ason o poson goup managmn. If you goup managmn
poss nluds a ansaon log (of adds & mos, .g.), 's al
o 'buld' a goup. dd o ha a fld of "why h hang was mad" and
you omplan am sas o sml!

Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Gllnm, Gudo
Sn: Tusday, Spmb 30, 2008 8:32 PM
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas

Of ous h s a dffn n wh h goup mmbshp s plad
o - h mmb abu of boh GGs and LGs s jus plad bwn
y C of h sam doman, whl h sam abu of UGs s plad
o y GC n h fos.

Bu an you laboa how you app wand o alua h LG mmbshp of
a us? If ally would nd o fgu ou whh LG's a us blongd
o fos wd, hn ys, would ha o quy a C of y doman n h
fos o fnd ou hos mmbshps - bu nsad of quyng all goups,
ould jus quy h mmbof abu of h us a h GC po on a
GC hosng h sp doman paons.

Bu laly, baus of h fa ha LG mmbshps of uss (and nsd
goups) fom mo domans a no sod n h "hom" doman of h us
(o nsd goup), hy also ha spal hallngs dung obj oy.
So f you ak obj oy sous, you may wan o dump a las you
LG goups podally fom y doman so ha you' ppad o o
h mmbshps n as you nd o - dally nally. Ths would b
lk ang a "unsal aalog" fo LGs.

Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of En Hall
Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 4:11 M
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: R: [] Goup Bs Pas

Th on hng ha I ally don' lk abou doman loal goups s ha
s y had o quy mmbshp aoss domans.

W w dlopng an applaon ha was gong o us doman loal goups
o su a paula funon n h app. Th dlops wn' oo
happy o ha ha h would ha o quy all goups n od o s f a
us s a mmb of a doman loal goup.

oman loal goups mak h pong and audng had o do.

En


gabriel/tfiUser is Offline

Posts:145

10/02/2008 5:58 PM  
N quson. I hnk ’s jus “hsoal hag” and ha…. n a
say an us ss! LOL! J

Gabl.



Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Mhal B. Smh
Sn: godì 2 oob 2008 23.01
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas



I goa ask – and hs s a al quson, baus I sll s so MNY
sampls usng ss – sn MSE 2000 was lasd, and hn SQL 2005
Expss and SQL 2008 Expss – n wha way s ss a b sampl
daabas han SQL?



I oss mo. Th UI a las, uss mo mmoy. I ould go on….



(I s also MUCH mo panful o w od fo….h SQL ommand pas n
ss s jus lam.)



Rgads,



Mhal B. Smh, MCITP:S,EM/MCSE/Exhang MVP

My blog: hp://ThEssnalExhang.om/blogs/mhal

Lnk wh m a: hp://www.lnkdn.om/n/hssnalxhang



Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of an Holm
Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 4:44 PM
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas



bsoluly agd. Tha’s why ’s a *sampl*. In h wng of h book,
w ndd o mnmz qumns so popl ould lan h naon of
h omponns and dmn wha woks bs fo hm. Obously my
‘poduon’ posonng podus us SQL. Good pon.



Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Fdl@dd.om
Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 3:50 M
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas




I ag wh h appoah bu songly dsag wh h mplmnaon,
ss should n b usd fo anyhng sous. Insad us MSE f you
wan o go all MS o us SQL f you wan o sa som ohad.

Thanks,
ndw


"an Holm" &l;dan.holm@nllm.om&g;
Sn by: -own@mal.ad.og

10/01/2008 06:52 PM


Plas spond o
@mal.ad.og


To

&l;@mal.ad.og&g;






Subj

RE: [] Goup Bs Pas








Yah… h’s an llusaon of hs (y smpl, bu llusa) n h
Wndows dmnsaon Rsou K.

us (non-hnal o hnal) opns a ool (an HT n hs as) ha
lss all goups wh whh h us s assoad as ManagdBy (dly o
baus h us s n a goup ha s h ManagdBy abu).
Th us an add/mo uss, bu no dly.
od s addd o an ss daabas (h’s an nmday sp o
alda h us’s dny o aod spoofng)
shduld ask (should b a s n a hay poduon nonmn)
aks h qus fom h ss daabas and maks h hang o usng
h ask/s’s lad dnals
Th daabas hn boms h auhoa log of wha happnd whn and by
whom.

HTH

an

Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Tony Muay
Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 11:30 M
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas

Ooh, I lk ha. J

dd o ha h assgnmn of a human own Ώ] o h goup (.g. usng h
managdBy lnkd abu) and you ha somon auhoa o f o
whn makng hangs, pfomng pod lanups, .

