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danholme
Posts:165
 | | 01/19/2009 11:21 PM |
| For all of you who have children, let me share with you MY first memory as a child.
I was barely two years old. My mom and dad sat me down in front of our black-and-white television and told me, clearly, that this was something important to remember. We then watched Neil Armstrong set foot on the moon. While I was only two years old, the memory stuck in my mind and to this day it is the earliest memory I have as a child.
For those of you watching history being made tomorrow, be sure to tell your kids clearly that it is important to remember... they will!!!
Best wishes, and now back to our regularly scheduled A.D. programming... :-)
Dan
Dan Holme
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| william
Posts:7
| | 01/19/2009 11:25 PM |
| Why? What's happening tomorrow?
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Dan Holme
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 8:16 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] [OT] US History Being Made
For all of you who have children, let me share with you MY first memory as a
child.
I was barely two years old. My mom and dad sat me down in front of our
black-and-white television and told me, clearly, that this was something
important to remember. We then watched Neil Armstrong set foot on the moon.
While I was only two years old, the memory stuck in my mind and to this day
it is the earliest memory I have as a child.
For those of you watching history being made tomorrow, be sure to tell your
kids clearly that it is important to remember... they will!!!
Best wishes, and now back to our regularly scheduled A.D. programming... :-)
Dan
Dan Holme
Intelliem (www.intelliem.com)
808.463.4858 new iPhone
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| Gil
Posts:315
| | 01/19/2009 11:42 PM |
| A guy that 44% of the population DIDN'T want for president is taking office. 
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of William Lefkovics
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 9:20 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] [OT] US History Being Made
Why? What's happening tomorrow?
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Dan Holme
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 8:16 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] [OT] US History Being Made
For all of you who have children, let me share with you MY first memory as a child.
I was barely two years old. My mom and dad sat me down in front of our black-and-white television and told me, clearly, that this was something important to remember. We then watched Neil Armstrong set foot on the moon. While I was only two years old, the memory stuck in my mind and to this day it is the earliest memory I have as a child.
For those of you watching history being made tomorrow, be sure to tell your kids clearly that it is important to remember... they will!!!
Best wishes, and now back to our regularly scheduled A.D. programming... :-)
Dan
Dan Holme
Intelliem (www.intelliem.com)
808.463.4858 new iPhone
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| william
Posts:7
| | 01/19/2009 11:46 PM |
| Oh. Duh.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27721638
I thought maybe Microsoft was publishing its source code or something.
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Gil Kirkpatrick
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 8:37 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] [OT] US History Being Made
A guy that 44% of the population DIDN'T want for president is taking office.
J
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of William Lefkovics
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 9:20 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] [OT] US History Being Made
Why? What's happening tomorrow?
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Dan Holme
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 8:16 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] [OT] US History Being Made
For all of you who have children, let me share with you MY first memory as a
child.
I was barely two years old. My mom and dad sat me down in front of our
black-and-white television and told me, clearly, that this was something
important to remember. We then watched Neil Armstrong set foot on the moon.
While I was only two years old, the memory stuck in my mind and to this day
it is the earliest memory I have as a child.
For those of you watching history being made tomorrow, be sure to tell your
kids clearly that it is important to remember... they will!!!
Best wishes, and now back to our regularly scheduled A.D. programming... :-)
Dan
Dan Holme
Intelliem (www.intelliem.com)
808.463.4858 new iPhone
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| kurtbuff
Posts:211
| | 01/19/2009 11:56 PM |
| The first moon landing was important. I remember watching - I was 12.
Stayed up until 4am with friends.
The inauguration of this President, or any other President in living
memory? Not so much. He's a nice guy, very intelligent, and all that.
But he's just another politician with bad ideas about how to run the
economy.
For my money, the last good President was Ford.
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Dan Holme <dan.holme@intelliem.com> wrote:
> For all of you who have children, let me share with you MY first memory as a
> child.
>
> I was barely two years old. My mom and dad sat me down in front of our
> black-and-white television and told me, clearly, that this was something
> important to remember. We then watched Neil Armstrong set foot on the
> moon. While I was only two years old, the memory stuck in my mind and to
> this day it is the earliest memory I have as a child.
