| Author | Messages | |
Gil
Posts:315
 | | 03/09/2006 10:23 AM |
| Ok, so maybe its only two... :)
-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of deji@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 3:17 PM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?
Three? Don't tell me you are including yourself :)
Sincerely,
Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCT
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
www.readymaids.com - we know IT
www.akomolafe.com
Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about
Yesterday? -anon
________________________________
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Gil Kirkpatrick
Sent: Thu 3/9/2006 2:12 PM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?
Actually, I think all three of Deji's friends are on this list anyway... :)
-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Grillenmeier, Guido
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 3:09 PM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?
come on Deji - forget whoever you've had in your contact list until now and
just get some new friends :-)
-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of deji@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Donnerstag, 9. März 2006 23:17
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?
Wouldn't that be just wonderful? Only if the admin were human :)
Sincerely,
Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCT
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
www.readymaids.com - we know IT
www.akomolafe.com
Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about
Yesterday? -anon
________________________________
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Gil Kirkpatrick
Sent: Thu 3/9/2006 1:05 PM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?
Can you get the server admin to pull a tape? You could do the restore
yourself in a VM environment.
-g
-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of deji@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 1:46 PM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?
I just f-fingered a synch between my PDA and Outlook. Short story, all my
contacts (painfully built over several years) just took a road-trip to
neverland on a one-way ticket.
Local backup? I was meaning to do it tomorrow. Really ;)
Server backup restore? Yeah..... I have a greater chance of being the next
King of than getting my corporate server admin
to help me here. Just won't happen.
So, am I really SOL?
Sincerely,
Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCT
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
www.readymaids.com - we know IT
www.akomolafe.com
Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about
Yesterday? -anon
List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx
List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx
List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx
List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx
List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx
List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx
List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx
List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ | | | |
| listmail
Posts:824
| | 03/09/2006 10:50 AM |
| A perfect example of the difference between big server world and SBS-land.
In big server world the tendency is to try and turn everything off that
doesn't absolutely have to be on where I think the tendency in SBS-land is
to have everything on, heck the DC is even running Exchange, it can't get
much worse than that...
Seriously though, most companies have found that many "cool" Microsoft
technologies rarely scale well to large environments. All of the little
broadcasts and such that are fine on a small network with 15 PCs are ok but
once you get into segments with hundreds of machines on networks with
hundreds of thousands of machines things can get ugly.
The less you have turned on, the less you have to worry about breaking and
then trying to figure out how to fix. Big companies have enough other issues
to deal with like how to change the email addresses of some 10,000 users who
are now in a new division that needs a new name but is still in the main
email system, etc.
In general new "cool" things are adopted much more slowly if ever in large
environments unless those things were initially scaled to enterprise sizes
in design and are intended to make the enterprise more liveable in a way
that the admins and management feel it needs to be more liveable.
Unfortunately, most of the MS stuff doesn't qualify, usually on the first
points.
Active Directory things, now those are often cool and needed, but not say
link tracking which worked great in mom and pop areas but devastated some
large companies until they knew they could delete all of that useless crap.
Microsoft has always had and seems to still have serious issues in testing
several things
1. Scaled deployments
2. Reduced permission sets
3. Disjoint namespace or other unusual deployments that are not the result
of clicking ok all of the time
4. Generic group selection (for instance LCS requires Global Groups... What
century is this? Boneheads)
5. Multidomain forests
6. Multiforest deployments
Basically if you do not have an environment that you built with point and
click and hitting OK several times then you need to test test test before
you implement most MS anything. Even if you do, I still think you should
test test test before you implement anything. But since you are probably
small too and the idea of a test lab makes you laugh uncontrollably because
you could barely get production hardware, I understand.
--
O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition -
http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm
-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA
aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 4:23 PM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?
If this is a 2k3 environment and that admin doesn't have VSS agents on the
workstations so that you can restore your own deleted items...then shame on
that admin.
I have an entire drive snapping snapshots every hour on the hour (yes, every
hour on the hour) for data, and mailbox retention is 30 days.
deji@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>Wouldn't that be just wonderful? Only if the admin were human :)
>
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCT
>Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
>www.readymaids.com - we know IT
>www.akomolafe.com
>Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about
>Yesterday? -anon
>
>________________________________
>
>From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Gil Kirkpatrick
>Sent: Thu 3/9/2006 1:05 PM
>To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?
>
>
>
>Can you get the server admin to pull a tape? You could do the restore
>yourself in a VM environment.
>
>-g
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>deji@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 1:46 PM
>To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?
>
>I just f-fingered a synch between my PDA and Outlook. Short story, all
>my contacts (painfully built over several years) just took a road-trip
>to neverland on a one-way ticket.
>
>Local backup? I was meaning to do it tomorrow. Really ;)
>
>Server backup restore? Yeah..... I have a greater chance of being the
>next King of than getting my corporate
>server admin to help me here. Just won't happen.
>
>So, am I really SOL?
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCT
>Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
>www.readymaids.com - we know IT
>www.akomolafe.com
>Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about
>Yesterday? -anon
>List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
>List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx
>List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
>List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
>List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx
>List archive:
>http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
>
>
>List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
>List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx
>List archive:
>http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
>
>
>
--
Letting your vendors set your risk analysis these days?
http://www.threatcode.com
List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx
List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx
List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ | | | |
|
|