Tony
Ώ] lhough I pf o us h wod ‘guadan’ h, gn ha
own/ona/manag alady ha manng whn an onx.

Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of an Holm
Sn: Thusday, 2 Oob 2008 7:43 a.m.
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas

Y anoh ason o poson goup managmn. If you goup managmn
poss nluds a ansaon log (of adds & mos, .g.), ’s al
o ‘buld’ a goup. dd o ha a fld of “why h hang was mad” and
you omplan am sas o sml!

Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Gllnm, Gudo
Sn: Tusday, Spmb 30, 2008 8:32 PM
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas

Of ous h s a dffn n wh h goup mmbshp s plad
o – h mmb abu of boh GGs and LGs s jus plad bwn
y C of h sam doman, whl h sam abu of UGs s plad
o y GC n h fos.

Bu an you laboa how you app wand o alua h LG mmbshp of
a us? If ally would nd o fgu ou whh LG’s a us blongd
o fos wd, hn ys, would ha o quy a C of y doman n h
fos o fnd ou hos mmbshps – bu nsad of quyng all goups,
ould jus quy h mmbof abu of h us a h GC po on a
GC hosng h sp doman paons.

Bu laly, baus of h fa ha LG mmbshps of uss (and nsd
goups) fom mo domans a no sod n h “hom” doman of h us
(o nsd goup), hy also ha spal hallngs dung obj oy.
So f you ak obj oy sous, you may wan o dump a las you
LG goups podally fom y doman so ha you’ ppad o o
h mmbshps n as you nd o – dally nally. Ths would b
lk ang a “unsal aalog” fo LGs…

Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of En Hall
Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 4:11 M
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: R: [] Goup Bs Pas

Th on hng ha I ally don' lk abou doman loal goups s ha
s y had o quy mmbshp aoss domans.

W w dlopng an applaon ha was gong o us doman loal goups
o su a paula funon n h app. Th dlops wn' oo
happy o ha ha h would ha o quy all goups n od o s f a
us s a mmb of a doman loal goup.

oman loal goups mak h pong and audng had o do.

En


bdesmondUser is Offline

Posts:358

10/02/2008 6:22 PM  
You don' nd o nsall ass o us an MB n an app. X64 s a b mo swy bu ha asd...

I lk usng SqlL o SQL S Compa- hosd nsd h app so you don' ha o nsall anyhng. Knd of lk JET

Thanks,
Ban smond
ban@bandsmond.om

- 312.731.3132

Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Mhal B. Smh
Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 4:01 PM
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas

I goa ask - and hs s a al quson, baus I sll s so MNY sampls usng ss - sn MSE 2000 was lasd, and hn SQL 2005 Expss and SQL 2008 Expss - n wha way s ss a b sampl daabas han SQL?

I oss mo. Th UI a las, uss mo mmoy. I ould go on....

(I s also MUCH mo panful o w od fo....h SQL ommand pas n ss s jus lam.)

Rgads,

Mhal B. Smh, MCITP:S,EM/MCSE/Exhang MVP
My blog: hp://ThEssnalExhang.om/blogs/mhal
Lnk wh m a: hp://www.lnkdn.om/n/hssnalxhang

Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of an Holm
Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 4:44 PM
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas

bsoluly agd. Tha's why 's a *sampl*. In h wng of h book, w ndd o mnmz qumns so popl ould lan h naon of h omponns and dmn wha woks bs fo hm. Obously my 'poduon' posonng podus us SQL. Good pon.

Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Fdl@dd.om
Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 3:50 M
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas


I ag wh h appoah bu songly dsag wh h mplmnaon, ss should n b usd fo anyhng sous. Insad us MSE f you wan o go all MS o us SQL f you wan o sa som ohad.

Thanks,
ndw
"an Holm" &l;dan.holm@nllm.om&g;
Sn by: -own@mal.ad.og

10/01/2008 06:52 PM
Plas spond o
@mal.ad.og


To

&l;@mal.ad.og&g;



Subj

RE: [] Goup Bs Pas







Yah... h's an llusaon of hs (y smpl, bu llusa) n h Wndows dmnsaon Rsou K.

us (non-hnal o hnal) opns a ool (an HT n hs as) ha lss all goups wh whh h us s assoad as ManagdBy (dly o baus h us s n a goup ha s h ManagdBy abu).
Th us an add/mo uss, bu no dly.
od s addd o an ss daabas (h's an nmday sp o alda h us's dny o aod spoofng)
shduld ask (should b a s n a hay poduon nonmn) aks h qus fom h ss daabas and maks h hang o usng h ask/s's lad dnals
Th daabas hn boms h auhoa log of wha happnd whn and by whom.

