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Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] ADMT: update changes to group membership during migration
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RickSheikhUser is Offline

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05/27/2010 6:22 PM  
I think it depends on the migration schedule. If your servers (or other
resources with ACLs) are getting migrated right after all your users and
groups have migrated (with SID), then perhaps its not necessary to continue
to modify the group memberships in the source domain i.e Access to the
legacy resources where the ACEs were for explicit accounts, the accounts SID
come into play, access to the resources via a group membership the Groups
SID comes into the pictures.

During the computer migrations, as part of the process, the Security
Translation translates all ACLs on the resources to the Groups that will now
have been migrated to the Target domain and have the reference in the ADMT'S
DB.

Having said that, you will run into the situation you sighted should there
be a long gap between your users/groups migration and the servers
migrations. For sync process the "include files" come pretty handy. You
still need to maintain the up-to-dateness during the migration however.

Others experiences may vary, I have found the best results in pacing
migrations as such when the servers are not living in the source domain for
far too long after all other resources have been migrated to the target
domain. Something which is always not very simple.

Other issues arise when the new AD model is that of multi-domain. If your
servers (due to various reasons) continue to live in the source domain
whereas the users from your new forest (multiple child domains) needing
access to the resource in the source domain, and due to the group nesting
restriction you end up creating new Domain Local groups in the source domain
so that you can take the GGs from the new domains and nest to provision
access. Now you end up with new groups in the source domain which you have
to play catch up on - If you don't the access will be broken when the
servers do get migrated as the Security Translation has no referential
groups in target domain to translate it to. One thing you could do in that
instance is sweep your old domain for all groups that have been create since
a specific date and migrate them before you migrate the servers. Messy.

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Thomas Vuylsteke <
Thomas.Vuylsteke@realdolmen.com> wrote:

> I’m doing some tests with the migration of users/groups between two
> forests. From the ADMT guide I read that it is advised to (if necessary)
> always perform group membership changes in the source forest and re-run
> group synchronization now and then. This way changes can be merged to the
> target forest.
>
>
>
> Am I correct that this will only synchronize changes such as adding object
> X to group Y? And that changes such as remove object X from group Y are not
> synchronized. So if a user is removed from a group, this change will *not*be performed in the target forest.
>
>
>
> Is my understanding correct? I’m not really thinking this is a problem. I
> just want to have a clear understanding of the rules for administering group
> memberships in the transition phase.
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Thomas
>
>
>

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