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pjessop@xxxx.yyy

09/09/2005 4:27 AM  
Regards

Peter Jessop
noaheiger@xxxx.yyy

09/09/2005 5:24 AM  
Thanks for the KB reference. That "primary user" feature might do the trick
for us in combination with disabling it for desktops.

One question: the first item in the Resolution section of that KB article
says to "resolve this problem, obtain the latest service pack...." But I am
running SP2 and don't see those registry keys. Is that just standard MS
boilerplate to get everyone to SP2?

-- nme

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cothern Jeff D. Team EITC [mailto:cotherj@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 8:28 AM
> To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Offline Files Question
>
> What I did was set the policy to turn off the file sync for
> offline files which automatically is set with folder
> redirection. If they are on the network they don't really
> need offline file going as they are
> always online. For laptops I can understand but then generally only
> one user uses those machines.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> jpsalemi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 8:54 AM
> To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Offline Files Question
>
> You can work around it, not really an easy fix though.
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;811660
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "steve patrick"
>
>
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> ail.activedir.org
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> Re: [ActiveDir] Offline Files
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> 09/08/2005 10:52 Question
>
> PM
>
>
>
>
>
> Please respond to
>
> ActiveDir@xxxxxxx
>
> tivedir.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> This is by design (albeit bad IMO)
>
> IIRC this wont occur if 3 or fewer profiles sync , due to design.
>
> steve
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Noah Eiger
> To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 6:24 PM
> Subject: [ActiveDir] Offline Files Question
>
> Hi -
>
> Configuraiton: All users have their My Documents redirected
> to network shares. All XP (and most 2000) users have My
> Documents set to synchronize Offline Files. All are set to
> synchronize at log on and log off.
>
> Many users have complained that when they log off, they see
> not only their files synchronize but also the files of other
> users who have user profiles on that machine. Often they
> will get permissions errors on the other users' files since
> the home directories are secured as per MSKB 274443.
> This is a hassle because it stalls at the end of the sync
> (waiting to have someone acknowledge the error) and because
> it takes so long.
>
> Is this behaviour as expected? Why is it synchronizing other users'
> files?
> Is there a way to prevent this?
>
> Thanks.
>
> -- nme
>
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09/09/2005 5:50 AM  
Well, that's why I said it' s not easy...You have to create the keys...

If you have SP2, adding the keys should work. I never tested it with SP2,
but did try it with the patch, pre-SP2.

Of course they want everyone to install SP2, and someday soon, will not
support anything less.

John



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Thanks for the KB reference. That "primary user" feature might do the trick
for us in combination with disabling it for desktops.

One question: the first item in the Resolution section of that KB article
says to "resolve this problem, obtain the latest service pack...." But I am
running SP2 and don't see those registry keys. Is that just standard MS
boilerplate to get everyone to SP2?

-- nme

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cothern Jeff D. Team EITC [mailto:cotherj@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 8:28 AM
> To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Offline Files Question
>
> What I did was set the policy to turn off the file sync for
> offline files which automatically is set with folder
> redirection. If they are on the network they don't really
> need offline file going as they are
> always online. For laptops I can understand but then generally only
> one user uses those machines.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> jpsalemi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 8:54 AM
> To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Offline Files Question
>
> You can work around it, not really an easy fix though.
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;811660
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "steve patrick"
>
>
> st.net>
> To
> Sent by:
>
> ActiveDir-owner@m
> cc
> ail.activedir.org
>
>
> Subject
> Re: [ActiveDir] Offline Files
>
> 09/08/2005 10:52 Question
>
> PM
>
>
>
>
>
> Please respond to
>
> ActiveDir@xxxxxxx
>
> tivedir.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> This is by design (albeit bad IMO)
>
> IIRC this wont occur if 3 or fewer profiles sync , due to design.
>
> steve
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Noah Eiger
> To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 6:24 PM
> Subject: [ActiveDir] Offline Files Question
>
> Hi -
>
> Configuraiton: All users have their My Documents redirected
> to network shares. All XP (and most 2000) users have My
> Documents set to synchronize Offline Files. All are set to
> synchronize at log on and log off.
>
> Many users have complained that when they log off, they see
> not only their files synchronize but also the files of other
> users who have user profiles on that machine. Often they
> will get permissions errors on the other users' files since
> the home directories are secured as per MSKB 274443.
> This is a hassle because it stalls at the end of the sync
> (waiting to have someone acknowledge the error) and because
> it takes so long.
>
> Is this behaviour as expected? Why is it synchronizing other users'
> files?
> Is there a way to prevent this?
>
> Thanks.
>
> -- nme
>
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09/10/2005 12:09 PM  
Oh very nice -- thanks for the info!

steve

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Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Offline Files Question

You can work around it, not really an easy fix though.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;811660

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This is by design (albeit bad IMO)

IIRC this wont occur if 3 or fewer profiles sync , due to design.

steve
----- Original Message -----
From: Noah Eiger
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 6:24 PM
Subject: [ActiveDir] Offline Files Question

Hi -

Configuraiton: All users have their My Documents redirected to network
shares. All XP (and most 2000) users have My Documents set to synchronize
Offline Files. All are set to synchronize at log on and log off.