HTH

an

Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Tony Muay
Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 11:30 M
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas

Ooh, I lk ha.

dd o ha h assgnmn of a human own Ώ] o h goup (.g. usng h managdBy lnkd abu) and you ha somon auhoa o f o whn makng hangs, pfomng pod lanups, .

Tony
Ώ] lhough I pf o us h wod 'guadan' h, gn ha own/ona/manag alady ha manng whn an onx.

Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of an Holm
Sn: Thusday, 2 Oob 2008 7:43 a.m.
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas

Y anoh ason o poson goup managmn. If you goup managmn poss nluds a ansaon log (of adds & mos, .g.), 's al o 'buld' a goup. dd o ha a fld of "why h hang was mad" and you omplan am sas o sml!

Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Gllnm, Gudo
Sn: Tusday, Spmb 30, 2008 8:32 PM
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas

Of ous h s a dffn n wh h goup mmbshp s plad o - h mmb abu of boh GGs and LGs s jus plad bwn y C of h sam doman, whl h sam abu of UGs s plad o y GC n h fos.

Bu an you laboa how you app wand o alua h LG mmbshp of a us? If ally would nd o fgu ou whh LG's a us blongd o fos wd, hn ys, would ha o quy a C of y doman n h fos o fnd ou hos mmbshps - bu nsad of quyng all goups, ould jus quy h mmbof abu of h us a h GC po on a GC hosng h sp doman paons.

Bu laly, baus of h fa ha LG mmbshps of uss (and nsd goups) fom mo domans a no sod n h "hom" doman of h us (o nsd goup), hy also ha spal hallngs dung obj oy. So f you ak obj oy sous, you may wan o dump a las you LG goups podally fom y doman so ha you' ppad o o h mmbshps n as you nd o - dally nally. Ths would b lk ang a "unsal aalog" fo LGs...

Fom: -own@mal.ad.og [malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of En Hall
Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 4:11 M
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: R: [] Goup Bs Pas

Th on hng ha I ally don' lk abou doman loal goups s ha s y had o quy mmbshp aoss domans.

W w dlopng an applaon ha was gong o us doman loal goups o su a paula funon n h app. Th dlops wn' oo happy o ha ha h would ha o quy all goups n od o s f a us s a mmb of a doman loal goup.

oman loal goups mak h pong and audng had o do.

En

michael1User is Offline

Posts:181

10/02/2008 7:42 PM  
hhh..I ddn' know ha. Thanks.



Rgads,



Mhal B. Smh, MCITP:S,EM/MCSE/Exhang MVP

My blog: hp://ThEssnalExhang.om/blogs/mhal

Lnk wh m a: hp://www.lnkdn.om/n/hssnalxhang



Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Ban smond
Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 6:18 PM
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas



You don' nd o nsall ass o us an MB n an app. X64 s a b mo
swy bu ha asd.



I lk usng SqlL o SQL S Compa- hosd nsd h app so you
don' ha o nsall anyhng. Knd of lk JET



Thanks,

Ban smond

ban@bandsmond.om



- 312.731.3132



Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Mhal B. Smh
Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 4:01 PM
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas



I goa ask - and hs s a al quson, baus I sll s so MNY
sampls usng ss - sn MSE 2000 was lasd, and hn SQL 2005
Expss and SQL 2008 Expss - n wha way s ss a b sampl
daabas han SQL?



I oss mo. Th UI a las, uss mo mmoy. I ould go on..



(I s also MUCH mo panful o w od fo..h SQL ommand pas n
ss s jus lam.)



Rgads,



Mhal B. Smh, MCITP:S,EM/MCSE/Exhang MVP

My blog: hp://ThEssnalExhang.om/blogs/mhal

Lnk wh m a: hp://www.lnkdn.om/n/hssnalxhang



Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of an Holm
Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 4:44 PM
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas



bsoluly agd. Tha's why 's a *sampl*. In h wng of h book,
w ndd o mnmz qumns so popl ould lan h naon of
h omponns and dmn wha woks bs fo hm. Obously my
'poduon' posonng podus us SQL. Good pon.



Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Fdl@dd.om
Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 3:50 M
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas




I ag wh h appoah bu songly dsag wh h mplmnaon,
ss should n b usd fo anyhng sous. Insad us MSE f you
wan o go all MS o us SQL f you wan o sa som ohad.