>
>
>
> For those of you watching history being made tomorrow, be sure to tell your
> kids clearly that it is important to remember... they will!!!
>
>
>
> Best wishes, and now back to our regularly scheduled A.D. programming... :-)
>
>
>
> Dan
>
> Dan Holme
>
> Intelliem (www.intelliem.com)
>
> 808.463.4858 new iPhone
>
>
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For AD folks it's the day that you'll see if those group policy limits
on streaming media actually work.
William Lefkovics wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I thought
maybe Microsoft was
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Behalf Of </b>Gil Kirkpatrick
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 19, 2009 8:37 PM
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="javascript:window.location.replace('ma'+'ilto:'+'ActiveDir'+'@'+'mail'+'.activedir')".org">ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org</a>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [ActiveDir] [OT] US History Being Made<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">A guy
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Behalf Of </b>William Lefkovics
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 19, 2009 9:20 PM
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="javascript:window.location.replace('ma'+'ilto:'+'ActiveDir'+'@'+'mail'+'.activedir')".org">ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Why?
What’s happening
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Behalf Of </b>Dan Holme
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 19, 2009 8:16 PM
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="javascript:window.location.replace('ma'+'ilto:'+'ActiveDir'+'@'+'mail'+'.activedir')".org">ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal">For all of you who have children, let me share
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I was <i>barely</i> two years old. My mom and dad sat me down in
front of
our black-and-white television and told me, clearly, that this was
something <i>important
to remember</i>. We then watched Neil Armstrong set foot on the
moon. While I was only two years old, the memory stuck in my mind and
to
this day it is the earliest memory I have as a child.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">For those of you watching history being made
tomorrow, be
sure to tell your kids <i>clearly</i> that it is important to
remember... they
will!!!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Best wishes, and now back to our regularly
scheduled A.D.
programming... :-)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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(<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="www.intelliem.com">www.intelliem.com</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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| listmail
Posts:824
| | 01/20/2009 4:17 AM |
| I'm not political. I can't find enough energy to care overly much. I think
politicians above the local city block level are pretty much all crooks or
people with good intentions and bad ideas or just plain folks with bread and
circuses mentalities. Maybe the US will get better or maybe not. Maybe it
was going to get better or maybe not on its own.
I would like to say this though for the comparison made. How much time do we
spend on the moon nowadays? All we did, and not even everyone believes
thisΏ], is show that it could be done. Its like if I wrote a vbscript to
query the directory and showed that it could be done and never moved up and
wrote AdFind and the other toolsΐ]. Doing something once is exciting and
all but repeating it so that it isn't a blip on the RADAR when it is done
again and again, that is accomplishment.
Today, to me, we get our 44th US President sworn in. No more, no less. He
has, if he chooses to accept it, a lot of work in front of him if he can
even work out with those around him what it truly is that needs to be done
to fix things. With luck, he along with the rest of the coddled/pampered
politiciansΑ] in Washington will make a difference and things will get
better. Here's to hope.
joe
Ώ]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Moon_Landing_hoax_conspiracy_theories
ΐ] Not to downplay this at all. I believe we did it and I think it was a
spectacular achievement. But was is the key word. All it proves now is that
we have become a risk adverse and government regulation fat society. If this
mentality were in place back in covered wagon days we wouldn't have moved
much beyond the borders of Virginia... You would see headlines of "Settlers
left Richmond and were never heard from again, broken wagon wheel suspected
to have killed entire group, Mrs. Grundy lobbies for oversight on all plans
and all future trips west out of Virginia are on hold until further
notice.".
Α] I.E. All of them
--
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_____
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Dan Holme
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 11:16 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] [OT] US History Being Made
For all of you who have children, let me share with you MY first memory as a
child.
I was barely two years old. My mom and dad sat me down in front of our
black-and-white television and told me, clearly, that this was something
important to remember. We then watched Neil Armstrong set foot on the moon.
While I was only two years old, the memory stuck in my mind and to this day
it is the earliest memory I have as a child.
