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rezuma
Posts:136
 | | 07/08/2009 6:34 PM |
| Hi,
I have a windows 2k3 sp2 R2 server with a 2 hardware RAIDs, RAID 1 for
the OS (2 partitions 100g for OS 900g unallocated space), and RAID 5 for
data (a 2.7Tb partition).
Disk 0 = 100g + 900g unallocated space
Disk 1= 2.7 Tb
Is it possible to create a volume that spans the disks and uses the 900
g from disk 0? Is my only option making the disks dynamic or not even
that?
Ramon
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| bdesmond
Posts:813
| | 07/08/2009 6:36 PM |
| Presumably you'd have to do some funny dynamic disk spanning.
Thanks,
Brian Desmond
brian@briandesmond.com
c - 312.731.3132
From: activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Ramon Linan
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:34 PM
To: activedir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] extending a volume from across hardware RAIDs
Hi,
I have a windows 2k3 sp2 R2 server with a 2 hardware RAIDs, RAID 1 for the OS (2 partitions 100g for OS 900g unallocated space), and RAID 5 for data (a 2.7Tb partition).
Disk 0 = 100g + 900g unallocated space
Disk 1= 2.7 Tb
Is it possible to create a volume that spans the disks and uses the 900 g from disk 0? Is my only option making the disks dynamic or not even that?
Ramon
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| TG
Posts:253
| | 07/08/2009 7:14 PM |
| I vaguely recall some limitations on converting system partitions from one
type to another. I could be wrong on that though.
Why not just resize the partition?
Thank you, Tony.
Tony Gordon
Windows 2003 & 2000 MCSE, Windows 2003 MCSA, PMP
ITS Infrastructure Engineering
Tel 847.295.5000 x37892 | Fax 847.883.7892
tony dot gordon at hewitt dot tld | www.hewitt.com
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From:
"Brian Desmond" <brian@briandesmond.com>
To:
"activedir@mail.activedir.org" <activedir@mail.activedir.org>
Date:
07/08/2009 12:34 PM
Subject:
RE: [ActiveDir] extending a volume from across hardware RAIDs
Sent by:
activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org
Presumably you?d have to do some funny dynamic disk spanning.
Thanks,
Brian Desmond
brian@briandesmond.com
c - 312.731.3132
From: activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org [
mailto:activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Ramon Linan
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:34 PM
To: activedir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] extending a volume from across hardware RAIDs
Hi,
I have a windows 2k3 sp2 R2 server with a 2 hardware RAIDs, RAID 1 for the
OS (2 partitions 100g for OS 900g unallocated space), and RAID 5 for data
(a 2.7Tb partition).
Disk 0 = 100g + 900g unallocated space
Disk 1= 2.7 Tb
Is it possible to create a volume that spans the disks and uses the 900 g
from disk 0? Is my only option making the disks dynamic or not even that?
Ramon
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| CrawfordS
Posts:101
| | 07/08/2009 7:37 PM |
| Yeah, making the disks dynamic is the only way you can span a single
partition across multiple drives.
It's kinda kludgy, but if you wanted, you could format the 900 GB
partition and instead of assigning a drive letter to it, you could mount
it as a folder on the 2.7 TB drive. That would basically have the effect
of giving you the 2.6TB drive, although 900 GB would need to be in the
particular folder. I don't know if it gains you anything though besides
a cleaner logical view.
From: activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Ramon Linan
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:34 PM
To: activedir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] extending a volume from across hardware RAIDs
Hi,
I have a windows 2k3 sp2 R2 server with a 2 hardware RAIDs, RAID 1 for
the OS (2 partitions 100g for OS 900g unallocated space), and RAID 5 for
data (a 2.7Tb partition).
Disk 0 = 100g + 900g unallocated space
Disk 1= 2.7 Tb
Is it possible to create a volume that spans the disks and uses the 900
g from disk 0? Is my only option making the disks dynamic or not even
that?
Ramon
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| SaucyWrong
Posts:54
| | 07/08/2009 9:19 PM |
| IIRC, you can convert basic partitions (including the system partition) to
dynamic volumes, but you cannot convert them back to basic without
formatting them.
So this is a one way change--if you later decide it was a bad idea, you have
to BMR the server.
Matt
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Crawford, Scott <CrawfordS@evangel.edu>wrote:
> Yeah, making the disks dynamic is the only way you can span a single
> partition across multiple drives.
>
>
>
> It’s kinda kludgy, but if you wanted, you could format the 900 GB partition
> and instead of assigning a drive letter to it, you could mount it as a
> folder on the 2.7 TB drive. That would basically have the effect of giving
> you the 2.6TB drive, although 900 GB would need to be in the particular
> folder. I don’t know if it gains you anything though besides a cleaner
> logical view.
>
>
>
> *From:* activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:
> activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org] *On Behalf Of *Ramon Linan
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:34 PM
> *To:* activedir@mail.activedir.org
> *Subject:* [ActiveDir] extending a volume from across hardware RAIDs
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I have a windows 2k3 sp2 R2 server with a 2 hardware RAIDs, RAID 1 for the
> OS (2 partitions 100g for OS 900g unallocated space), and RAID 5 for data (a
> 2.7Tb partition).