Thanks,
ndw


"an Holm" &l;dan.holm@nllm.om&g;
Sn by: -own@mal.ad.og

10/01/2008 06:52 PM


Plas spond o
@mal.ad.og


To

&l;@mal.ad.og&g;






Subj

RE: [] Goup Bs Pas








Yah. h's an llusaon of hs (y smpl, bu llusa) n h
Wndows dmnsaon Rsou K.

us (non-hnal o hnal) opns a ool (an HT n hs as) ha
lss all goups wh whh h us s assoad as ManagdBy (dly o
baus h us s n a goup ha s h ManagdBy abu).
Th us an add/mo uss, bu no dly.
od s addd o an ss daabas (h's an nmday sp o
alda h us's dny o aod spoofng)
shduld ask (should b a s n a hay poduon nonmn)
aks h qus fom h ss daabas and maks h hang o usng
h ask/s's lad dnals
Th daabas hn boms h auhoa log of wha happnd whn and by
whom.

HTH

an

Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Tony Muay
Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 11:30 M
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas

Ooh, I lk ha. J

dd o ha h assgnmn of a human own Ώ] o h goup (.g. usng h
managdBy lnkd abu) and you ha somon auhoa o f o
whn makng hangs, pfomng pod lanups, .

Tony
Ώ] lhough I pf o us h wod 'guadan' h, gn ha
own/ona/manag alady ha manng whn an onx.

Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of an Holm
Sn: Thusday, 2 Oob 2008 7:43 a.m.
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas

Y anoh ason o poson goup managmn. If you goup managmn
poss nluds a ansaon log (of adds & mos, .g.), 's al
o 'buld' a goup. dd o ha a fld of "why h hang was mad" and
you omplan am sas o sml!

Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Gllnm, Gudo
Sn: Tusday, Spmb 30, 2008 8:32 PM
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas

Of ous h s a dffn n wh h goup mmbshp s plad
o - h mmb abu of boh GGs and LGs s jus plad bwn
y C of h sam doman, whl h sam abu of UGs s plad
o y GC n h fos.

Bu an you laboa how you app wand o alua h LG mmbshp of
a us? If ally would nd o fgu ou whh LG's a us blongd
o fos wd, hn ys, would ha o quy a C of y doman n h
fos o fnd ou hos mmbshps - bu nsad of quyng all goups,
ould jus quy h mmbof abu of h us a h GC po on a
GC hosng h sp doman paons.

Bu laly, baus of h fa ha LG mmbshps of uss (and nsd
goups) fom mo domans a no sod n h "hom" doman of h us
(o nsd goup), hy also ha spal hallngs dung obj oy.
So f you ak obj oy sous, you may wan o dump a las you
LG goups podally fom y doman so ha you' ppad o o
h mmbshps n as you nd o - dally nally. Ths would b
lk ang a "unsal aalog" fo LGs.

Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of En Hall
Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 4:11 M
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: R: [] Goup Bs Pas

Th on hng ha I ally don' lk abou doman loal goups s ha
s y had o quy mmbshp aoss domans.

W w dlopng an applaon ha was gong o us doman loal goups
o su a paula funon n h app. Th dlops wn' oo
happy o ha ha h would ha o quy all goups n od o s f a
us s a mmb of a doman loal goup.

oman loal goups mak h pong and audng had o do.

En


danholmeUser is Offline

Posts:128

10/02/2008 8:22 PM  
Ys... h ss OBC d dos yhng, no ss (h ln).

Usd ass so ha s "say asy" o ad logs J... no ha I
dsag wh you n h slghs... SQL Expss/CE/Sd/... muh mo
obus ousd of a sampl.



Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Mhal B.
Smh
Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 1:38 PM
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas



hhh....I ddn' know ha. Thanks.



Rgads,



Mhal B. Smh, MCITP:S,EM/MCSE/Exhang MVP

My blog: hp://ThEssnalExhang.om/blogs/mhal

Lnk wh m a: hp://www.lnkdn.om/n/hssnalxhang



Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Ban smond
Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 6:18 PM
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas



You don' nd o nsall ass o us an MB n an app. X64 s a b
mo swy bu ha asd...



I lk usng SqlL o SQL S Compa- hosd nsd h app so you
don' ha o nsall anyhng. Knd of lk JET



Thanks,

Ban smond

ban@bandsmond.om



- 312.731.3132



Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Mhal B.
Smh
Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 4:01 PM
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas



I goa ask - and hs s a al quson, baus I sll s so MNY
sampls usng ss - sn MSE 2000 was lasd, and hn SQL 2005
Expss and SQL 2008 Expss - n wha way s ss a b sampl
daabas han SQL?