For those of you watching history being made tomorrow, be sure to tell your
kids clearly that it is important to remember... they will!!!
Best wishes, and now back to our regularly scheduled A.D. programming... :-)
Dan
Dan Holme
Intelliem (www.intelliem.com)
808.463.4858 new iPhone
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| danholme
Posts:165
| | 01/20/2009 4:33 AM |
| Sorry... my original statement was about the clearly (and apolitical) message that swearing in the first african american (or mixed race, either way!) man as president of the USA sends to our children about the progress of history. I hope that we're able to revel in it--we can chose to do so, for at least a moment.
Dan
Dan Holme
Intelliem (www.intelliem.com)
808.463.4858 new iPhone
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| austin
Posts:49
| | 01/20/2009 6:55 AM |
| J
Nice one Gil!! (not my British business, I know, but..)
Those 44% would have preferred McCain and Palin??
Phew!! Close shave then!! TV's on already here!! J
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Gil Kirkpatrick
Sent: 20 January 2009 04:37
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] [OT] US History Being Made
A guy that 44% of the population DIDN'T want for president is taking
office. J
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of William
Lefkovics
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 9:20 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] [OT] US History Being Made
Why? What's happening tomorrow?
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Dan Holme
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 8:16 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] [OT] US History Being Made
For all of you who have children, let me share with you MY first memory
as a child.
I was barely two years old. My mom and dad sat me down in front of our
black-and-white television and told me, clearly, that this was something
important to remember. We then watched Neil Armstrong set foot on the
moon. While I was only two years old, the memory stuck in my mind and
to this day it is the earliest memory I have as a child.
For those of you watching history being made tomorrow, be sure to tell
your kids clearly that it is important to remember... they will!!!
Best wishes, and now back to our regularly scheduled A.D. programming...
:-)
Dan
Dan Holme
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808.463.4858 new iPhone
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| ken
Posts:174
| | 01/20/2009 6:59 AM |
| Even though I don't live in the US, I have to agree with Dan here.
Giving women the vote - was that "history being made" or just what we should just accept as being natural and women not voting just an aberration? Ώ]
For similar historic reasons, the swearing in of the first non-white US president ΐ] shows the ability of the US polity to regenerate itself, regardless of all its flaws, corruption and distortions. In many other countries (even developed countries in Europe and Japan), recovering from the injustices of non-equal rights and even just the concept of minority representation are still a long way away.
My mother is Japanese and the concept of a non-native Japanese rising to political power or even the concept of mass immigration is beyond possibility at the moment. In Australia only in the last few months have we had the political courage to apologise for the dispossession of the native inhabitants under legal fiction.
I don't want to appear as a bleeding-heart liberal here. I just want to point out that these types of events show that your system can adjust, recognise the errors of past ways and put them behind - allowing the country to look to the future, rather than be mired in the mistakes and hatred of the past. Many places in the world - from Israel/Palestine to Somalia to Nicaragua to any number of places the people would love for the same opportunity to peacefully move forward.
Cheers
Ken
Ώ] I'll leave aside the possible belief that women shouldn't be able to vote
ΐ] I'll leave aside the equally loony belief that's he likely to be assassinated or otherwise prevented from being sworn in - I have faith in the security effort
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Dan Holme
Sent: Tuesday, 20 January 2009 8:28 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] [OT] US History Being Made
Sorry... my original statement was about the clearly (and apolitical) message that swearing in the first african american (or mixed race, either way!) man as president of the USA sends to our children about the progress of history. I hope that we're able to revel in it--we can chose to do so, for at least a moment.
Dan
Dan Holme
Intelliem (www.intelliem.com)
808.463.4858 new iPhone
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| tkern
Posts:8
| | 01/20/2009 7:15 AM |
| Its easy to be cynical about our government and the indivulas that
"run" it (and I would add, we SHOULD be cynical about them) but as Dan
said, the first african american president to be sworn in, regardless
of politics, is as big a event as the moon landing
And hopefully, unlike that, not just a one shot deal as Joe pointed out.
