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09/07/2005 6:14 AM  
This question is regarding objects in AD sites and services.  I see 2 objects in a site that are not domain controllers.  The objects are share point servers and each has an object in the built in computers container.  The only item under these objects (right pane) is NAME="MSMQ Settings"  TYPE="MSMQ Settings" Name & Type being the headers in the right pane.  I have been searching for related articles involving share point and servers showing as domain controller objects in sites and services and even MSMQ searches but have come up empty handed.  I would like to believe these share point servers were originally set up as DC's and then demoted, but I cannot find proof of them ever being DC's (replmon, show retired partners).  They do not have any NTDS Settings and do not show up in NTDSutil either. 

I am hesitant to delete the objects from sites and services as I do not know how they were originally populated there and if there is a reason for them to be there.  Does anyone know or has anyone else seen a similar situation?  If so please steer me in the right direction. TIA!

General Info:
AD 2000 Forest

Single Domain

Native 2000 AD, SP4

Regards,  
David Chianese
bdesmondUser is Offline

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09/07/2005 6:26 AM  
MSMQ is an AD integrated service. Remember AD Sites and Services has the and
services part. Things will show up in there exposing services which are
AD integrated (e.g. MSMQ, Exchange, etc).



Thanks,
Brian
Desmond

brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx



c -
312.731.3132





From:
ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of CHIANESE, DAVID
Sent: Wednesday, September 07,
2005 2:12 PM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ActiveDir] AD Sites and
Services Question regarding share point servers



This
question is regarding objects in AD sites and services.  I see 2 objects
in a site that are not domain controllers.  The objects are share point
servers and each has an object in the built in computers container.  The
only item under these objects (right pane) is NAME="MSMQ
Settings"  TYPE="MSMQ Settings" Name & Type being the
headers in the right pane.  I have been searching for related articles
involving share point and servers showing as domain controller objects in sites
and services and even MSMQ searches but have come up empty handed.  I
would like to believe these share point servers were originally set up as DC's
and then demoted, but I cannot find proof of them ever being DC's (replmon,
show retired partners).  They do not have any NTDS Settings and do not
show up in NTDSutil either. 

I
am hesitant to delete the objects from sites and services as I do not know how
they were originally populated there and if there is a reason for them to be
there.  Does anyone know or has anyone else seen a similar
situation?  If so please steer me in the right direction. TIA!

General
Info:

AD
2000 Forest
Single
Domain
Native
2000 AD, SP4



Regards,  
David Chianese
AD000001286User is Offline

Posts:0

09/07/2005 6:52 AM  
Typically I have always seen MSMQServices under the
services tab (View / Show services node) and it does reside there, as well as
Microsoft Exchange.  I do not recall ever seeing the server object under
the Site / Servers / servername though.  Although I do not view this as a
big problem or misconfiguration I still wonder why the object shows up as it
were an orphaned DC under Site / Servers /
Servername.  

I just
want to validate the server object existence in the Sites & Services
hierarchy and document why it is there.  Thanks for the reply
Brian.


David
Chianese  
 -----Original Message-----From:
ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Brian DesmondSent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005
2:24 PMTo: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: RE:
[ActiveDir] AD Sites and Services Question regarding share point
servers


MSMQ
is an AD integrated service. Remember AD Sites and Services has the and
services part. Things will show up in there exposing services which are AD
integrated (e.g. MSMQ, Exchange, etc).


Thanks,Brian
Desmond
brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

c -
312.731.3132






From:
ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of CHIANESE,
DAVIDSent: Wednesday,
September 07, 2005 2:12 PMTo: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [ActiveDir] AD Sites and
Services Question regarding share point
servers

This question is regarding objects
in AD sites and services.  I see 2 objects in a site that are not domain
controllers.  The objects are share point servers and each has an object
in the built in computers container.  The only item under these objects
(right pane) is NAME="MSMQ Settings"  TYPE="MSMQ Settings" Name &
Type being the headers in the right pane.  I have been searching for
related articles involving share point and servers showing as domain
controller objects in sites and services and even MSMQ searches but have come
up empty handed.  I would like to believe these share point servers were
originally set up as DC's and then demoted, but I cannot find proof of them
ever being DC's (replmon, show retired partners).  They do not have any
NTDS Settings and do not show up in NTDSutil either. 

I
am hesitant to delete the objects from sites and services as I do not know how
they were originally populated there and if there is a reason for them to be
there.  Does anyone know or has anyone else seen a similar
situation?  If so please steer me in the right direction.
TIA!
General Info:

AD 2000 Forest Single Domain
Native 2000 AD, SP4


Regards,  

David
Chianese
AD000001286User is Offline

Posts:0

09/07/2005 6:57 AM  
I just
found an article:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/library/ServerHelp/2744bec1-cb37-4d89-b90e-8140f0f7d7de.mspx 

To set permissions for MSMQ Settings objects




1.

Open Active Directory Sites and Services.


2.

In the console tree, select the applicable server object.
Where?



¢

Active Directory Sites and
Services/Sites/YourSiteObject/Servers/YourServerObject



So I
have confirmed they do belong there.  Thanks again Brian, I just needed a
little nomenclature for my search.


Regards,
David
Chianese

-----Original Message-----From:
ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Brian DesmondSent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005
2:24 PMTo: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: RE:
[ActiveDir] AD Sites and Services Question regarding share point
servers


MSMQ
is an AD integrated service. Remember AD Sites and Services has the and
services part. Things will show up in there exposing services which are AD
integrated (e.g. MSMQ, Exchange, etc).


Thanks,Brian
Desmond
brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

c -
312.731.3132






From:
ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of CHIANESE,
DAVIDSent: Wednesday,
September 07, 2005 2:12 PMTo: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [ActiveDir] AD Sites and
Services Question regarding share point
servers

This question is regarding objects
in AD sites and services.  I see 2 objects in a site that are not domain
controllers.  The objects are share point servers and each has an object
in the built in computers container.  The only item under these objects
(right pane) is NAME="MSMQ Settings"  TYPE="MSMQ Settings" Name &
Type being the headers in the right pane.  I have been searching for
related articles involving share point and servers showing as domain
controller objects in sites and services and even MSMQ searches but have come
up empty handed.  I would like to believe these share point servers were
originally set up as DC's and then demoted, but I cannot find proof of them
ever being DC's (replmon, show retired partners).  They do not have any
NTDS Settings and do not show up in NTDSutil either. 

I
am hesitant to delete the objects from sites and services as I do not know how
they were originally populated there and if there is a reason for them to be
there.  Does anyone know or has anyone else seen a similar
situation?  If so please steer me in the right direction.
TIA!
General Info:

AD 2000 Forest Single Domain
Native 2000 AD, SP4


Regards,  

David
Chianese
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