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jitendrakalyankar
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 | | 12/14/2005 5:40 AM |
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| Antknee
Posts:0
| | 12/14/2005 6:55 AM |
| Ideally¦ I would recommend fixing your current environment, making
it stable and make sure it stays stable. During this time plan an upgrade to
2003. I would recommend not implementing any extensive GPO implementations
until your current environment is stable.
Thank You,
Anthony Scott
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From:
ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jitendra Kalyankar
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005
11:39 AM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ActiveDir] W2K &
W2K3 environment.
Here is scenario that is currently being played in my company. We have
W2K AD in place,
we are not using GPOs except one or two. Now suddenly they (read
managers) realized that
we need to implement GPO extensively. There are issues with current AD infrastructure
like
replication is not proper, DNS etc. And other thing is my company has
at least 12 different
language that we have to support on Windows XP OS.
Now there are two groups in company one is saying go for fixing the
existing infrastructure
and second is saying go for W2K3 since the W2K is almost non-existant.
My question to list
is what would you suggest in this situation. Any insights, inputs are
more than welcome. Also
I will keep posted about the decision we (read managers) make, we are having
a meeting with
Microsoft for this but just as heads up I need to understand obvious
pitfalls if any.
--
Sincerely,
Jitendra Kalyankar | | | |
| AD00000893
Posts:0
| | 12/14/2005 7:11 AM |
| Perhaps hiring an experience MCSE contractor will help. Replications and
other issues with AD is almost always a start with DNS.
You are talking about redoing the who AD structure and loosing accounts
and passwords? How large is the company? How will you implement Windows
2003 differently than you did Windows 2000?
The languages on the workstations will not be an issue.
Jitendra Kalyankar wrote:
Here is scenario that is currently being played in my company. We have
W2K AD in place,
we are not using GPOs except one or two. Now suddenly they (read
managers) realized that
we need to implement GPO extensively. There are issues with current AD
infrastructure like
replication is not proper, DNS etc. And other thing is my company has
at least 12 different
language that we have to support on Windows XP OS.
Now there are two groups in company one is saying go for fixing the
existing infrastructure
and second is saying go for W2K3 since the W2K is almost non-existant.
My question to list
is what would you suggest in this situation. Any insights, inputs are
more than welcome. Also
I will keep posted about the decision we (read managers) make, we are
having a meeting with
Microsoft for this but just as heads up I need to understand obvious
pitfalls if any.
--
Sincerely,
Jitendra Kalyankar
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| AD000001210
Posts:0
| | 12/14/2005 7:36 AM |
| We went through that a while back. If your current environment is not
running properly group policies won't apply correctly. They will be hit and miss as to which workstations they
apply to. AD problems usually track back to DNS
problems
Fix your current problems
first..
Mike
-----Original Message-----From:
ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jitendra
KalyankarSent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 10:39 AMTo:
ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [ActiveDir] W2K & W2K3
environment.
Here is scenario that is currently being played in my company. We have
W2K AD in place,
we are not using GPOs except one or two. Now suddenly they (read
managers) realized that
we need to implement GPO extensively. There are issues with current AD
infrastructure like
replication is not proper, DNS etc. And other thing is my company has at
least 12 different
language that we have to support on Windows XP OS.
Now there are two groups in company one is saying go for fixing the
existing infrastructure
and second is saying go for W2K3 since the W2K is almost non-existant. My
question to list
is what would you suggest in this situation. Any insights, inputs are
more than welcome. Also
I will keep posted about the decision we (read managers) make, we are
having a meeting with
Microsoft for this but just as heads up I need to understand obvious
pitfalls if any.
-- Sincerely,Jitendra
Kalyankar | | | |
| AD00000804
Posts:0
| | 12/14/2005 7:45 AM |
| Absolutely -- you must fix DNS and other core service issues in Windows
2000 or your migration could experience difficulties.
Chuck | | | |
| Mylo
Posts:0
| | 12/14/2005 8:31 AM |
| Jitendra,
I noticed you stated that the Win2K environment is almost
non-existent.... if that's true then a side-by-side migration may be a
possiblity.
