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JithendraUser is Offline

Posts:5

02/01/2012 8:35 PM  
Hello All,
We have got somewhere around 70,000+ DNS records (A, CNAME, MX, NS, SRV) in
our forest.

In windows 2008 DNS management console, when I open this domain Zone, it
will load all 70,000+ records with in a minute where as in windows 2008 R2
DCs it takes more than 5 minutes to load.

Does anyone experienced this behavior?

Regards,

Jit

jeremytsUser is Offline

Posts:18

02/01/2012 8:39 PM  
Hi Jit,



After sending this to the list 3 times I think I better respond with some
info.



70,000 records is a ridiculous amount. Are they all real, or are a certain
percentage stale? Have you got scavenging enabled?



Anyway, these two hotfixes are a requirement for any large AD/DNS based on
Windows 2008 R2:

KB983534: Performance of the DNS Server service keeps decreasing under a
heavy load situation in Windows Server 2008 R2

KB2548145: The size of the Active Directory increases rapidly on a Windows
Server 2008 R2-based domain controller that hosts the DNS Server role



Cheers,

Jeremy.



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To: activedir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] DNS Records loding slowly in win 2008 R2



Hello All,



There is around 70,000+ DNS records (A, CNAME, MX, NS, SRV) in our forest.



In windows 2008 DNS management console, when I open the domain Zone, it will
load all 70,000+ records with in a minute where as in windows 2008 R2 DCs it
takes more than 5 minutes to load.



Does anyone experienced this behavior?

Regards,
Jit


rmscheckUser is Offline

Posts:249

02/01/2012 11:20 PM  
I dunno.. is 70K really ridiculous? anyone have an environment
with that sort of number? I've 20-30K meeself... I dont recall
them having issues then, but now you got me going...



On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 2:42 AM, Jeremy Saunders
<jeremy@jhouseconsulting.com> wrote:
> Hi Jit,
>
>
>
> After sending this to the list 3 times I think I better respond with some
> info.
>
>
>
> 70,000 records is a ridiculous amount. Are they all real, or are a certain
> percentage stale? Have you got scavenging enabled?
>
>
>
> Anyway, these two hotfixes are a requirement for any large AD/DNS based on
> Windows 2008 R2:
>
> KB983534: Performance of the DNS Server service keeps decreasing under a
> heavy load situation in Windows Server 2008 R2
>
> KB2548145: The size of the Active Directory increases rapidly on a Windows
> Server 2008 R2-based domain controller that hosts the DNS Server role
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
>
> From: activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org
> [mailto:activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of
> jithendra.bm@gmail.com
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2012 3:46 PM
> To: activedir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: [ActiveDir] DNS Records loding slowly in win 2008 R2
>
>
>
> Hello All,
>
>
>
> There is around 70,000+ DNS records (A, CNAME, MX, NS, SRV) in our forest.
>
>
>
> In windows 2008 DNS management console, when I open the domain Zone, it will
> load all 70,000+ records with in a minute where as in windows 2008 R2 DCs it
> takes more than 5 minutes to load.
>
>
>
> Does anyone experienced this behavior?
>
> Regards,
> Jit

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BrianBUser is Offline

Posts:138

02/01/2012 11:38 PM  
70 k does not sound like that much. If we were using ADDNS, I am sure it would be more than that. I am told by some MS folks that there are much larger orgs. Using ADDNS without the trouble. Is the issue with the DNS console or with DNS itself.

I do remember having a similar issue with DNS console and I believe there was a hotfix that addressed the issue.

Are you using the dns mmc or server manager to view the zones. That might help isolate the issue. Server manager uses ports 5985 and 5986 and 9389 for AD web services.

May be worth a try to use them both and see if there is a difference.

Brian Britt
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Rand Salazar <rmscheck08@gmail.com> wrote:


I dunno.. is 70K really ridiculous? anyone have an environment
with that sort of number? I've 20-30K meeself... I dont recall
them having issues then, but now you got me going...



On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 2:42 AM, Jeremy Saunders
<jeremy@jhouseconsulting.com> wrote:
> Hi Jit,
>
>
>
> After sending this to the list 3 times I think I better respond with some
> info.
>
>
>
> 70,000 records is a ridiculous amount. Are they all real, or are a certain
> percentage stale? Have you got scavenging enabled?
>
>
>
> Anyway, these two hotfixes are a requirement for any large AD/DNS based on
> Windows 2008 R2:
>
> KB983534: Performance of the DNS Server service keeps decreasing under a
> heavy load situation in Windows Server 2008 R2
>
> KB2548145: The size of the Active Directory increases rapidly on a Windows
> Server 2008 R2-based domain controller that hosts the DNS Server role
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
>
> From: activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org
> [mailto:activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of
> jithendra.bm@gmail.com
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2012 3:46 PM
> To: activedir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: [ActiveDir] DNS Records loding slowly in win 2008 R2
>
>
>
> Hello All,
>
>
>
> There is around 70,000+ DNS records (A, CNAME, MX, NS, SRV) in our forest.
>
>
>
> In windows 2008 DNS management console, when I open the domain Zone, it will
> load all 70,000+ records with in a minute where as in windows 2008 R2 DCs it
> takes more than 5 minutes to load.
>
>
>
> Does anyone experienced this behavior?
>
> Regards,
> Jit

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slUser is Offline

Posts:59

02/02/2012 7:55 AM  
I've got ~60K in the main production zone and Windows 2003 MMC displays
the zone records in just over a minute, roughly same time as using RSAD
on W7.

Jithendra the OT didn't clearly state whether he's accessing same DNS
server (indicating MMC issue) or different servers running W2K8 and R2,
locally or over network. Those are big factors.

regards

Slav



On 2/02/2012 10:17 AM, Rand Salazar wrote:
> I dunno.. is 70K really ridiculous? anyone have an environment
> with that sort of number? I've 20-30K meeself... I dont recall
> them having issues then, but now you got me going...

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JithendraUser is Offline

Posts:5

02/02/2012 9:07 AM  
Yes it’s an AD integrated DNS server, all are active records (and
Scavenging is also enabled)



Coming back to the issue, this happens in any windows 2008R2 domain
controller (logged-in locally) or in my windows 7 client (which I have a
local DC in the site) takes more time....



However in windows 2008 DCs it loads all 70K records with in 70 to 80
seconds.

Does loading number of records /sec veries between windows 2008 and windows
2008R2 DNS servers? or should we need to tweak any registry value ?


I would need to check the hotfix as Jeremy indicated.





Regards,

Jit


On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 1:23 PM, S. Pidgorny <sl@mvps.org> wrote:

> I've got ~60K in the main production zone and Windows 2003 MMC displays
> the zone records in just over a minute, roughly same time as using RSAD on
> W7.
>
> Jithendra the OT didn't clearly state whether he's accessing same DNS
> server (indicating MMC issue) or different servers running W2K8 and R2,
> locally or over network. Those are big factors.
>
> regards
>
> Slav
>
>
>
>
> On 2/02/2012 10:17 AM, Rand Salazar wrote:
>
>> I dunno.. is 70K really ridiculous? anyone have an environment
>> with that sort of number? I've 20-30K meeself... I dont recall
>> them having issues then, but now you got me going...
>>
>
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>

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