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rimmermanr@xxxx.yyy

12/01/2005 10:03 AM  
It says if you enable the setting, computers "May" use dynamic DNS
updates. It sounds like enabling it will allow the computer to do them,
but won't check the box for you. This appears to be how it's working.
So there's still no way to automatically check the box, just a way to
allow or disallow the checking of the box.

-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
jpsalemi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 1:49 PM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Dynamic client DNS registrations

There are some things like this one that you don't see in the GUI when
you enable them.

It applies to XP and 2003, not 2000 The explanation text in the policy
specifies that.

John
"Rimmerman, Russ"


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I think that GPO only applies to Windows 2003 computers, according to
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=294785. I also enabled it and my
WinXP machine doesn't seem to be enabling it.
-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 12:37 PM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Dynamic client DNS registrations

Hi Russ...We don't use dynamic update here, but you can see that it can
be set to enabled.

HTH,
John

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We enable the "Register this connection's addresses in DNS" on every
Windows XP desktop.

#1 I think we use it so some applications that use DNS can resolve to
their computer names (in case they don't use WINS). All I remember is
we had issues that this resolved.

#2 Does anyone know of any way to enable this through a registry key or
GPO? We have over 1000 machines in which we need to enable this and
don't want to have to click it on every single one.

Thanks

From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tom Kern
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 10:21 AM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] FSMO role transfer

He said "constantly" not "ever"....

I think if you look at that modifer, you will agree that no one in this
field is CONSTANTLY doing incredibly hard complex thinking and work on a
hour to hour or day to day basis.

least i'm not...

If I were and my network had so many issues that i was faced with
complex troubleshooting issues everyday, i would think there was
something wrong with the admin(me) not the work itself.
On 12/1/05, Rocky Habeeb wrote:
joe,

I can't believe you said this.

"Rarely are admins ever really doing hard
admin type thinking/troubleshooting work constantly except for the
folks
who
take on escalations from lower level admins."

I stopped reading after this.
Sorry.
But I've got to cool down first.
I've no argument with anything above this line and I concur and
understand.
>BUTLOT

If the task is that trivial
If the benefit is so great
Why isn't it part of the AD snap ins as a one button task?