If you're keeping the Win2K solution, I'd definitely stabilise first...
don't touch Group Policy until you've resolved any DNS issues first,
otherwise you may be adding SYSVOL/FRS replication to your list of
issues. Personally, I'd be looking at what the business requirements are
and what the desire and drive to implement GPOs is based on. You didn't
state what your role is in this or what the size of the organisation is,
but if it's simply a case of a manager reading a TCO whitepaper and
saying I want that, I'd look to get some sort of formal backing or
management buy-in for stabilising the environment before you even
consider continuing. Once you've jumped over those hurdles and resolve
your AD issues, and implemented some sort of AD monitoring solution
(even if its just using the support tools), only then would I consider
looking at the upgrade path to Win2k3 and subsequently implementing GPO.
Regards,
Mylo
Jitendra Kalyankar wrote:
Here is scenario that is currently being played in my company. We have
W2K AD in place,
we are not using GPOs except one or two. Now suddenly they (read
managers) realized that
we need to implement GPO extensively. There are issues with current AD
infrastructure like
replication is not proper, DNS etc. And other thing is my company has
at least 12 different
language that we have to support on Windows XP OS.
Now there are two groups in company one is saying go for fixing the
existing infrastructure
and second is saying go for W2K3 since the W2K is almost non-existant.
My question to list
is what would you suggest in this situation. Any insights, inputs are
more than welcome. Also
I will keep posted about the decision we (read managers) make, we are
having a meeting with
Microsoft for this but just as heads up I need to understand obvious
pitfalls if any.
--
Sincerely,
Jitendra Kalyankar
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| AD000001161
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| | 12/14/2005 8:39 AM |
| I agree, hire a contractor. Get it done right while things are still in their infancy.
:)
-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Za Vue
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:13 PM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] W2K & W2K3 environment.
Perhaps hiring an experience MCSE contractor will help. Replications and other issues with AD is almost always a start with DNS.
You are talking about redoing the who AD structure and loosing accounts and passwords? How large is the company? How will you implement Windows
2003 differently than you did Windows 2000?
The languages on the workstations will not be an issue.
Jitendra Kalyankar wrote:
> Here is scenario that is currently being played in my company. We have
> W2K AD in place, we are not using GPOs except one or two. Now suddenly
> they (read
> managers) realized that
> we need to implement GPO extensively. There are issues with current AD
> infrastructure like replication is not proper, DNS etc. And other
> thing is my company has at least 12 different language that we have to
> support on Windows XP OS.
>
> Now there are two groups in company one is saying go for fixing the
> existing infrastructure and second is saying go for W2K3 since the W2K
> is almost non-existant.
> My question to list
> is what would you suggest in this situation. Any insights, inputs are
> more than welcome. Also I will keep posted about the decision we (read
> managers) make, we are having a meeting with Microsoft for this but
> just as heads up I need to understand obvious pitfalls if any.
>
>
> --
> Sincerely,
> Jitendra Kalyankar
>
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| jitendrakalyankar
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| | 12/14/2005 9:25 AM |
| We went through that a while back. If your current environment is not running properly group policies won't apply correctly. They will be hit and miss as to which workstations they apply to. AD problems usually track back to DNS problems
Fix your current problems first..
Mike
-----Original Message-----From:
ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
Jitendra KalyankarSent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 10:39 AMTo:
ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [ActiveDir] W2K & W2K3 environment.
Here is scenario that is currently being played in my company. We have W2K AD in place,
we are not using GPOs except one or two. Now suddenly they (read managers) realized that
we need to implement GPO extensively. There are issues with current AD infrastructure like
replication is not proper, DNS etc. And other thing is my company has at least 12 different
language that we have to support on Windows XP OS.
Now there are two groups in company one is saying go for fixing the existing infrastructure
and second is saying go for W2K3 since the W2K is almost non-existant. My question to list
is what would you suggest in this situation. Any insights, inputs are more than welcome. Also
I will keep posted about the decision we (read managers) make, we are having a meeting with
Microsoft for this but just as heads up I need to understand obvious pitfalls if any.