Regardless of politics I would take in the event in the apolitical
spirit of history being made
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:28 AM, Dan Holme <dan.holme@intelliem.com> wrote:
> Sorry... my original statement was about the clearly (and apolitical)
> message that swearing in the first african american (or mixed race, either
> way!) man as president of the USA sends to our children about the progress
> of history. I hope that we're able to revel in it--we can chose to do so,
> for at least a moment.
>
>
>
> Dan
>
> Dan Holme
>
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| robertsingers
Posts:579
| | 01/20/2009 3:55 PM |
| You 'furriners', you're all so funny :-)
________________________________
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer
Sent: Wednesday, 21 January 2009 12:54 a.m.
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] [OT] US History Being Made
Even though I don't live in the US, I have to agree with Dan here.
Giving women the vote - was that "history being made" or just what we
should just accept as being natural and women not voting just an
aberration? Ώ]
For similar historic reasons, the swearing in of the first non-white US
president ΐ] shows the ability of the US polity to regenerate itself,
regardless of all its flaws, corruption and distortions. In many other
countries (even developed countries in Europe and Japan), recovering
from the injustices of non-equal rights and even just the concept of
minority representation are still a long way away.
My mother is Japanese and the concept of a non-native Japanese rising to
political power or even the concept of mass immigration is beyond
possibility at the moment. In Australia only in the last few months have
we had the political courage to apologise for the dispossession of the
native inhabitants under legal fiction.
I don't want to appear as a bleeding-heart liberal here. I just want to
point out that these types of events show that your system can adjust,
recognise the errors of past ways and put them behind - allowing the
country to look to the future, rather than be mired in the mistakes and
hatred of the past. Many places in the world - from Israel/Palestine to
Somalia to Nicaragua to any number of places the people would love for
the same opportunity to peacefully move forward.
Cheers
Ken
Ώ] I'll leave aside the possible belief that women shouldn't be able to
vote
ΐ] I'll leave aside the equally loony belief that's he likely to be
assassinated or otherwise prevented from being sworn in - I have faith
in the security effort
From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Dan Holme
Sent: Tuesday, 20 January 2009 8:28 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] [OT] US History Being Made
Sorry... my original statement was about the clearly (and apolitical)
message that swearing in the first african american (or mixed race,
either way!) man as president of the USA sends to our children about the
progress of history. I hope that we're able to revel in it--we can
chose to do so, for at least a moment.
Dan
Dan Holme
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| messagelady
Posts:7
| | 01/20/2009 4:32 PM |
| This is a blog post I wrote late in the evening on 11/4 - it still says how
I feel about this period in history, from my own personal perspective:
November 04
WOW - Just WOW! President Elect Barak Obama... that sounds nice! For a
very long time, I have wondered if there was ever going to be a major
political candidate who represented my family in more than just politics...
As of tonight, we now have that! Barack Obama has just been named President
Elect, and John McCain has conceded.
When I became pregnant with my first son, who would have a white mother and
a black father, my parents asked me if I knew what I was getting myself
into. I told them I did, because I accepted that loving my (now-ex)husband
and child meant that I would possibly be subjected to racism, bigotry and
narrow-mindedness. We chose to live in California, and to never travel into
areas that were more pronounced in their racism (such as Arkansas where my
ex-husband's family is based) because he never wanted to subject us to that
side of life. We had two more children before divorcing, leaving their
white mother to raise three multiracial children.
Over the years, my children have experienced a small amount of racism, but
it HAS surfaced on occasion. It has come from other children who parrot
what they hear at home, from looks trying to figure out where my
kids' parents were or if I was the babysitter, and from other adults who
looked at my children as if they should be lucky to be raised in a white
middleclass neighborhood, because then they wouldn't be "ghetto". I hate
that term... "ghetto". It has so many connotations that are just so very
negative, all rolled up in one word.
>From the very beginning, it was clear that my children would be viewed as
being "black" or "african-american", even though they were more than 50%
white. Their hair, skin tone and facial features made it easy to "identify"
them as non-white. What wasn't seen was that they were raised in a very
diverse, multiethnic family, comprised of black, white, asian, native
american and hispanic family members. All of these pieces of the family
contributed to their very well rounded personalities, plus it emphasized all
that is good about each group. They learned to love corned beef (not just
for St. Patrick's Day!) as well as gumbo and BBQ. Holidays were shared
between their father's house and my family, which meant that they spent time
with all the parts of the family. All the celebrations ... all the love ...
all the best of everyone.
