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09/08/2008 4:41 PM  
RODCs can be GCs so no delta to the recommendation with this scenario.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
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From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Tony Gordon
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 1:12 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] When does it become bad practice.... ALL DCs are GCs


How does introducing RODC into the mix changes the landscape? Since RODC cannot be a GC, early suggestions were to dedicate a WDC as an non-GC DC and place IM there. Is it still the case?

Thank you, Tony.

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ITS Infrastructure Engineering
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"Dmitri Gavrilov" <dmitrig@microsoft.com>

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"ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org" <ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org>

Date:

08/31/2008 02:12 AM

Subject:

RE: [ActiveDir] When does it become bad practice.... ALL DCs are GCs


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FWIW, after some (not at all heated) discussions, we made GC the default option in w2k8 dcpromo. So, we think that should work for most people.

Downsides: not many. Besides increased replication traffic (as noted below), one other observation is that infrastructure master has no place when everybody is a GC (IM requires a non-GC machine to do its job). But that's ok, because it does not need to do anything when everybody is a GC :).

Another observation: while replication traffic increases when all DCs are GCs, authentication traffic decreases, because all group membership evaluations are done locally.

Dmitri

From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Brian Desmond
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 3:52 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] When does it become bad practice.... ALL DCs are GCs

Usually it's easier to just make them all GCs. The problem comes in when you have really slow WAN links that just can't support the replication. By really slow I mean like measured in multiples of 64K and not a very big multiple.

Why have you got 4 domains for an environment that small?

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
brian@briandesmond.com

c - 312.731.3132

From: ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Rand Salazar
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:00 AM
To: Active Dir
Subject: [ActiveDir] When does it become bad practice.... ALL DCs are GCs

In the past when there were 3-5 DCs, with 2 domains spread over 2 sites, we threw caution in the wind and made all DCs GCs.... but now as we grow, 20-25+ DCs with 4 domains spread over 10 sites, can we continue the same practice?

At what point does making all domain controllers global catalogs become a bad thing. I've read all sorts of advice where this is good and bad, and where the IM role should not be a GC unless all of them are. All that has left me confused. Thus, I am curious to know.. what does the ActiveDir community think?

Thanks in advance.





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