David Adner wrote:
> I'm not debating the effort it takes to make the change. I'm saying
I
don't
> see the point in devoting whatever amount of effort it takes for
> something that's going to provide benefit only, IMO, an extremely
rare
> case. And if that case happened, the corrective action is also a
> trivial process. And again, I'm not saying I don't see your point;
I
just
don't agree with it.
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bahta
>> Nathaniel V Contractor NASIC/SCNA
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 12:32 PM
>> To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] FSMO role transfer
>>
>> That process is trivial in itself. It does not take much to
transfer
>> the roles before you conduct maintenance on a server. Why not do
it?
>> It will save you cleaning up metadata after you seize a role of a
>> failed operations master. Sounds like a stitch in nine saves time
>> concept to me. I do not intend on taking every proactive measure
>> either, but when it comes to the small and quickly implemented
>> measures that could save plenty of time, I try to utilize all of
them
>> available.
>>
>> Is that agreeable?
>>
>> Nathaniel Vincent Bahta
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David
Adner
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 1:24 PM
>> To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] FSMO role transfer
>>
>> Any proper maintenance plan has a backout plan and a recovery plan,
>> so I am preparing for the possibility of an unexpected problem. If
>> I'm pulled into a dark room because something goes wrong then I
>> should feel confident I'll leave that room with my hide mostly
>> intact; it may be slightly singed, but I can live with that. If
>> management isn't the reasonable type then that's a different issue.
>>
>> If your philosophy is to take every proactive measure ahead of time
>> possible, then that's fine. I just don't see the point with
regards
>> to FSMO roles when the recovery action is a relatively trivial
>> process. This is obviously a matter of personal preference so I'm
>> not trying to convince others to change. I just found the concept
>> unusual so I thought I'd share.
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>>> neil.ruston@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 10:16 AM
>>> To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] FSMO role transfer
>>>
>>> I would rather, as stated earlier, assess the risk and then act
>>> appropriately. The original poster never defined 'maintenance' in
>>> detail.
>>>
>>> The original post did state that the box would be down for ~2
hours
>>> for maintenance. This is clearly more than a patch and a
>>>
>> reboot. We've
>>
>>> been over that scenario and concluded that it carries a lesser
risk.
>>>
>>> As joe said, if the maintenance all goes badly wrong, do
>>>
>> you want to
>>
>>> be pulled into a dark room and questioned as to why you did not
>>> prepare for that eventuality?
>>>
>>>
>>> neil
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Susan
>>> Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
>>> Sent: 30 November 2005 15:29
>>> To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] FSMO role transfer
>>>
>>> Okay define maintenance please?
>>>
>>> Patching?
>>> Service Pack?
>>> Applying QFEs?
>>> Performance tuning?
>>> What?
>>>
>>> Is there a level of maintenance that would cause you to move
FSMO's
>>> and not?
>>>
>>> Like for example, if I'm patching, I've tested the patch, I'm
>>> reasonably expecting a favorable outcome otherwise I wouldn't be
>>> deploying, I have a backup.
>>>
>>> neil.ruston@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I think we've missed the essence of the original post :)
>>>>
>>> The DCs are
>>>
>>>> not just being rebooted, they are being 'maintained' and
>>>>
>>> will be down
>>>
>>>> for ~ 2 hours. That means to me, that either a s/w or h/w
>>>>
>> change is
>>
>>>> going to occur which could go horribly wrong. Faced with this
>>>> situation, I would definitely transfer the roles.
>>>> If the DC were merely being rebooted and nothing else is
>>>>
>>> scheduled to
>>>
>>>> occur, I would not transfer roles.
>>>> The above 2 scenarios are very different - if one were to
>>>>
>> perform a
>>
>>>> risk analysis the actions taken to mitigate those risks would be
>>>> suitably different.
>>>> neil
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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>> -
>>
>>>> --
>>>> *From:* ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of
>>>>
>>> *David Adner
>>>
>>>> *Sent:* 29 November 2005 23:26
>>>> *To:* ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> *Subject:* RE: [ActiveDir] FSMO role transfer
>>>>
>>>> I would only agree if you told me your DC's regularly
>>>>
>> fail to come
>>
>>>> back after a reboot. And if you did tell me that I'd have to say
>>>> you're doing something wrong.
>>>> I suppose I don't consider rebooting a DC to be quite the
>>>>
>> dangerous
>>
>>>> act as others do. To what degree is this taken? If it holds
>>>>
>>> a standard
>>>
>>>
>>>> Primary zone do you transfer that role, too? If it's the
>>>>
>>> PDCE of the
>>>
>>>> forest root domain and you transfer the role, do you also
>>>>
>>> reconfigure
>>>
>>>> the new PDCE to manually synchronize time from an authoritative
>>>> source? I mean, if we're going to work under the
>>>>
>> assumption that a
>>
>>>> reboot is a regularly catastrophic causing event then
>>>>
>> it's probably
>>
>>>> time to switch OS's.
>>>> Is it possible something unexpectedly horrible can happen
>>>>
>>> as part of a
>>>
>>>
>>>> reboot? Sure. But it better be the exception. And with
>>>>
>>> regards to FSMO
>>>
>>>
>>>> roles, which, barring some specific technical requirement they be
>>>> readily available, the temporary outage of them is typically a
>>>> transparent event and shouldn't require added
>>>>
>>> administrative overhead
>>>
>>>> in transferring them back and forth. Accepting that a
>>>>
>> catastrophic
>>
>>>> event is an exception, then you follow your documented and tested
>>>> activities to recover from that exception; ie: you seize
>>>>
>> the roles,
>>
>>>> restore from backup, etc.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ----------
>>>
>>>> *From:* ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On
>>>>
>> Behalf Of *Rich
>>
>>>> Milburn
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 29, 2005 4:26 PM
>>>> *To:* ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> *Subject:* RE: [ActiveDir] FSMO role transfer
>>>>
>>>> Yeah but having "seize the FSMOs instead of moving
>>>>
>> them" as your
>>
>>>> fallback plan is like making sure you have a current backup
in
>>>> case "yanking the power cord instead of Start > Shutdown >
>>>> Restart" causes file system corruption J
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>
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>>>>
>>>> *From:* ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of
>>>> *ChuckGaff@xxxxxxx
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 29, 2005 11:56 AM
>>>> *To:* ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [ActiveDir] FSMO role transfer
>>>>
>>>> If something went wrong you could still seize the FSMO
>>>>
>>> roles as an
>>>
>>>> option rather than doing a transfer. Of course the
>>>>
>>> procedures for
>>>
>>>> all of these for the 5 FSMOs should be documented just in
case
>>>> needed..
>>>>
>>>> Chuck
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