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08/31/2005 2:40 AM  
Just an update here (FYI) -

    A Microsoft tech. on the forums pointed out to me that
the IE Cumulative Update 896727 from bulletin MS05-038 supersedes the hotfix
903235 in MS05-037.  Once the cumulative update is applied, MBSA v2 no
longer reports on the former.  Forty lashes to me for not reading more
carefully first :-)

-DaveC
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CliffeSent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 3:26 PMTo:
ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Questions
about hotfix 903235 (MS05-037)

Thanks Rick/Deji.

Interesting that your MBSA v2 is reporting on it OK.  Maybe I am the
only one  :-o

I have worked around issues (2) and (3) [below] for
now, and will take a moment to offer my opinion on
(1).

Here we have a hotfix/bulletin that has been given a critical
rating, as have many other hotfixes before and after it.  From
a customer's viewpoint, I would like some consistency in the manner in
which these hotfixes are reported as being installed.  This has gotten
better by the way, but I don't find  903235 to be a good
example.

During the time when I am reporting on installed instances, the
technical details about each hotfix (what it does/how it does it) are not
important to me.  I want to verify it's been
installed and I want to rely on a consistent method to do
so.

In this particular case, if there are OS/SP specific reasons why one reg
key has to be used in favor of another, then so be it, but then I suggest
there may be an error in the documented bulletin, where at least the XP SP2
section should direct us to the "Installed Components" subkey, rather than
the "ActiveX Compatibility" subkey. 

-DaveC
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KingslanSent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 2:11 PMTo:
ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Questions
about hotfix 903235 (MS05-037)
Inline¦¦.



From:
ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of David
CliffeSent: Thursday, August
25, 2005 11:34 AMTo:
ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [ActiveDir] OT: Questions about
hotfix 903235 (MS05-037)


Hi
-



    I've posted this
elsewhere, but thought maybe not a bad idea to run it past this list for those
that don't mind (thanks).  I've seen the following behavior
with regard to this hotfix 903235:



(1) The bulletin MS05-037
states to check here for its existence (post
installation):

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet
Explorer\ActiveX
Compatibility\{03D9F3F2-B0E3-11D2-B081-006008039BF0}  In the past, the
'norm' for IExpress-type patches has been here:HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Active
Setup\Installed
Components\{8ade8c02-8da6-4ec1-a9ee-ec00ff73ce98}  [note:
GUID above is specific to this hotfix]  Why this change in documentation?

[RTK]  Not a
change in documentation.  The hotfix sets bits in the running of the actual
component, so the compatibility flags are manipulated, rather than new moving
parts.  I acknowledge that the location changes, but this is due to how the
hotfix effects the installed component, JView Profiler.

(2) I find that the SRVINFO
tool does NOT identify this hotfix on SP1 (XP) and SP4 (2000) machines. 
Was expecting to see it under the
"Internet Explorer 6" subheading of the SRVINFO output for these
O/S.

[RTK] Can™t confirm or
deny this one¦..  Don™t have SRVINFO currently on
anything
(3) I find that MBSA
v.2  neither identifies it as installed nor identifies it as missing on
SP1/2 (XP) and SP4 (2000) machines.  Can anyone else corrorborate these
findings?  I'm told by our TAM that nobody else has reported
this yet.

[RTK]  MBSA on my
systems detect that it is either
installed or not installed.
Thanks!


-DaveC
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