>
>
>
> Disk 0 = 100g + 900g unallocated space
>
> Disk 1= 2.7 Tb
>
>
>
> Is it possible to create a volume that spans the disks and uses the 900 g
> from disk 0? Is my only option making the disks dynamic or not even that?
>
>
>
> Ramon
>
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| gabriel/tfi
Posts:376
| | 07/09/2009 12:46 AM |
| Honestly I dont recall I ever resized a _system_ partition on a server
and
I am not even 100% sure its supported in Win2003.
Ive used several times DISKPART EXTEND but on _non-system_ volumes. NOTE:
I suggest DISKPART for resizing rather than DISK MANAGER so that you wont
see the resized volume as spanning to multiple partitions in the DISK
MANAGER GUI.
It might be useful giving a look here
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/325590.
If its just a file server you may also consider rebuilding vs resizing.
Gabriele.
From: activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Ramon Linan
Sent: mercoledì 8 luglio 2009 19.34
To: activedir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] extending a volume from across hardware RAIDs
Hi,
I have a windows 2k3 sp2 R2 server with a 2 hardware RAIDs, RAID 1 for the
OS (2 partitions 100g for OS 900g unallocated space), and RAID 5 for data (a
2.7Tb partition).
Disk 0 = 100g + 900g unallocated space
Disk 1= 2.7 Tb
Is it possible to create a volume that spans the disks and uses the 900 g
from disk 0? Is my only option making the disks dynamic or not even that?
Ramon
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| CrawfordS
Posts:101
| | 07/09/2009 3:40 AM |
| I believe the OP is wanting to create 1 partition using the 2.7TB from disk 1 and 900GB from disk 0. Resizing the partition isn't applicable in this case since we're talking about two different disks.
However, you are correct that resizing the system partition is not supported on W2K3. You can however, boot to an alternate OS for example, by putting the drive in another system, and then use diskpart to extend the now non-system partition. Once the drive is placed back in the original system, it will be the new size.
From: activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Gabriele Scolaro
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 6:44 PM
To: activedir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] extending a volume from across hardware RAIDs
Honestly I don't recall I ever resized a _system_ partition on a server... and I am not even 100% sure it's supported in Win2003.
I've used several times DISKPART - EXTEND but on _non-system_ volumes. NOTE: I suggest DISKPART for resizing rather than DISK MANAGER so that you won't see the resized volume as "spanning" to multiple partitions in the DISK MANAGER GUI.
It might be useful giving a look here http://support.microsoft.com/kb/325590.
If it's just a file server you may also consider rebuilding vs resizing.
Gabriele.
From: activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Ramon Linan
Sent: mercoledì 8 luglio 2009 19.34
To: activedir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] extending a volume from across hardware RAIDs
Hi,
I have a windows 2k3 sp2 R2 server with a 2 hardware RAIDs, RAID 1 for the OS (2 partitions 100g for OS 900g unallocated space), and RAID 5 for data (a 2.7Tb partition).
Disk 0 = 100g + 900g unallocated space
Disk 1= 2.7 Tb
Is it possible to create a volume that spans the disks and uses the 900 g from disk 0? Is my only option making the disks dynamic or not even that?
Ramon
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| pbbergs
Posts:164
| | 07/09/2009 1:51 PM |
| Just tell them it can't be done and buy new disk space. Disk is so cheap you should never span a disk in this way, if either disk goes you lose everything.
RAID (redundant array of INEXPENSIVE disks) three cheap drives and protect this OP from his bad ideas.
Thanks
Paul
From: activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Crawford, Scott
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:39 PM
To: activedir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] extending a volume from across hardware RAIDs
I believe the OP is wanting to create 1 partition using the 2.7TB from disk 1 and 900GB from disk 0. Resizing the partition isn't applicable in this case since we're talking about two different disks.
However, you are correct that resizing the system partition is not supported on W2K3. You can however, boot to an alternate OS for example, by putting the drive in another system, and then use diskpart to extend the now non-system partition. Once the drive is placed back in the original system, it will be the new size.
From: activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Gabriele Scolaro
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 6:44 PM
To: activedir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] extending a volume from across hardware RAIDs
Honestly I don't recall I ever resized a _system_ partition on a server... and I am not even 100% sure it's supported in Win2003.
I've used several times DISKPART - EXTEND but on _non-system_ volumes. NOTE: I suggest DISKPART for resizing rather than DISK MANAGER so that you won't see the resized volume as "spanning" to multiple partitions in the DISK MANAGER GUI.
It might be useful giving a look here http://support.microsoft.com/kb/325590.
If it's just a file server you may also consider rebuilding vs resizing.
Gabriele.
From: activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Ramon Linan
Sent: mercoledì 8 luglio 2009 19.34
To: activedir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] extending a volume from across hardware RAIDs
Hi,
I have a windows 2k3 sp2 R2 server with a 2 hardware RAIDs, RAID 1 for the OS (2 partitions 100g for OS 900g unallocated space), and RAID 5 for data (a 2.7Tb partition).
