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robertsingers
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 | | 05/26/2010 1:34 AM |
| RCPS is much better for pulling back the printer configuration directly from the device, and in my experience it works much better client to device, rather than client -> server -> device. So for small sites I prefer to set the devices up correctly and then deploy the printer to the client and have it get the printer configuration out of the device. I also then don't have to worry about the 32bit\64bit divide which was rather interesting to try and straddle.
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From: activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Andrew M Stemen
Sent: Wednesday, 26 May 2010 10:46 a.m.
To: activedir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] WinNT
Such as?
I'm not a regular user of any Ricoh printer, but I've installed several
Ricoh printers, using RPCS, pointed at queues on Win2003 servers, and
never had anyone complain. Do the features also work in this manner, or
are they features that many users would never notice?
You've gotten me curious, I might have to go do some testing tomorrow.
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Andrew Michael Stemen
andrew@andrewmstemen.net
On Tue, 25 May 2010 15:11 +1200, "Robert Singers"
<Robert.Singers@dbh.govt.nz> wrote:
> On that note, with Ricoh kit the RCPS drivers give the users much more
> functionality going client to printer as well.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org
> [mailto:activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley
> Sent: Tuesday, 25 May 2010 2:50 p.m.
> To: activedir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] WinNT
>
> Not to mention, a Windows NT box is not going to be the easiest to share
> printers out from unless you have ancient printers and access to the
> print driver media of vintage...what... 1998?
>
> http://www.ricoh-usa.com/downloads/downloads.asp?tsn=Ricoh-USA&path=http://support.ricoh.com/bb/html/dr_ut_e/rc2/model/mpc40/mpc40en.htm
> The Ricoh we just installed two weeks ago only goes back as far as Win2k.
>
> That is not going to be a fun platform to find print drivers for. They
> won't be on the mainstream vendor pages.
>
> Ken Schaefer wrote:
> > How do you "globally manage drivers" using this decentralised model? Surely you need an alternate driver delivery mechanism?
> >
> > Many billing/quoting are not going to work with this type of decentralised model either
> >
> > Cheers
> > Ken
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Robert Singers
> > Sent: Tuesday, 25 May 2010 9:49 AM
> > To: activedir@mail.activedir.org
> > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] WinNT
> >
> > GPP negates none of those. If your front line support also routinely remote controls machines, you don't lose any manageability decentralising your printers.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Brian Desmond
> > Sent: Tuesday, 25 May 2010 12:19 p.m.
> > To: activedir@mail.activedir.org
> > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] WinNT
> >
> > Other than the ability to control who can print where, manage drivers and forms globally, get printer status centrally, etc...?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Brian Desmond
> > brian@briandesmond.com
> >
> > c - 312.731.3132
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Robert Singers
> > Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 4:09 PM
> > To: activedir@mail.activedir.org
> > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] WinNT
> >
> > With GPP and networked printers there is actually no reason to have a print server. You can create the queues on each of the clients. Also a lot of modern multi-function devices have SMB print queues built in.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley
> > Sent: Tuesday, 25 May 2010 3:33 a.m.
> > To: activedir@mail.activedir.org
> > Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] WinNT
> >
> > It's not supported as an OS anymore. It gets no security updates.
> >
> > You want to make it a file server (where stupid users and humans can touch it? Infect it? Bring risk into your network?
> >
> > I wouldn't use it at all period. Okay I'm small and I have probably more resources than you but I'd rather you stand up a supported free Linux distro as a file and print server than stand up an out of date/no longer supported/ no longer getting ANY security updates if your budget is that tight.
> >
> > What's the point of trying to see it in SCCM for patch maintenance if unless you pay the big bucks for custom security patches it doesn't get any anymore?
> >
> > You should only run it if there's some line of business app that demand NT. File and printing is not such a line of business app.
> >
> > Mohan Ravindran wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Susan,
> >>
> >> Thankyou. I need some more details here.
> >>
> >> 1) Will i be able to use the same edition in the *domain* without
> >> having as DC or shud i use it in a seperate workgroup?
> >> 2) If i use this as file/print server users will b able to reach this
> >> system without having any probs?
> >> 3) I cant see this systm in SCCM for patch maintenance?
> >>
> >> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Susan Bradley <susan@sbslinks.com
> >> <mailto:susan@sbslinks.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> I think you might want to evaluate if sticking Windows NT --
> >> unsupported/unpatchable/no longer getting security updates -- as a
> >> file and print server. Confliker for example -- you would not
> >> have patches for that.
> >>
> >> Castillo, Daniel (Directory Services) wrote:
> >>
> >>> The PDC FSMO is here for backwards compatibility... still I would
> >>> check further regarding the effects of the functional level and
> >>> the interaction with Vista/Win7.
> >>>
> >>> Take a look at
> >>> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/winserverMigration/thread/b6a3f0d9-3ee0-45b4-b8ab-4986b4d0020c
> >>> it might give you some good ideas.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ~D~
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> *From:* activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org
> >>> <mailto:activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org>
> >>> [mailto:activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org] *On Behalf Of *Mohan
> >>> Ravindran
> >>> *Sent:* Saturday, May 22, 2010 8:33 AM
> >>> *To:* activedir
> >>> *Subject:* [ActiveDir] WinNT
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi All,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> We have couple of WinNT server licenses and our organization is
> >>> gonna migrate to WS 2008. Will i be able to still use this
> >>> servers as file or Print server in a same domain without having
> >>> them as a DC's?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Please advise.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Mohan R
> >>> Level2-Server support Engineer.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards,
> >> Mohan R
> >> Level2-Server support Engineer.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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