That is what I hope that the United States learns from having a President
who has been raised in a multiracial community. Barack Obama will bring a
diverse perspective to the White House... he brings his white mother
and grandparents, his african father and his father's family, his
asian stepfather as well as Michelle's african-american family to the
table. His upbringing has shaped him, and will make him a better man to
address issues dealing with all the parts of the United States.
Happy is an understatement... I am ECSTATIC and not for any political
reasons this time!!
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 3:54 AM, Ken Schaefer <Ken@adopenstatic.com> wrote:
> Even though I don't live in the US, I have to agree with Dan here.
>
>
>
> Giving women the vote – was that "history being made" or just what we
> should just accept as being natural and women not voting just an aberration?
> Ώ]
>
>
>
> For similar historic reasons, the swearing in of the first non-white US
> president ΐ] shows the ability of the US polity to regenerate itself,
> regardless of all its flaws, corruption and distortions. In many other
> countries (even developed countries in Europe and Japan), recovering from
> the injustices of non-equal rights and even just the concept of minority
> representation are still a long way away.
>
>
>
> My mother is Japanese and the concept of a non-native Japanese rising to
> political power or even the concept of mass immigration is beyond
> possibility at the moment. In Australia only in the last few months have we
> had the political courage to apologise for the dispossession of the native
> inhabitants under legal fiction.
>
>
>
> I don't want to appear as a bleeding-heart liberal here. I just want to
> point out that these types of events show that your system can adjust,
> recognise the errors of past ways and put them behind – allowing the country
> to look to the future, rather than be mired in the mistakes and hatred of
> the past. Many places in the world – from Israel/Palestine to Somalia to
> Nicaragua to any number of places the people would love for the same
> opportunity to peacefully move forward.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> Ώ] I'll leave aside the possible belief that women shouldn't be able to
> vote
>
> ΐ] I'll leave aside the equally loony belief that's he likely to be
> assassinated or otherwise prevented from being sworn in – I have faith in
> the security effort
>
>
>
> *From:* ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:
> ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] *On Behalf Of *Dan Holme
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 20 January 2009 8:28 PM
> *To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> *Subject:* RE: [ActiveDir] [OT] US History Being Made
>
>
>
> Sorry... my original statement was about the clearly (and apolitical)
> message that swearing in the first african american (or mixed race, either
> way!) man as president of the USA sends to our children about the progress
> of history. I hope that we're able to revel in it--we can chose to do so,
> for at least a moment.
>
>
>
>
> Dan
>
> Dan Holme
>
> Intelliem (www.intelliem.com)
>
> 808.463.4858* **new iPhone*
>
>
>
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| ifconfig
Posts:49
| | 01/21/2009 10:20 AM |
| Apparently, this topic will not rest so I'll go ahead and put in my two
cents' worth: the new President is not my favorite person. I abhor his
politics and ideology, but being a mixed-race person myself, am happy enough
that people in the United States of America can look past a person's skin
color to the content of their character.
That said, the subject of race just will not die. Beyond the fact he's
racially mixed, who cares about anything other than how he does the job? The
fact he's mixed is not the reason why people voted for him and if it is,
then there is indeed the myth of the rational voter. That's what a
color-blind world should be all about--regardless of his race, the President
of one of the most racially diverse country in the world should "bring a
diverse perspective to the White House."
I certainly wish the new President the best, as I would any new President,
regardless of race and I do this because I'm a patriot; I do this because I
want whoever is in the White House to be successful at that job. While I
don't believe Obama's got the experience, acumen, guts and political
philosophy required for the job, that's an opinion and simply that. 52% of
the population didn't think so and in a Democratic Republic, their voice
carries the force of law, and one that I respect (the law, not necessarily
the people :-)
The surest judge of all people is History and let's hope Obama is judged
favorably.
Fred
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