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jasalandra@xxxx.yyy

09/14/2005 5:11 AM  
Since I did not get any responses, I thought I might repost this message

If I am using a DFS share that has copies of that share between child
domains am I not able to use Domain Local Groups in conjunction with
Global and Universal groups to grant permissions?

I noticed that I cannot choose Domain Local groups from the list.

Here is what I am trying to do

DFSshare

Servers participating in share are:

serverA.parent
ServerB.child1.parent
ServerC.child2.parent
ServerD.child3.parent

Users in Parent, Child1, Child2 and Child3 all need to be able to access
and potentially edit files. How would you recommend that I setup the
permissions?

I was thinking

Parent

DFS Share Workgroup Global - Member of DFS Share Workgroup Universal in
Parent
DFS Share Workgroup Universal - Granted rights to files and folders

Child 1

DFS Share Workgroup Global - Member of DFS Share Workgroup Universal in
Parent

Child 2

DFS Share Workgroup Global - Member of DFS Share Workgroup Universal in
Parent

Child 3

DFS Share Workgroup Global - Member of DFS Share Workgroup Universal in
Parent
I could use this same methodology to grant permissions to different
kinds of users and folders as needed. What do you think
Justin A. Salandra
MCSE Windows 2000 & 2003
Network and Technology Services Manager
Catholic Healthcare System
646.505.3681 - office
917.455.0110 - cell
jasalandra@xxxxxxxxxxx
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09/15/2005 8:45 AM  
I see you've still not received a reply...

yep - the described solution should work fine. I assume you want to use
nested groups to grant admins from different domains to add users from
their domain. Otherwise you could also use a single UG to reach your
goal and manage this group centrally.

The reason you can't use DLGs is quite simple: their scope is _local_ to
the domain they're hosted in. While you can actually use them to grant
rights to the FS (and they'll also be replicated), they are not valid on
any of the DFS link-targets outside of the originating domain.

Compare this with permissions on AD objects in a multi-domain forest
using local groups => they also don't work on GCs in other domains...
(there was a recent discussion about this on this list)

/Guido

-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Salandra,
Justin A.
Sent: Mittwoch, 14. September 2005 19:01
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ActiveDir] REPOST DFS Permissions

Since I did not get any responses, I thought I might repost this message

If I am using a DFS share that has copies of that share between child
domains am I not able to use Domain Local Groups in conjunction with
Global and Universal groups to grant permissions?

I noticed that I cannot choose Domain Local groups from the list.

Here is what I am trying to do

DFSshare

Servers participating in share are:

serverA.parent
ServerB.child1.parent
ServerC.child2.parent
ServerD.child3.parent

Users in Parent, Child1, Child2 and Child3 all need to be able to access
and potentially edit files. How would you recommend that I setup the
permissions?

I was thinking

Parent

DFS Share Workgroup Global - Member of DFS Share Workgroup Universal in
Parent
DFS Share Workgroup Universal - Granted rights to files and folders

Child 1

DFS Share Workgroup Global - Member of DFS Share Workgroup Universal in
Parent

Child 2

DFS Share Workgroup Global - Member of DFS Share Workgroup Universal in
Parent

Child 3

DFS Share Workgroup Global - Member of DFS Share Workgroup Universal in
Parent
I could use this same methodology to grant permissions to different
kinds of users and folders as needed. What do you think
Justin A. Salandra
MCSE Windows 2000 & 2003
Network and Technology Services Manager
Catholic Healthcare System
646.505.3681 - office
917.455.0110 - cell
jasalandra@xxxxxxxxxxx
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jasalandra@xxxx.yyy

09/16/2005 2:55 AM  
Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Grillenmeier,
Guido
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 4:15 PM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] REPOST DFS Permissions

I see you've still not received a reply...

yep - the described solution should work fine. I assume you want to use
nested groups to grant admins from different domains to add users from
their domain. Otherwise you could also use a single UG to reach your
goal and manage this group centrally.

The reason you can't use DLGs is quite simple: their scope is _local_ to
the domain they're hosted in. While you can actually use them to grant
rights to the FS (and they'll also be replicated), they are not valid on
any of the DFS link-targets outside of the originating domain.

Compare this with permissions on AD objects in a multi-domain forest
using local groups => they also don't work on GCs in other domains...
(there was a recent discussion about this on this list)

/Guido

-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Salandra,
Justin A.
Sent: Mittwoch, 14. September 2005 19:01
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ActiveDir] REPOST DFS Permissions

Since I did not get any responses, I thought I might repost this message

If I am using a DFS share that has copies of that share between child
domains am I not able to use Domain Local Groups in conjunction with
Global and Universal groups to grant permissions?

I noticed that I cannot choose Domain Local groups from the list.

Here is what I am trying to do

DFSshare

Servers participating in share are:

serverA.parent
ServerB.child1.parent
ServerC.child2.parent
ServerD.child3.parent

Users in Parent, Child1, Child2 and Child3 all need to be able to access
and potentially edit files. How would you recommend that I setup the
permissions?

I was thinking

Parent

DFS Share Workgroup Global - Member of DFS Share Workgroup Universal in
Parent
DFS Share Workgroup Universal - Granted rights to files and folders

Child 1

DFS Share Workgroup Global - Member of DFS Share Workgroup Universal in
Parent

Child 2

DFS Share Workgroup Global - Member of DFS Share Workgroup Universal in
Parent

Child 3

DFS Share Workgroup Global - Member of DFS Share Workgroup Universal in
Parent
I could use this same methodology to grant permissions to different
kinds of users and folders as needed. What do you think
Justin A. Salandra
MCSE Windows 2000 & 2003
Network and Technology Services Manager
Catholic Healthcare System
646.505.3681 - office
917.455.0110 - cell
jasalandra@xxxxxxxxxxx
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