Many users have complained that when they log off, they see not only their
files synchronize but also the files of other users who have user profiles
on that machine. Often they will get permissions errors on the other
users' files since the home directories are secured as per MSKB 274443.
This is a hassle because it stalls at the end of the sync (waiting to have
someone acknowledge the error) and because it takes so long.

Is this behaviour as expected? Why is it synchronizing other users' files?
Is there a way to prevent this?

Thanks.

-- nme

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noaheiger@xxxx.yyy

09/14/2005 8:56 AM  
Hi -

Re: SP2. The hotfix does not run against SP2 machines. The KB says the
issues were resolved in SP2 (hence, no need for the hotfix). However, I
found that the NetCache subkeys ExclusionErrorSuppressionList do not seem to
exist. I am able to create the other keys mentioned in the KB (for primary
users and admin pinning).

Has anyone gotten the suprression list working in SP2? Do you just create
those subkeys?

-- nme

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Patrick [mailto:tech4steve@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 5:08 PM
> To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Offline Files Question
>
> Oh very nice -- thanks for the info!
>
> steve
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> To:
> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 5:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Offline Files Question
>
>
> > You can work around it, not really an easy fix though.
> >
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;811660
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "steve patrick"
> > > st.net>
> To
> > Sent by:
> > ActiveDir-owner@m
> cc
> > ail.activedir.org
> >
> Subject
> > Re: [ActiveDir] Offline Files
> > 09/08/2005 10:52 Question
> > PM
> >
> >
> > Please respond to
> > ActiveDir@xxxxxxx
> > tivedir.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > This is by design (albeit bad IMO)
> >
> > IIRC this wont occur if 3 or fewer profiles sync , due to design.
> >
> > steve
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Noah Eiger
> > To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 6:24 PM
> > Subject: [ActiveDir] Offline Files Question
> >
> > Hi -
> >
> > Configuraiton: All users have their My Documents redirected
> to network
> > shares. All XP (and most 2000) users have My Documents set
> to synchronize
> > Offline Files. All are set to synchronize at log on and log off.
> >
> > Many users have complained that when they log off, they see
> not only their
> > files synchronize but also the files of other users who
> have user profiles
> > on that machine. Often they will get permissions errors on the other
> > users' files since the home directories are secured as per
> MSKB 274443.
> > This is a hassle because it stalls at the end of the sync
> (waiting to have
> > someone acknowledge the error) and because it takes so long.
> >
> > Is this behaviour as expected? Why is it synchronizing
> other users' files?
> > Is there a way to prevent this?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > -- nme
> >
> > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
> > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx
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09/15/2005 1:01 AM  
Hi Noah..

I have not tested with SP2, but the hotfix is part of SP2. I did test it
on SP1 with the patch. The patch did not create the keys either. You need
to do it manually.

All of what they said I did find to work correctly with the additon of the
reg keys. It still isn't close to being perfect, but it will help some.
Makes it a bit more usable.

John



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Hi -

Re: SP2. The hotfix does not run against SP2 machines. The KB says the
issues were resolved in SP2 (hence, no need for the hotfix). However, I
found that the NetCache subkeys ExclusionErrorSuppressionList do not seem
to
exist. I am able to create the other keys mentioned in the KB (for primary
users and admin pinning).

Has anyone gotten the suprression list working in SP2? Do you just create
those subkeys?

-- nme

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Patrick [mailto:tech4steve@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 5:08 PM
> To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Offline Files Question
>
> Oh very nice -- thanks for the info!
>
> steve
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> To:
> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 5:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Offline Files Question
>
>
> > You can work around it, not really an easy fix though.
> >
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;811660
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "steve patrick"
> > > st.net>
> To
> > Sent by:
> > ActiveDir-owner@m
> cc
> > ail.activedir.org
> >
> Subject
> > Re: [ActiveDir] Offline Files
> > 09/08/2005 10:52 Question
> > PM
> >
> >
> > Please respond to
> > ActiveDir@xxxxxxx
> > tivedir.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > This is by design (albeit bad IMO)
> >
> > IIRC this wont occur if 3 or fewer profiles sync , due to design.
> >
> > steve
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Noah Eiger
> > To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 6:24 PM
> > Subject: [ActiveDir] Offline Files Question
> >
> > Hi -
> >
> > Configuraiton: All users have their My Documents redirected
> to network
> > shares. All XP (and most 2000) users have My Documents set
> to synchronize
> > Offline Files. All are set to synchronize at log on and log off.
> >
> > Many users have complained that when they log off, they see
> not only their
> > files synchronize but also the files of other users who
> have user profiles
> > on that machine. Often they will get permissions errors on the other
> > users' files since the home directories are secured as per
> MSKB 274443.
> > This is a hassle because it stalls at the end of the sync
> (waiting to have
> > someone acknowledge the error) and because it takes so long.
> >
> > Is this behaviour as expected? Why is it synchronizing
> other users' files?
> > Is there a way to prevent this?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > -- nme
> >
> > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
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