-- Sincerely,Jitendra Kalyankar | | | |
| AD00000893
Posts:0
| | 12/14/2005 10:18 AM |
| It was never done right from the start that is why you are having
problems. Sounds like the IT team lacks AD knowledge. First thing you
need to would worry about is DNS before anything else. When DNS is
working properly things will fall into places a lot more smoothly.
Z.V.
Jitendra Kalyankar wrote:
Company is large and distributed across the globe in around 66
countries. Here is
other thing, I just joined the team about say 3 months back and
found out many
things that need urgent attention to state a few, first was
replication which right
now is fixed. Not perfect but working okay for the time being.
Second is DNS which
is a *nix based DNS. What will be the solution for this problem,
I can setup a Windows
DNS and/or I can put a Read-Only Windows DNS inside each big
site.
The list of problems can go on and on. Anyways I have same
opinion that we need
to fix the current infrastructure first, but making sure that my
reasoning is correct.
Sincerely,
J
On 12/14/05, Mike Williams williamsm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
We went through that a while back. If your current
environment is not running properly group policies won't apply
correctly. They will be hit and miss as to which workstations
they apply to. AD problems usually track back to DNS problems
Fix your current problems first..
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From:
ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Jitendra Kalyankar
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 10:39 AM
To:
ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ActiveDir] W2K & W2K3 environment.
Here is scenario that is currently being played in my
company. We have W2K AD in place,
we are not using GPOs except one or two. Now suddenly they
(read managers) realized that
we need to implement GPO extensively. There are issues with
current AD infrastructure like
replication is not proper, DNS etc. And other thing is my
company has at least 12 different
language that we have to support on Windows XP OS.
Now there are two groups in company one is saying go for
fixing the existing infrastructure
and second is saying go for W2K3 since the W2K is almost
non-existant. My question to list
is what would you suggest in this situation. Any insights,
inputs are more than welcome. Also
I will keep posted about the decision we (read managers)
make, we are having a meeting with
Microsoft for this but just as heads up I need to understand
obvious pitfalls if any.
--
Sincerely,
Jitendra Kalyankar | | | |
| Antknee
Posts:0
| | 12/14/2005 10:18 AM |
| Regarding DNS, ultimately you should
really move it to MS AD integrated DNS.
You can do something like this:
http://truetechsolutions.supersized.org/archives/34-Use-BIND-as-an-AD-DNS-server!!.html
Thank You,
Anthony Scott
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jitendra Kalyankar
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005
3:38 PM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] W2K &
W2K3 environment.
Company is large and distributed across the globe in around 66
countries. Here is
other thing, I just joined the team about say 3 months back and found
out many
things that need urgent attention to state a few, first was replication
which right
now is fixed. Not perfect but working okay for the time being. Second
is DNS which
is a *nix based DNS. What will be the solution for this problem, I can
setup a Windows
DNS and/or I can put a Read-Only Windows DNS inside each big
site.
The list of problems can go on and on. Anyways I have same opinion that
we need
to fix the current infrastructure first, but making sure that my
reasoning is correct.
Sincerely,
J
On 12/14/05, Mike
Williams
wrote:
We went through that a while back. If your
current environment is not running properly group policies won't apply
correctly. They will be hit and miss as to which workstations they apply to. AD
problems usually track back to DNS problems
Fix your current problems first..
Mike
-----Original
Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jitendra Kalyankar
Sent: Wednesday,
December 14, 2005 10:39 AM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ActiveDir]
W2K & W2K3 environment.
Here is scenario that is currently being played in my company. We have
W2K AD in place,
we are not using GPOs except one or two. Now suddenly they (read
managers) realized that
we need to implement GPO extensively. There are issues with current AD
infrastructure like
replication is not proper, DNS etc. And other thing is my company has
at least 12 different
language that we have to support on Windows XP OS.
Now there are two groups in company one is saying go for fixing the
existing infrastructure
and second is saying go for W2K3 since the W2K is almost non-existant.
My question to list
is what would you suggest in this situation. Any insights, inputs are
more than welcome. Also
I will keep posted about the decision we (read managers) make, we are
having a meeting with
Microsoft for this but just as heads up I need to understand obvious
pitfalls if any.
--
Sincerely,
Jitendra Kalyankar | | | |
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