Disk 0 = 100g + 900g unallocated space
Disk 1= 2.7 Tb
Is it possible to create a volume that spans the disks and uses the 900 g from disk 0? Is my only option making the disks dynamic or not even that?
Ramon
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| TG
Posts:253
| | 07/09/2009 2:24 PM |
| After one of the later notes in this thread prompted me to read the OP
note more carefully, I agree that re-sizing does not apply to the need of
the OP.
As far as re-sizing of any partition (including system) I have done
multiple times and do not recall it ever causing an issue. Usually with
the help of third party tools (partitionmagic, acronis, etc...). Granted
on the risk scale it does slide a bit to the right, so back up before
attempting. 
Thank you, Tony.
Tony Gordon
Windows 2003 & 2000 MCSE, Windows 2003 MCSA, PMP
ITS Infrastructure Engineering
Hewitt Associates | 100 Half Day Road | Lincolnshire, IL 60069 | USA
Tel 847.295.5000 x37892 | Fax 847.883.7892
tony dot gordon at hewitt dot tld | www.hewitt.com
P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.
From:
"Gabriele Scolaro" <gabro@gabro.net>
To:
activedir@mail.activedir.org
Date:
07/08/2009 06:44 PM
Subject:
RE: [ActiveDir] extending a volume from across hardware RAIDs
Sent by:
activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org
Honestly I don?t recall I ever resized a _system_ partition on a server?
and I am not even 100% sure it?s supported in Win2003.
I?ve used several times DISKPART ? EXTEND but on _non-system_ volumes.
NOTE: I suggest DISKPART for resizing rather than DISK MANAGER so that you
won?t see the resized volume as ?spanning? to multiple partitions in the
DISK MANAGER GUI.
It might be useful giving a look here
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/325590.
If it?s just a file server you may also consider rebuilding vs resizing.
Gabriele.
From: activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org [
mailto:activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Ramon Linan
Sent: mercoledì 8 luglio 2009 19.34
To: activedir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] extending a volume from across hardware RAIDs
Hi,
I have a windows 2k3 sp2 R2 server with a 2 hardware RAIDs, RAID 1 for the
OS (2 partitions 100g for OS 900g unallocated space), and RAID 5 for data
(a 2.7Tb partition).
Disk 0 = 100g + 900g unallocated space
Disk 1= 2.7 Tb
Is it possible to create a volume that spans the disks and uses the 900 g
from disk 0? Is my only option making the disks dynamic or not even that?
Ramon
The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by e-mail.
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| gabriel/tfi
Posts:376
| | 07/09/2009 3:27 PM |
| LOL! I should read posts more carefully as well! J Gabriele.
From: activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org
[mailto:activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Tony Gordon
Sent: giovedì 9 luglio 2009 15.21
To: activedir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] extending a volume from across hardware RAIDs
After one of the later notes in this thread prompted me to read the OP note
more carefully, I agree that re-sizing does not apply to the need of the OP.
As far as re-sizing of any partition (including system) I have done multiple
times and do not recall it ever causing an issue. Usually with the help of
third party tools (partitionmagic, acronis, etc...). Granted on the risk
scale it does slide a bit to the right, so back up before attempting.
Thank you, Tony.
Tony Gordon
Windows 2003 & 2000 MCSE, Windows 2003 MCSA, PMP
ITS Infrastructure Engineering
Hewitt Associates | 100 Half Day Road | Lincolnshire, IL 60069 | USA
Tel 847.295.5000 x37892 | Fax 847.883.7892
tony dot gordon at hewitt dot tld | www.hewitt.com
P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.
From:
"Gabriele Scolaro" <gabro@gabro.net>
To:
activedir@mail.activedir.org
Date:
07/08/2009 06:44 PM
Subject:
RE: [ActiveDir] extending a volume from across hardware RAIDs
Sent by:
activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org
_____
Honestly I dont recall I ever resized a _system_ partition on a server
and
I am not even 100% sure its supported in Win2003.
Ive used several times DISKPART EXTEND but on _non-system_ volumes. NOTE:
I suggest DISKPART for resizing rather than DISK MANAGER so that you wont
see the resized volume as spanning to multiple partitions in the DISK
MANAGER GUI.
It might be useful giving a look here
<http://support.microsoft.com/kb/325590>
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/325590.
If its just a file server you may also consider rebuilding vs resizing.
Gabriele.
From: activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org [
<mailto:activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org>
mailto:activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Ramon Linan
Sent: mercoledì 8 luglio 2009 19.34
To: activedir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] extending a volume from across hardware RAIDs
Hi,
I have a windows 2k3 sp2 R2 server with a 2 hardware RAIDs, RAID 1 for the
OS (2 partitions 100g for OS 900g unallocated space), and RAID 5 for data (a
2.7Tb partition).
Disk 0 = 100g + 900g unallocated space
Disk 1= 2.7 Tb
Is it possible to create a volume that spans the disks and uses the 900 g
from disk 0? Is my only option making the disks dynamic or not even that?
Ramon
_____
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