I oss mo. Th UI a las, uss mo mmoy. I ould go on....



(I s also MUCH mo panful o w od fo....h SQL ommand
pas n ss s jus lam.)



Rgads,



Mhal B. Smh, MCITP:S,EM/MCSE/Exhang MVP

My blog: hp://ThEssnalExhang.om/blogs/mhal

Lnk wh m a: hp://www.lnkdn.om/n/hssnalxhang



Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of an Holm
Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 4:44 PM
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas



bsoluly agd. Tha's why 's a *sampl*. In h wng of h
book, w ndd o mnmz qumns so popl ould lan h
naon of h omponns and dmn wha woks bs fo hm.
Obously my 'poduon' posonng podus us SQL. Good pon.



Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Fdl@dd.om
Sn: Thusday, Oob 02, 2008 3:50 M
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas




I ag wh h appoah bu songly dsag wh h mplmnaon,
ss should n b usd fo anyhng sous. Insad us MSE f
you wan o go all MS o us SQL f you wan o sa som ohad.

Thanks,
ndw

"an Holm" &l;dan.holm@nllm.om&g;
Sn by: -own@mal.ad.og

10/01/2008 06:52 PM

Plas spond o
@mal.ad.og

To

&l;@mal.ad.og&g;




Subj

RE: [] Goup Bs Pas








Yah... h's an llusaon of hs (y smpl, bu llusa)
n h Wndows dmnsaon Rsou K.

us (non-hnal o hnal) opns a ool (an HT n hs as)
ha lss all goups wh whh h us s assoad as ManagdBy
(dly o baus h us s n a goup ha s h ManagdBy
abu).
Th us an add/mo uss, bu no dly.
od s addd o an ss daabas (h's an nmday sp o
alda h us's dny o aod spoofng)
shduld ask (should b a s n a hay poduon nonmn)
aks h qus fom h ss daabas and maks h hang o
usng h ask/s's lad dnals
Th daabas hn boms h auhoa log of wha happnd whn
and by whom.

HTH

an

Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Tony Muay
Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 11:30 M
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas

Ooh, I lk ha. J

dd o ha h assgnmn of a human own Ώ] o h goup (.g. usng
h managdBy lnkd abu) and you ha somon auhoa o
f o whn makng hangs, pfomng pod lanups, .

Tony
Ώ] lhough I pf o us h wod 'guadan' h, gn ha
own/ona/manag alady ha manng whn an onx.

Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of an Holm
Sn: Thusday, 2 Oob 2008 7:43 a.m.
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas

Y anoh ason o poson goup managmn. If you goup
managmn poss nluds a ansaon log (of adds & mos, .g.),
's al o 'buld' a goup. dd o ha a fld of "why h
hang was mad" and you omplan am sas o sml!

Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of Gllnm,
Gudo
Sn: Tusday, Spmb 30, 2008 8:32 PM
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: RE: [] Goup Bs Pas

Of ous h s a dffn n wh h goup mmbshp s
plad o - h mmb abu of boh GGs and LGs s jus
plad bwn y C of h sam doman, whl h sam abu
of UGs s plad o y GC n h fos.

Bu an you laboa how you app wand o alua h LG mmbshp
of a us? If ally would nd o fgu ou whh LG's a us
blongd o fos wd, hn ys, would ha o quy a C of y
doman n h fos o fnd ou hos mmbshps - bu nsad of
quyng all goups, ould jus quy h mmbof abu of h
us a h GC po on a GC hosng h sp doman paons.

Bu laly, baus of h fa ha LG mmbshps of uss (and
nsd goups) fom mo domans a no sod n h "hom" doman
of h us (o nsd goup), hy also ha spal hallngs dung
obj oy. So f you ak obj oy sous, you may wan o
dump a las you LG goups podally fom y doman so ha
you' ppad o o h mmbshps n as you nd o -
dally nally. Ths would b lk ang a "unsal aalog" fo
LGs...

Fom: -own@mal.ad.og
[malo:-own@mal.ad.og] On Bhalf Of En Hall
Sn: Wdnsday, Oob 01, 2008 4:11 M
To: @mal.ad.og
Subj: R: [] Goup Bs Pas

Th on hng ha I ally don' lk abou doman loal goups s ha
s y had o quy mmbshp aoss domans.

W w dlopng an applaon ha was gong o us doman loal
goups o su a paula funon n h app. Th dlops
wn' oo happy o ha ha h would ha o quy all goups n
od o s f a us s a mmb of a doman loal goup.

oman loal goups mak h pong and audng had o do.

En


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